She actually cried.

[ourbluenation]

A young mom interviewed on the teevee was actually weeping as she expressed her opposition to her child having to watch the president in school. She wasn't screaming or bawling, she was genuinely sad and concerned not about the message the president will be sending, to stay in school and work hard, but by something else.

It was creepy.

Clearly, she wasn't crying because someone is telling her kid to work hard. And if it was just a matter of politics she would be more angry than tearful.

She is freaking out because with every fiber of he being she believes he doesn't deserve to be in the position, even though, unlike his predecessor he won the position outright. There is no question he was legitimately the people's choice, which probably rocks her world even more. No doubt she can be angry about a lot of things because of her politics, but exposing her kid to him in such a direct way crosses some kind of emotional line for her to the point that it fills her with anxiety and causes her to actually weep.

Now I couldn't stand Bush and I thought that since he was not democratically selected his entire presidency was tainted. If he wanted to use his position to talk to my kid about working hard in school I would have found it more ironic than anything else since he himself didn't have to work hard at all in school and ended up being the leader of the free world. I might have been angry about it and maybe even protested. But weepy? I don't think so.

Come on.

There's something deeper going on with this. Her tears were some kind of a gut check. She and people like her are being irrationally hysterical and we all know why.

So where does that leave us? I for one take comfort in the fact that she and her peers are a slim and ever shrinking minority. So let the die hards swirl around in their own merde...they'll rot from the inside out and die off.

It's already happening.

But for those who might someday see the light and truly, truly believe that all people are created equal, there will always be room at my table for you. We might never agree on a blessed thing and end up in the mother of all food fights, but at least we can agree on that one thing.

That would be huge.

In the meantime, keep on keeping on Mr. Obama, Mr. President.

[WCGreen]

1. Well Stated!!!!

[graywarrior]

2. Mr gray told me a story about being in the south when he was in the Navy and

he said he met a family who had been preparing their home against attacks by "negroes". Apparently they were convinced that "negroes" were coming to kill them. They were hysterical over it. This was in the 60's. Not much has changed.

[movonne]

20. This stuff is pushed from generation to generation...her parents are

most likely very prejudice...this is mostly in the south but there still is a lot of it in every state and city...and especially in the older generation..

[Warpy]

32. I'm absolutely appalled by the number of old boomers

who are screeching at the health insurance reform meetings. We were that first generation who were supposedly well educated all the way through high school, a luxury our parents didn't have during the Depression. We were supposed to have all we needed to be a well informed voting public.

What the hell happened to those poor fools? Are they just the bone lazy jerks who have always wanted opinions handed to them because it was too much trouble to read once they'd gotten out of school?

We've taken the brunt of all the economic shenanigans since liberals went out of power in 1969 and most of us don't have a retirement to look forward to, so there is ample reason to be angry.

But health insurance reform? You'd think that would be one of our main points of solidarity since we're all of an age to be victimized by for profit insurance and Medicare won't kick in for some years.

I just don't get those people, not at all.

[DonCoquixote]

114. Thank you warpy

I was preparing a Gen X screed on how many of these people at town hall meetings were boomers, people who enjoyed, more than most americans, the fruit of Democratic work. You reminded me that there are some boomers who do get it, so I dod not do a ted rall esque "all boomers suck" piece.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

119. It's really not about that. It's about race. These folks never voted for Obama, anyway.

And when the media tells us that it is because the older generation doesn't adapt well to change, what they really mean is that the negro, Barack Obama, was fine if he'd stayed in his place. But running for the presidency? How dare he!!!

Again, this is about race, plain and simple. Nothing else.

The old folks should be ashamed of themselves. They are being taken care of by the younger generations with no guarantee that SS will be there for us when we're their age.

[rucognizant]

124. Hey.......

I'm a PRE-BOOMER....VERY different bacause unlike Boomers 1946 on......WE lived through WWII, rationing, total fear, air raisd drills lights out shades drawn.
VERY DIFFERENT THAN, Daddy got a GI college loan/mortgage! that left the Boomers better off with Daddy;'s ability to acrue funds, than our Gen. Yes many of them have TOTALLY misused it! Many HAVE NOT!
ALL OF MY FRIENDS: over 50, are progressive. We had a picnic on the beach yesterday that could have been a scene out of Mamma MIA!
All the while discussing the solutions to a very pressing local problem.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

173. This is what I don't understand. The boomers are most likely not to support Dems because

they don't like government. And yet, they get so many benefits: GI, SS, Medicare, etc. from the government. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense, so the only other remaining explanation for their behavior is race.

[GTurck]

135. Please don't...

lump us altogether. My husband is in his early 70's and I in my mid-60's and we voted for and campaigned for Barack Obama in Central Texas. Our county went pink in the election because we had so many retirees and minorities who voted for the President.
I mean military retirees mainly although we are not.
As in anything else there are those our age and in our area of every stripe-politically. Let the right wingers globally assign goodness or badness based on outer characteristics but here at DU look at the inside more.

[liberalmike27]

157. I don't think they are saying all are that way

I know my own mother and father were from Mississippi, in the North in the country, and they ended up working hard to not be bigoted. So not all folks that are old are racist, nor are all young people NOT racist. And yes, some hand it down, and do that damage to their own family, and our own country.

But I do agree, it's already gotten hard to be racist, and it is going to be harder. Now, as one of Obama's administration admitted in a moment of truth, racists have become cowards. They can no longer run out and yell about f-ing N*gg etc, and have to couch it with birther stuff, deather stuff. But the intensity of racism is there, as more than an undercurrent. Clearly, most of them are old, baby-boomer types, where the racism was once strong, and driven under that veil of secrecy.

And I hold hope not only in what the original author of the post said about generations of racists dying off, which is, and has been clearly happening. I hold hope also in the fact that many conservatives as George H. W. Bush even said once "I'm conservative, but I'm not crazy about it," now view theseI've been renting, and watching the Tudor's, a Showtime series about the nobility in sixteenth century England lately. It seems to me, we're getting closer and closer to resembling a modern-day version of this group of leaders in America. We're really no longer a democracy, but almost a moneyed monarchy.

The rich have the power to do almost anything to the poor, and just like back then, we've got pretty much a situation where you've got rabble running around, trying to grub up any little thing you can, and others who are vastly rich. If you want to get ahead, you have to kiss the kings, or the economic royalists' asses, and everyone seems to run around happy with the situation, and praising the queen and king.

They keep taking, and taking money, from the poorest, and then they hand out positions to people who kiss their asses just right. You've pretty much got to let the power holders do anything they want, and as we've seen lately, just like back then, if they want to screw your wife, they just do it, and they don't feel guilty, because after all, they are the chosen ones. The poor husbands don't mind, because letting the kings tap your wife is a way to get ahead, and gain advantage, as they may appoint you to something, or give you a parcel of land and a nice house.

It is really kind of sickening that we've gotten back to this point where republicans, and many democrats, just worship the rich so much, and hate the poor with equal aplomb. But it is just the result FDR feared when after radio became popular, and realizing that these broadcasters would be controlled by the richest Ruppert Murdoch types in the land, put into effect the fairness doctrine. IT was a simple law, requiring equaI've been renting, and watching the Tudor's, a Showtime series about the nobility in sixteenth century England lately. It seems to me, we're getting closer and closer to resembling a modern-day version of this group of leaders in America. We're really no longer a democracy, but almost a moneyed monarchy.

The rich have the power to do almost anything to the poor, and just like back then, we've got pretty much a situation where you've got rabble running around, trying to grub up any little thing you can, and others who are vastly rich. If you want to get ahead, you have to kiss the kings, or the economic royalists' asses, and everyone seems to run around happy with the situation, and praising the queen and king.

They keep taking, and taking money, from the poorest, and then they hand out positions to people who kiss their asses just right. You've pretty much got to let the power holders do anything they want, and as we've seen lately, just like back then, if they want to screw your wife, they just do it, and they don't feel guilty, because after all, they are the chosen ones. The poor husbands don't mind, because letting the kings tap your wife is a way to get ahead, and gain advantage, as they may appoint you to something, or give you a parcel of land and a nice house.

It is really kind of sickening that we've gotten back to this point where republicans, and many democrats, just worship the rich so much, and hate the poor with equal aplomb. But it is just the result FDR feared when after radio became popular, and realizing that these broadcasters would be controlled by the richest Ruppert Murdoch types in the land, put into effect the fairness doctrine. IT was a simple law, requiring equal time for both sides of the story. It was destroyed in 1986, or somewhere thereabouts, with democrats complicit, roughly when democrats tied themselves to the yoke of the same corporations, and started to plough along side republicans. It was, the beginning of our slide, down to the plutocracy, the oligarchy, we are now realizing, a situation where wealth has been so maldistributed to the top, that we've reached even greater differences than in the depression. And the media is, and has been, so one-sided, that they've got a whole crop of economic admirers, offering up their wives to the kings, in hopes of tapping advantage themselves.

It is the saddest thing that the people in America are so clueless, that they don't even understand that for years, no, decades now, they've been supporting, and heaping praise on the same people that have been economically, putting their heads on the chopping block, and bleeding them with their evil leeches. And like then, it has nearly left us in a figurative situation, where we are almost all rabble, wallowing around in the filthy streets trying to get our bit of bread, or joining in the next foreign campaign (war), because the crumbs are all that is left to most of us. Yes, you've knocked the foundation out from under America, good going. And with that foundation gone, it's all going to crash down around us.l time for both sides of the story. It was destroyed in 1986, or somewhere thereabouts, with democrats complicit, roughly when democrats tied themselves to the yoke of the same corporations, and started to plough along side republicans. It was, the beginning of our slide, down to the plutocracy, the oligarchy, we are now realizing, a situation where wealth has been so maldistributed to the top, that we've reached even greater differences than in the depression. And the media is, and has been, so one-sided, that they've got a whole crop of economic admirers, offering up their wives to the kings, in hopes of tapping advantage themselves.

So yea, dying off, and disassociation with people who are acting like cold, heartless, almost non-human people. Those are two huge factors going our way--though the media will never point those out, even MSNBC.

Not sure what happened here, I think I got a weird cut-n-paste accident combination from a post on another board. Anyhoo, it's all good enough.

[marew]

161. I agree!

I'm a boomer and a liberal and always have been. My boomer and preboomer friends support serious health care reform and ARE WILLING to pay higher taxes to do it. So please stop with the age discrimination already. Thanks.

[truedelphi]

163. My RW neighbor, very sick of George W, also voted for Barack

I think that de-segregation has helped a lot. The neighbor works with Hispanics so he is exposed to the fact that people with different skin tones are human beings and have same values as white people.

Something you cannot learn if you never encounter someone whose skin color is different.

[Chulanowa]

170. Well, you've gotta admit...

Most of the grade-A yutzes out there screaming at town halls and wailing about they chilluns being exposed to Barack Obama and his Kenyan Radiation are, in fact, "baby boomers" - with a handful of their parents as well.

Not all boomers are twits, but it kinda looks like all the twits are boomers, y'know?

[GTurck]

179. That beggars...

the assertion about "old people". We definitely are not boomers nor are we from the "Greatest Generation" but caught between. Old now ranges from 55-dead or almost dead. "Global" blaming is not a good strategy and smacks too much of the way the GOP orates and separates.
Would also like to point out that we never were rich, didn't grow up in Texas or any part of the South, and have always been liberal leaning. OH Yeah! NEVER voted for Reagan either. We once called ourselves Independents but lately that has meant sitting on the fence and not really accomplishing much.
We have serious problems in this country and on this planet and we need everyone who cares about them to participate. Even those who disagree can do so honestly and empathetically which is the real problem with the GOP since Nixon. They have become so disconnected with any reality the rest of us live in that they sound truly alien and insane.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

174. Of course I'm not. When I speak of that group, you understand that I am only referring to

those who are slitting their wrists over Obama.

You know what I mean. Not generalizing.

However, it is true that most seniors indeed DID NOT vote for Obama. You may not belong to that group but that's just a fact.

[wolfgangmo]

142. It's worst than that. They have even more to be ashamed of.

Not only will gen X, etc. be funding their retirements and health care with no guarentee that we will see dime number one out of the system we pay into, but they also benefited from the generation before them who set the system up with no expectation of being able to use it themselves.

The boomers (deluded ones) have, in essence, double dipped and they don't see that they have been the beneficiaries not once, but twice.

I want to be clear about this. Every boomer I know is in support of single payer and fixing the social safety net. They know they have had advantages and they want others to have them too. I think the divot heads are really an aberation and not the norm for that generation.

edited for clarity.

[Warpy]

145. Every generation has been told they'll pay into social security

and never see a dime out of it when it's their turn. My dad taught me that much, it's the same tired old lie they told when he was a lad in the 30s and they were fighting it tooth and nail.

Don't buy the lie. It won't fail unless you make it fail by voting in Republicans who do their best to underfund it and dismantle it by throwing part of your contribution..then all of it..into the stock market.

[Warpy]

144. We old boomers were often on the front lines

of the civil rights movement in the south. I was a kid in school who saved places for lunch counter sit down protesters. I was likely a confrontational pain in the ass who did more harm than good, but by golly, I was out there.

That's why it's amazing to me that so many didn't get the message.

[1Hippiechick]

160. All of our generation were not activists, they were afraid then, they are afraid now. n/t

[Warpy]

168. Some certainly were

They were identified by their Ban-Lon golf shirts and frequent attendance at YAF meetings in college.

I guess I just expected them to grow up some day. Silly me.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

175. Don't understand it, either. And again, I'm not referring to ALL seniors, but a good number of them

voted for McCain, not for Obama. Even when armed with information and the facts, they still refused to believe their own lying eyes! Therefore, the only remaining explanation for their behavior is race. We can ill afford to gloss over this issue, not when the president has received an unprecedented number of death threats.

[1Hippiechick]

159. The word 'death panel' scares them to death - scare-tactic propaganda n/t

[1Hippiechick]

158. scare-tactic propaganda works on older folks, i.e., 'death panels'. They are vulnerable b/c of

their age; and "don't want to be a burnden to their children", their world is closing in, and their focus becomes themselves, i.e., "What will happen to me?" rather than being concerned for all of us - becoming childlike and self-centered again....just my opinion.

[marew]

164. Gee, thanks for your opinion.

I thought DU was beyond discrimination but, boy, was I wrong. I'm a boomer, a retired social worker who chose my field because I didn't want to get rich but help people, try to get my very liberal voice out there, donate time and money to help others and have for years. Seems we old people aren't welcome here. You already "know" what all of us are like! How does narrow minded bigot sound to you?

[1Hippiechick]

176. "You already "know" what all of us are like!How does narrow minded bigot sound to you?"

Wow. What part of my post made you think you are not welcome on here? I will be 62 years old in November, and have been an activist all my life. All I was doing was offering my viewpoint to another poster who was disappointed in older boomers, and since I am in that category myself, I feel that I am entitled to offer an opinion. I listen to boomers and older people, and what I hear is their being afraid of the proposed health care changes - the term "death panel" and changes to Medicare are always part of that conversation.

And, you just did what is a total disappointment to me on here, regardless of one's age: you resorted to labeling and name-calling. Shame on you. Peace out. :hi:

[Ken Burch]

111. Rodgers and Hammerstein nailed it:

"You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught"

(From "South Pacific". Btw, the show's financial backers wanted to make them cut the song, but Rodgers, Hammerstein and James Michener,the author of the novel the show was based on, all stood their ground and refused to do so.)

[voc]

113. +1

[stlsaxman]

129. Her husband said in the video- "Politics begins in the family"... THAT is how hatred gets passed

from generations.

[PassingFair]

45. Have you seen "Bowling for Columbine"?

Moore concluded that a great deal of
American's attachment to their guns
stemmed from fear and racism of and
against blacks, because of guilt and
fear of retribution for slavery.

[graywarrior]

48. I forgot about that part

Makes so much sense especially now.

[AspenRose]

59. Hell, we heard as much when Obama was on the campaign trail

Little kids saying they were afraid Obama was going to enslave white people for revenge against slavery. :eyes:

[BrklynLiberal]

70. I do not believe that any of this racism/hate has one iota of guilt at its core.

It is based on the fear and ignorance of those people, and the totally conscienceless manipulation of them by the RW repukes.

They will take votes and power ANY way they can get them....ANY WAY!!!!

I think Moore was giving these haters way too much credit by assuming they have the ability to feel any guilt at all.

[defendandprotect]

99. Wow . . . I forgot that, too . .

The violent fearing the non-violent . . .

It takes intelligence to be non-violent --

[madinmaryland]

105. Try saying that in the Gungeon here.

We have those types on DU, also.

[Dan]

110. I suspect

that most of the slaves have got over it by now...

[Ken Burch]

112. And people on this very board, people who pretended to be liberals

argued that Barack Obama shouldn't be nominated because he got real about that. Shame on all of them. Everyone who said that forfeited any right to call themselves anti-racist.

[Joe Chi Minh]

138. I think there is a lot of truth in that. My mother and an Australian friend

went on a coach trip to Barcelona.

They visited a cave where some gypsies were dancing the flamenco for the tourists. Although my mother doesn't speak Spanish she was enchanted by the gypsy women, but said that some girls who'd been very brash and raucous the rest of the time, were as quiet as mice, and apparently afraid of the gypsy women.

[Joe Chi Minh]

139. I think there is a lot of truth in that. My mother and an Australian friend

went on a coach trip to Barcelona.

They visited a cave where some gypsies were dancing the flamenco for the tourists. Although my mother doesn't speak Spanish she was enchanted by the gypsy women, but said that some girls who'd been very brash and raucous the rest of the time, were as quiet as mice, and apparently afraid of the gypsy women.

[catzies]

50. You're right not much has changed. My brother in Atlanta told me that same thing LAST YEAR

"'They' are going to riot if Obama wins," he said. :puke:

[defendandprotect]

101. Many of these Southern states are turning blue . . . aren't they? Even Texas?

You know, I think it's when they feel like they're losing control --
like the "pro-life" nuts --

Also, I think a large part of the "Southern Strategy" was myth, in this sense . . .

That it was a cover for a lot of GOP stolen elections. Carter carried all but one
of the Confederate states!

Also, the large computers used by MSM and the individual computers for voting began
to come in during the mid-and-late-1960's -- coincidentally, about the time we were
passing The Voting Rights Act.

We watched in 2000 as the steal went down on Fox TV/John Ellis -- and all the way thru
the desperate effort to STOP the vote counting -- I think Bush was down to something
like 34 vote lead when they stopped the recount? Then, the fascist rally at Miami-Dade
Election HQs to stop the vote counting mandated by the Court . . .
violent, banging on windows and doors with no police interference!
And, finally on to the Supremes -- quite a noisy steal. Followed by 2004.
Even with the computers it's getting harder and harder for them to steal.

Look at Florida -- how in the hell do you convince especially all of the aged there that
a right-wing president who is going to knock out Medicare and Social Security would be
a good choice????

On the other hand, of course, what I've heard about Atlanta based on former Gov. Don
Siegelmann's experience . . . don't know. How much influence can the GOP possibly have there?

Thanks for the info --

[catzies]

102. My brother's in the dem-turned-repub camp, sorry to say. he'll be the first to say

he's still rebelling against our hippie parents.

As for me, I'm his Californian, "bunny-hugging" sister. :shrug:

[defendandprotect]

108. Ok . . . . a little clearer . . .

can only hope he's wrong!

[Techn0Girl]

87. Attacks by ....

When I was very little and Martin Luthor King was assassinated, my mother kept e home from school for the same reason. My family was small minded, bigoted and afraid and thank heaven I left them when I was 20. But that's how these people think . They are always afraid.

[Joe Chi Minh]

137. The same types Orson Welles got worked up about an alien invasion. Came out

with pitchforks. Beyond all help, remedial teaching, whatever.

[myrna minx]

146. That is a very good point.

It makes me wonder if the people who were so dramatically moved to hysteria were "holy roller" types from the 1930's - those who had their entire faith and life infrastructure swept away within a few minutes of the radio program.

[Joe Chi Minh]

152. Talking about one's entire faith and life infrastructure being swept away,

reminds me of the poor would-be bank robber of an Edinburgh bank, who, when he slipped a note to the teller, was told by the woman he'd have to go to the back of the queue, and wait his turn like everybody else!

Where do you go from there. The shock the man experienced must have been.... well.... traumatic. Pulling off a pretty major crime must be hazardous enough, but how could even a criminal mastermind allow for occasional female dottiness of such a surreal order!

[wolfgangmo]

140. Consider for a moment why they thought "negro's" would be coming for them.

It must be because they know, in their deepest recesses, that they deserve to have "negro's" come for them. They know, without a doubt, both consciously and subc-consciously, that they have been sub-human shits all their life and that they deserve to be hurt or killed for their lifelong behaviour.

I bet if your friend had scratched the dirt a bit in this families home, he would have dug up some white hoods.

Of course they were scared. They were guilty.

[dkf]

3. The Supreme Court irreparably damaged the American psyche when they so obviously

gave us an illegitimate President. Now every President will be suspect for the craziest of reasons.

Assholes.

[madeline_con]

8. No, this is racism, not a Supreme precedent.

Just my opinion.

[dkf]

17. The underlying cause is racism but the publicly stated one is illegitimacy.

And the idea of illegitimacy was created by the Supreme Court. If we hadn't been subjected to that for years with *, they wouldn't be using it on us. They took the lazy way out and threw our argument back at us using a crazy premise. Its the old GOP trick about combining half truths with flat out lies to manipulate their true believers.

[madeline_con]

25. I see what you mean. n/t

[Fire1]

62. Simply stated, "racism under the guise of illegitimacy." n/t

[defendandprotect]

100. No . . . they were refusing to call Clinton "president" . . .

they sent the GOP/NRA crazies out after him, for one group ---

Cripes, we even had someone fly a plane into the White House -- !!!

And -- less out in the open, they sabotaged Carter in every way possible!!

[pollo poco]

131. quite so- it's not just race

But, as discussed yesterday, defining it as a race thing it might make white people feel safer if they think its about race.

It's much more comprehensive. These people are not just haters of black people- They hate reality, and anyone who doesn't reinforce their fantasy world. You can get hated just because you're gay and not burning in hell. Hispanic and wealthy. A woman who doesn't raise her daughters to be servants of men. Or not christian- if you don't buy the bit about the talking snake you are a direct messenger from reality- and teabaggers will find you threatening.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

4. I'm actually enjoying watching these wanks. The depression and despair is positively delightful.

[madeline_con]

9. Black people scare them.

:rofl:

[windoe]

5. Not too long ago a woman like her wouldn't get the airtime.

There have always been nutjobs, we just have to get them off the stage. Our airwaves need to be used for better purposes, this country has real issues. I am really tired of kookoos getting so much validation. This woman needs therapy, not encouragement to get more crazy!!

[madeline_con]

11. Comic relief on the news can be fun.

I know our local central FL stations love to air on-the-scene reports with the most nasty toothless guy they can find, standing their in a wife beater, talking about his "concern for the neighborhood".

:rofl:

[windoe]

18. Yuh--the side show where they belong.

Context is everything.

[ejpoeta]

132. moyers had it right.... side show, circus.... barnum and bailey.... that is just about right.

[BrklynLiberal]

72. But it is scary to know that there are those out there who watch and shake their heads in agreement.

[Pirate Smile]

27. It feels like August broke some kind of basic societal rules of decorum people just follow based

on normal life - not fancy etiquette, just standards of normal interaction.

Now, it is perfectly fine and acceptable, just a sign of your passion and intensity, to stand up and shriek at people, especially an elected official, like a crazy person.

It is impressive for 5 or 10 people by shouting and acting out to disrupt a public event with hundreds or thousands of people.

This used to be seen as rude and evidence that a person was a lunatic but now it is a sign of ... a Republican resurgence. Renewed involvement as opposed to people being manipulated by lies, smears, fear-mongering and either blatant or underlying race or class issues. Hey it works, right, so why stop! Just turn it up another notch.

The coming campaigns are going to be a nightmare unless these RWNJ's get some type of backlash based on their behaviour.

Society feels shaky right now because of these whack-jobs.

[CLANG]

74. Society feels shaky right now because of these whack-jobs.

Yes, it does. Disturbingly so.:scared:

[defendandprotect]

109. And the fact that they're getting so much attention --

On the one hand, I like to see it out in the open --

On the other, seems obvious it's getting a push from an hysterical GOP calling out their thugs --

and giving them license to let loose --

After all, imagine if we began to have the power to do some real investigating!!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

44. yes, it's a $$ saving "journalism" ploy too...

saves the networks money and time, provides lots of filler...citizen-reporters emailing nooz to the local stations and "man on the street" interviews....
plus, the idiots they like to show us satisfy the freak-show urge

[Aragorn]

95. You're right!

I never thought of that - like the way reality shows came on strong during a writers' strike.

So we should call it "Reality News" - as opposed to real news.

I want to add one of my favorite points, having to do with eliminating ignorance as a cause of prejudice: Call it prejudice. There is only ONE race, people.

[Withywindle]

47. It's "balance."

We've all seen this: 100,000 people come out to march against the war, and the news gives equal or greater time to the 35 rednecks across the street yelling "USA!"

"Balance."

"Both sides of the story."

:puke:

[progressoid]

6. a slim and ever shrinking minority?

I'm gonna need some hard evidence to accept that. Maybe it just seems like there are so many because they are so loud and the media is complicit in echoing their rants. But I don't see them shrinking just yet.

Other than that, great post. :thumbsup:

[ourbluenation]

7. the election is part of the proof. the gop is becoming the party of southern whites.

republicans that is. many conservatives are turned off by these hysterics and turning independent. I'm out the door on my way to an event, but will bring further proof later.

[madeline_con]

15. As a southern white, I request that you recant your statement,

or at least revise it to be less generalized. Thank you. :)

[kelly1mm]

24. I know it is a long way off but if your statement is true would rupub gains

in 2010/2012 (which would follow historical patterns and IS being predicted) mean that conservatives and independents were turned on by the hysterics? Bookmakers in Ireland are putting the odds of the rebubs taking back the House in 2010 at 30%. That would be 41 seats. Kind of scary really that it is that high.

[HillbillyBob]

28. Fortunately most of us Southern white folks are not nearly as insane

as the loud minority.
I have even been hearing from some 'real' Christians about how offended they are that the name Christian has been hijacked by the wingnuts.

[timtom]

46. Trust me.

There are lots of us.

Lots.

[pink-o]

151. Listen, I had family and friends' families right out here in "liberal" California

who were the apotheosis of White Trash Racists. My mom's cousin married one of the worst bigots I've ever known--it makes me cringe that we had so many Thanksgiving dinners with these people and I was too young to get up in his grill. Consequently, he raised a racist son (dude was so stupid, he'd scream about the n*****s while practicing playing DRUMS. Who did he think invented the drum, Thomas Edison??)

Anyway, my point is that there are pockets of Pig Ignorance everywhere you go. The South doesn't have a lock on it!

[boobooday]

177. Thank you

I was born in the Midwest, raised on the east coast, spent 20 yrs in CA, and am now in Florida. Saw blatant racism in all those places. Met wonderful people in all.

The Southern bashing here is counterproductive. I don't get it.

[Bette Noir]

107. Elderly, poorly-educated Southern whites.

[CakeGrrl]

51. Yes. Look how many DUers have a direct connection to wingnuts/racists

based on the stories they've told from their family or workplace.

How many people are one degree of separation from a racist?

[progressoid]

53. I know more than I care to admit.

Some were only moderately nutty in the past. I think the failures of the GOP in the last 8 years and the election of a Democrat (a Black one at that) has made many of them have to chose sides. And the idea of admiting their party is a failure isn't an option for them. So they just get nuttier.

[shanti]

85. thank you

dad was military, so he interacted with, and had friends of many races. i remember singing a little ditty in the car one time as a child and dad slammed on the brakes and almost slapped the taste out of my mouth for doing so.

MANY MANY of us (whites), especially boomers and older, were raised in families which while not being racist in themselves, had extended family who WERE racists. a lot of them are in the closet about it now, but we know the truth..

my immediate and extended family is, except for one other family, the only one with several racial mixtures (marriages and children) in it....and the only democratic one!

kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it?

[patrice]

10. If someone i disapprove of talked to my kid, I welcomed the opportunity to talk to the kid too.

To make my case for why I disapprove of what that person is saying.

You know what? THEY CAN'T. They have no rational counter to a perfectly reasonable message to stay in school and VALUE education. That's what she's weeping about; she appears to be a simpering, impotent, fearful, weak person. Parenting is not for the feint-hearted. I am concerned about her children's futures.

[jeffbr]

12. I don't doubt her well-instilled fear

Rush et al taught them well

[create.peace]

13. what brainwashing looks like!nt

[Cha]

14. Thank you for writing this, ourbluenation.

We hear so much from our corporatemedia about the ones who don't want their kids to hear Pres Obama..but about all the ones who are looking forward to this for their kids?

[sabrina 1]

88. I just said that to a friend as I watched CNN give actual

airtime to two insane lunatics screeching about how 'dare he use the WH to push his agenda on our kids'. The clip was introduced with the words 'Outrage over President's speech to schoolchildren intensifies' or something like that.

There was NO balance, zero! There was no counter introduction of those who are outraged at the pretend outrage such as 'Outrage over the use of school-children for political purposes by the far right is growing' nor was there a single parent who is outraged that their children are being deprived of participating in a historical event by a bunch of totally off the wall loonies.

But where is the organization from the left? What happened to the 'rapid response' teams with access to the media that we saw during the campaign?

As soon as this started, Democratic groups should have been on the media demanding that their children are not deprived of hearing the president speak because of a small group, most likely funded by the right, from the outer fringes of society.

Footage of Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Laura and any other politicians who have addressed school-children should be run every time the issue is brought up.

The media is complicit and the Dems are weak and disorganized, and because of that we will most definitely face a huge defeat in 2010. They are throwing it all away is how it seems to me.

Add to that that Obama stubbornly continues to cater to these loons. IF he still thinks that trying to get along with these haters, is more important than getting the business of the country done, then I give up on him.

[treestar]

16. Let me take a wild guess

She's white?

It does indeed rock their world. Just not supposed to happen, according to their beliefs. :nopity:

[Odin2005]

19. There will be a right-wing insurection before this is over.

:scared:

[Laelth]

21. Respectful and insightful. Nicely done. k&r n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[Christa]

22. Irrational fear is the root cause of racism.

♪♫♪

[Laelth]

23. +1 n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[DeSwiss]

155. +1

[tomm2thumbs]

26. seriously, she caught the crys from Glenn Beck - it's tantrum season for the GOP

and if they don't get what they want, they are gonna throw a hissy

[zbdent]

29. Unlike RWers, we "lefties" actually believe that our kids are smart enough

to be exposed to stuff, and to be able to think for themselves ...

Apparently, RW kids are easily swayed by strangers with candy ...

[SmileyRose]

30. We can disagree on everything but at least we know we all belong at the table.

My husband's Mom and Dad are genuinely afraid of Barack Obama. It isn't the politics - their first choice was John Edwards and then Hillary. My mother in law genuinely believes that the bad people (whoever that is) will take over this country because Barack Obama is President. She believes without question every ugly thing about him she reads or hears. My father in law has not said much of anything, but when Mom said something about his birth certificate I bust out laughing before I could stop myself. My father in law got mad and left the room without saying a word. I had to go apologize for being disrespectful (and I was) before he would come out. That was 7 months ago and it's clear my involuntary laughter hurt our relationship beyond full repair.

It is fully and totally racism. They have a basic fear of blacks in general and black men in particular that they can not face nor explain.

And it makes me sad.

[mnhtnbb]

149. You should respect ignorance? You should respect lies? You should respect racists?

[Kaleko]

171. That's the message. Bottomline: Never question brutal ignorance. Show respect for it!

It's the American Way. That's how people who insist on the truthful disclosure of facts get villified, called 'truthers', or even worse 'troofers', by both, the left and the right.

[SmileyRose]

178. No, I should respect an 80 yr old couple who raised my wonderful husband.

and successfully persuading someone we love doesn't start with belittling. It was involuntary, but it was still hurtful.

[mnhtnbb]

180. Maybe your husband turned out wonderful in spite of being raised

by racist bigots. Your FIL pulled a power trip on you and you fell for it.

[SmileyRose]

182. Thank you

I am clearly too pathetic to handle my own family in a healthy and loving manner. Thankfully you are capable of seeing everything about a family you never met and determine exactly how we should be with each other.

:crazy:

[mnhtnbb]

185. Hey, my hubby's family is from Atlanta. His sister and BIL

are the same age as your hubby's parents. I suspect they're very much from the same mold: nicest people you'd ever want to meet and complete racists. BIL is a dedicated Rush Slimebaugh fan. This is a man
who fought fascism in Italy in WW II and ought to understand it but he didn't get it when it came
to Bush.

My husband, dearly loves this much older sister and her husband; they practically saved his life when
he was growing up with an alcoholic mother. But he can hardly stand to be around them anymore
because of their bigotry.

I may not know the particulars of your situation, but from what you've said, I suspect I can guess
a lot about the dynamics of your family.

[SmileyRose]

186. My in laws are not from Georgia.

My mother in law is from France moved to Ontario at 20. My father in law is Canadian. They moved to Northwestern Michigan in the 40's and shortly thereafter had my husband. They are UAW Democrats, openly supported civil rights. My father in law lost his hearing in the left ear in a fist fight with someone at work who kept harrassing a newly hired black woman at the auto plant. To this day my father in law will start shaking with anger when he declares "everyone has a right to a decent job".

My father in law fought in Japan. In the mid 50's they adopted a girl produced by and American GI and a Japanese woman (or probably a girl) - who had been left at an orphanage. My sister in law married a Nigerian. They live all live in Michigan.

They have spent my whole adult life earning my respect by word and deed both. There has never been any kind of manipulation or game playing in this family. It simply is not tolerated. And, This revelation of a quiet hidden racism is the oddity for them. I reacted to my mother in law based on the reaction I would have to the nutjobs who play games on the internet or the TV. She did not earn that from me.


I once thought I could guess about other people based on appearance, or minimal information. And sometimes my first instinct was right. But more often I jumped too fast. Sometimes I have cost myself a wonderful experience with people because I made snap judgments rather than let the person or relationship unfold in it's own good time. Great personal loss and life threatening medical crises has taught me to appreciate whatever chance or destiny or the good Lord has seen fit to bring my way. In the last 10 years I find I still make snap judgments on people I have no right to make, but thankfully I do it much less often.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

181. No, you shouldn't.

They're fucking scum.

[SmileyRose]

183. LOL

OK, that was just funny.

:silly:

[lunatica]

31. Someone should ask them to explain themselves and their beliefs

Like the kids who ask "Why?" after every response. Just keep asking them they say what they say and why they believe what they say they believe. Usually it just end up being "That's how I was raised" but the questioner needs to keep asking even after that.

[still_one]

33. Its not that deep, it has to do with racism /nt

[Eric J in MN]

34. self-deleted. NT

NT

[dhpgetsit]

35. Yup. Racism. A fear that rises from the subconscious.

She doesn't understand it. She doesn't believe she's racist. All she knows is that she is really uncomfortable with Barack Obama being in a position of leadership, and therefore she will believe anything bad that anyone says about him and his motives. You see it all around you these days.

[Left coast liberal]

36. Sometimes its really ugly when people open up like that.

Good post.

[etherealtruth]

37. I think I saw the same woman

I was astounded.

I can't fathom anyone having that reaction to the president of their country speaking. as the mother of three I certainly would not have been upset if the Chimp had spoken to the school children of our country (believe me, there is no doubt in my mind that GWB was the worst president ever); however, its a speech by the president of the USA, nothing more nothing less.

Mercifully, my children have developed critical thinking skills and we have the ability to talk openly.

The reaction to this is nothing short of bizarre.

[Justitia]

38. Another "I want my country back (there's a black man in the White House - ZOMG!)!" hateful freak.

These people need to really check themselves or go whole hog and just don the hoods & sheets in public and be done with it already.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

39. I have no idea why.

[rusty charly]

40. Conversely:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=167&topic_id=4420&mesg_id=4420

[Quantess]

41. I laughed when I saw the video clip of her crying.

It was absurd.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. Mmm, yes, your tears, they're so sweet.

[asdjrocky]

43. That's what staying up too many days in a row will do to a person.

[PassingFair]

49. Link?

I'd like to feel her pain...

[guruoo]

69. crocodile tears can be seen here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6472694#6475292

[Cass]

52. This is the result of being inundated with RW propaganda on a daily basis.

People like that need to shut off Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Faux News and the rest of the RW propaganda outlets.

[Mopar151]

116. Don't forget the pulpit!

Some folks get their churchin' all bent and twisted, get to belevin' some crazy stuff..... And I hear that religion may be the most segregated aspect of American life?

[Cass]

128. Good point! Some of these pastors and churches are really dangerous.

They contribute alot to this, too.

[Uncle Joe]

54. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ourbluenation.:thumbsup:

[Hekate]

55. That clip completely creeped me out. Barney Frank is right: What planet do they live on?

I could find no emotional common thread to her reaction.

If my children when young had had to listen to a broadcast of Presidents Nixon, or Reagan, or Bush, all of whom I despised to one degree or another, I would not have wept in despair that they would somehow be -- what? -- irrevocably contaminated? instantly converted into an overwhelmingly evil lifestyle? mesmerized into soulless zombies?

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch, WHAT is going on with the psyches of such people?

Great post, btw.

Hekate

[charlie]

56. The crying freak, for those who don't watch TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgcGlMyAg2g

[Hamlette]

57. Remember too that Clinton never won a majority, only a plurality

because of Perot.

They were able to continue the belief that Carter only won because of what Nixon did (small crime, big deal, but we got punished for it) and Clinton didn't get a majority so that must mean that the USA thinks like me. That this is a Christian, right leaning country.

Think how hard it must be for them to think that not only did a Dem win an election fair and square (except for the KoolAid drinking youth who don't know what they are doing and who he hypnotized or whatever he did to them) but the guy is black!

I thought once we finally broke the race barrier it would be over. It has only just begun. As Carville said on the TV yesterday, we thought it was because the Clintons drove them crazy. Now we know they are just crazy. I don't agree with much Carville has to say but he's right on point on that issue.

[varelse]

58. Glenn Beck's other half?

:shrug:

Newsflash to "concerned conservatives":

A non-white guy won the last Presidential election. GET OVER IT already. WE voted for this man and you didn't - we voted in greater numbers than you did. That's how democracy works.

Pick the better candidate in your next primary and he or she might get my vote... but somehow I doubt you'll manage that.

[Anakin Skywalker]

60. I actually laughed.

I laughed over how silly this whole fearmongering is! :D

[Fire1]

61. Thank you!!!

:fistbump:

[guruoo]

63. Crying? - Frame by frame shows something else...

Hubby seems more amused than concerned over his wife's apparent distress.

[varelse]

78. why does her S.O. look so amused?

or maybe that's a rictus and not a shit-eating grin on his face?

:shrug:

[guruoo]

79. A rictus of startled disbelief, perhaps, as in....

'I hope my parents, my boss, or the neighbors aren't watching this'

[girl gone mad]

117. Whoa.

I'd be crying, too, if I had that hairdo.

[LiberalLovinLug]

172. Maybe he's proud of himself

He's managed to indoctrinate his wife, and soon his kids, into believing racist fairytales.

[ashling]

64. She has been indoctrinated to feel helpless

and that helplessness has been fed by right wingnut demagogues on radio and TV. It is started before that, however. Race is only one part of it. A large part that these hate filled cretins use as fuel, but more than that ...

I have written some papers in grad. school on the topic of inequality and an now working on my professional paper on that topic. I firmly believe that the economic inequality in our country harms our democracy - our society- in a hundred different ways.

It breaks down our social fabric and democratic norms. Democracy is all about inclusion -empowered inclusion- This inequality eats first at the empowerment, and then at the inclusion itself.

Equality, as James Gailbraith says, "blurs the distinction between people." It eats away at the social capital that supports the democratic norms of reciprocity between different groups.

The racial mistrust is down there somewhere in a place we don't want to think about, but equality fuels the reciprocity that at least keeps it "controlled" and allows our disparate society to function. Inequality feeds the dysfunction creating a dystopia and an real overall helplessness.

Into that mix come the Limbaughs and Becks, Malkins and Coulters, using this race fear and sense of helplessness to create real emotional distress.

Let me add a disclaimer hear about Godwins Law. I am about to mention a topic that is used over and over on both sides of this equation to fan the flames. I make the reference, however, based upon my academic research into the disciplines of history, political science and sociology, and upon my considered conclusions of that research. It, therefore, is used advisedly and with serious intent.

Here I go: ... getting ready to jump in ... almost....deep breath ... JUMP!

If this road sounds familiar, it is because it is. There are different examples of it throughout history, but the one I choose for comparison, based upon its insidiousness, evil, and familiarity, - you guessed it - is 1920s and 30s Europe
fascism, and particularly the form of fascism that was spurred by Adolf Hitler in some sick twisted place in his sick little twisted mind. Given magnification of Goebbels and the others.

Now, remove those personalities from the historiography and, instead, insert Limbaugh, Beck, Bachman, and the rest.

Her helplessness and fear is very real indeed. It is illogical and not based on reality, but what is logic and reality to these pus spewing hate mongers that whipped this up.

[Joe Chi Minh]

141. Ther is a very good reason for Godwin's law from the viewpoint of the

far right. They can't argue against the fact that fascism is the end point of its own natural progression. In other words, Godwin's Law means the the far right fail conclusively in their argument.

Do you imagine the legion of supporters of Mussolini and Hitler among the monied people in Britain prior to WWII, would scruple/have scrupled to invoke Godwin's Law after the war?

[DawgHouse]

65. Further proof that any healthcare reform MUST include mental health conditions! n/t

[AsahinaKimi]

66. The scary thing is...

People like this, pushed to the edge by the right wing media, will usually go over with a gun or as in Timothy McVeigh's case, worse.

[leeroysphitz]

67. Who cares? This woman is obviously a...

[BrklynLiberal]

68. People like that...and the media coverage they get..spell the end of sanity

in this country.

The inmates are going to be running the asylum soon....if they are not already.

[BrklynLiberal]

71. I cannot decide if I am more sickened or more frightened by this kind of bullshit, and the

coverage the media gives it.

[spanone]

73. k&r....

[RFKHumphreyObama]

75. What a whiny crybaby

It's sad that someone who is behaving less intelligently than a child is raising a child. What a sad example this parent will be setting for her child

[SammyWinstonJack]

133. +1 nt

[JerseygirlCT]

76. Irrational hysterics

That's it, exactly.

I saw that, too. And had the same reaction. Amazed that someone was doing that, and then very disturbed at what it represents.

[fascisthunter]

77. the amount of attention the fringe is getting is telling

[defendandprotect]

103. They're being given license in a sense . . .

[muntrv]

80. I thought the righties believe that crying is for wussies.

[RagAss]

81. My heart bleeds...let her racist ass cry all day...or better yet....eat shit !

[Mithreal]

82. Kick and rec, something deeper is happening. Sooner they face it the better. nt

[dbonds]

83. This says it all

[crazylikafox]

84. Perfect! Best summary of the situation yet. I'm bookmarking this one.

[TwilightGardener]

91. That's awesome--"Notzee"!

[defendandprotect]

104. Great cartoon . .

[nc4bo]

123. What an appropriately accurate cartoon! Most of the kiddie photos I've seen

show that kids are absolutely fascinated and in love and awed by Obama, even the babies.

I remember during the GOTV days, I was lugging around handfuls of Obama election paraphernalia to knock on doors and drop off election information. One of my stops was to a trailer park that happened to be loaded with kids. I'd say about 20 of them were playing in the dirt, pushing doll baby carriages and jumping rope and when I opened my car door and they saw Obama's pictures on the material in my hands, I was literally surrounded by kids. They were pulling on my shirt, jumping up and down and begging for his photos.

I'll never forget that moment and still get all goopy eyed thinking of it now.

Those kids were between the ages of 5-15 with the majority of them aged 6-10. To them, Obama is almost magical. They will listen to him like no other.

Great toon.

[MrMickeysMom]

143. YES, it does say it all...

I hope Mike Judge's movie, "Idiocracy" will be viewed as more than a cult classic. It's already gone beyond being a "warning", it's actually becoming true. Some of these (tea-baggers, birthers, death panelists and ignorant people who can't critically think have become penetrated a Max Headroom "become stupid" blipitt (or whatever that thing was that eventually exploded your head).

[Kadie]

148. Awesome.

Printed it out and will put it on my refrigerator to get help get me through this madness.

[RedCloud]

86. Obama forgot to tell her Amerikkka that he won in a landslide and has a mandate.

Jr. did say that he had a mandate even though he had fewer votes than Gore nationwide and the idiots picked up on it and believed it. But Obama really had a landslide even though I felt he took it easy on McCain and even Palin.

[jimlup]

89. They are frightened by the show of democracy

Really at the heart of it - that is what their leaders are afraid of. The wailing idiots themselves probably are not capable of having this thought but that is what the people leading these sheep are frightened by.

[defendandprotect]

106. Agree -- and you can see that the GOP is near hysterical . . .

they're calling out all their thugs --

[proteus_lives]

90. I thought I was the only one who said "keep on keeping on"

Nice to know there is someone else. ;-)

[nini]

92. the darkies aren't at the back of the bus anymore

and they cannot handle it - pure and simple.

One of them slipped through their cracks and grabbed the ultimate prize which means another might one day - oh no!!! The rest of the world seems to embrace it which adds to their realization their white controlled universe is dying.

It's unbelievable how freaking ignorant they are which is why it's oh so scary.

[zanne]

93. That woman was crying out of anger.

It isn't only sadness or happinesss that causes tears. I'm sure we've all witnessed a kid or two who didn't get his way stomp off and cry. That isn't crying out of sadness; it's crying out of anger. The lady is ill.

[shimmergal]

97. She looks REALLY ill,

not just mentally but like she's suffering from, or just recovering from, a severe physical illness. Is it possible she wigged out from that? And her SO looks like he's just so pleased to be filmed (for TV) that it doesn't matter what she says. A weird pair!

[rosesaylavee]

94. Racism is irrational that way...

That's why reason isn't enough.

[defendandprotect]

96. Clearly, in some there is an undertone of racism . . .some may not even realize it themselves!

Many do, of course --

From what I've heard, many were very open about it!

And, IMO, the GOP has given them license to behave openly this way!

[pansypoo53219]

98. ad she can brainwash

her spawn.

[Raine]

115. Aw gee her tears

:cry: move me. :hurts: :rofl:

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

118. This current outrage reminds me of the issue of busing when the country was trying to desegregate

the schools. There were a lot of white parents who, quite frankly, were genuinely frightened for their children.

Come on. We all know what this is about. They hate this man so much, not because he was democratically elected by an overwhelmingly majority of Americans. They hate him because of his skin color. Point blank. End of story.

We need to start being honest with ourselves. All of this coded language and symbolism: 'he's not like us,' 'he's a terrorist,' 'he wasn't born in this country,' etc... This rhetoric is hate speech because they cannot come out and express their racial hatred. I hold the mainstream corporate media along with the rhetoric coming from the right wingnuts and sanctioned by the Republican Party, directly responsible should something happens to this president.

[fasttense]

120. Oh, she was just going through early menopause.

When I went through it, even bad commercials made me cry. :sarcasm:

[zanne]

121. Well, when I went through early menopause....

It didn't make me want to deny health coverage for all Americans. Just sayin'.

[Joanne98]

122. It's the preachers.

[nc4bo]

125. How silly. She looks and sounds like a straight-up fool.

Too bad M$M won't interview this silly cow after Obama's message is shown. If M$M were actually a competent and honest news machine, it would do just that.

[Enthusiast]

126. "They" might be a shrinking

minority but the M$M seems to feel they are worthy of every consideration, more consideration than a reasonable American by far.

[WinkyDink]

127. And THIS, people, is why teaching is an up-hill battle daily.

[Zodiak]

130. crystal meth makes you irrational and paranoid n/t

[Dirigo]

134. Can we get the video of this simpleton bawling her eyes out over Obama

Can someone find the video so we can make even more fun of the stupid SOB bawling her crazy ass off over the President speaking to school children? The insanity of the Reichwingtards deserves all the ridicule we can muster up.

[FourScore]

136. This is beautifully written. k/r

[Th1onein]

147. They are just ignorant. And KEPT ignorant by the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity.

Some people like the world simple. Limbaugh and Hannity take advantage of that and feed them hatred, which they gulp down by the gallons. They NEED to feel like they're better than others, and Limbaugh and Hannity fulfill this need for them, too.

[TlalocW]

150. Go to YouTube and look for the small documentary Nancy Pelosi's daughter did on the 2008 race

Among the fear-mongering and lies, etc. they were spewing about Obama, there's one scene that really stuck with me - it was a fat bubba at a Nascar event crying over the fear that his country was being taken or going to be taken away from him. He didn't offer much in the way of explanations, but you know it was because a Black man was in striking distance of the White House.

Made me sick.

TlalocW

[AnotherMother4Peace]

153. "her peers are a slim and ever shrinking minority" - radical RWer's love to use this group. nt

[emulatorloo]

154. Very thoughful post. Things have gone way too far. Some "sensible Republican" needs to denounce

this rhetoric and get these folks to calm down.

Unfortunately there do not seem to be any "sensible" Republicans. For example, I could not believe Gov Pawlenty feed into this hysteria.

[tinrobot]

156. The woman isn't the problem, the media that showcases her is.

I'm sure the media could have dug up thousands of people who were so upset with Bush that they were driven to tears.

The man stole the office then proceeded to kill people at an alarming rate.

But the media never put people upset with Bush on display, they hid them.

[kentuck]

162. She wasn't crying for her child..

She was crying for herself and her Party, which she finally realizes has lost its way and has no solutions for the problems that we face. She finally realizes that she is part of the problem and she is looking for someone to blame. Enter President Obama.

[rockymountaindem]

166. If you think that's what's really happening, then I hate to say this, but you way overestimate her

[Generator]

165. Yeah you made me wonder

So do these people never let their kids watch the news, read a paper, or have any reality that isn't "Christian" or right wing narrowed view based? Maybe it's the first time they have to admit that a black liberal is the president to their kids. WEIRD.

Reminds me of people that never have been anywhere but America and how shocked they would be just to watch the BBC news. OTHER VIEWS. THE HORROR.

[customerserviceguy]

167. Labelling it racism is just too simple

There's something else at work here.

The folks in the sticks (like the areas backing away from the speech) who voted McCain have one thing in common, they were completely surprised by Barack Obama. Let's face it, here was a man who was practically a total unknown five years before Election Day, who had the audacity to think that he could run for President with less than a full Senate term under his belt.

Really, if I had come to any of you at this point in 2003 and suggested that Barack Obama would be the next Democratic President, you'd have wanted a toke of whatever I had for breakfast. It just didn't look possible.

But--it happened. And while we are delighted (maybe not as much as we were seven months ago), we can clearly see what circumstances fell into place to make it happen. But that analysis didn't happen in flyover country.

What could it have been in the minds of the people who just didn't get Bush and McCain's unpopularity? Why it must be that Obama is a slick talker! A Svengali figure who charmed even enough middle-of-the-road folks to vote for him, even with his lack of experience. There's no way I'd want my impressionable children listening to this!! They'll be in an American version of the Hitler Youth in no time!!

I've seen people here who think that a Presidential address to students is going to turn them around, I think this is naive. Any novelty of an African-American President that younger people exhibited on Inauguration Day is just old news in the lives of people too young to vote. On both sides, some among us overestimate the persuasive powers of Barack Obama.

[cleveramerican]

169. what does she think he's gonna say thats so scary?

thats what I's like to ask.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

184. She sounds like the ninny who was interviewed in the Mpls Star-Tribune in 2004

who said that she was voting for Bush because the news of the Russian school massacre had made her fearful for her child's safety in school.

Uh, yeah, lady, the second-ring suburbs where you live are just rife with Chechen militants. :crazy:

People like that always remind me of the old folk tale The Three Sillies.

http://fairytales4u.com/story/sillies.htm