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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:18 PM
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OK Class, who here can tell me the difference between Ethics and Morals?
It seems there is a disconnect in this country as to the difference.

And for the record, there is a BIG difference.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:19 PM
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1. I'm not cheating by looking it up . . .
. . . Ethics - from the outside; Morals - from the inside.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:22 PM
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4. Actually, I see them as the opposite.........
Moral codes are codes coming from above, the Church, groups, ect.

But we live by out ethics--like the work ethic, the decency towards others ethic, etc.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:37 PM
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12. I see them as opposite
Morals come from the larger society in terms of religious teaching, laws, and social custom. Violating them means condemnation from that society from disapproving gossip to prison.

Ethics are developed internally from thinking things through. Often they're a higher standard than morals are. Violating the higher standard won't cause a ripple on society's placid surface, but you won't be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

The problem is that too many people use the words interchangeably.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:25 PM
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28. i was gonna say morals more emotions and ethics more on paper. but yours works perfectly. nt
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:20 PM
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2. Ethics come from opinion; morals from belief -nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:21 PM
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3. I'd say ethics are more universal and morals are more religious?
But I'm guessing.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:07 PM
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18. that would suggest atheist have no morals . . . which we know is not the case
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:11 PM
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20. I'm an athiest. I believe in the universality of right and wrong, not in the
decree of a higher being. I think that ethics are broader than morals.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:12 PM
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21. with that line of reasoning, I would consider you to be a moral person
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:03 PM
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34. I before E except after C. Or if you're an atheist in a weird society.
:evilgrin:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:04 PM
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37. Whoops.
My typing and my spelling suck nowadays. Is that because I'm getting old?
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:10 PM
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39. I don't think so, I'm old and I spell quiet well.
:evilgrin:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:14 PM
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40. I used to read books a lot and now I just read message boards.
Maybe that is what is messing up my spelling. lol. I'm not sure how to spell hugh anymore, nor morans.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:14 PM
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48. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 06:20 PM
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50. Thanks for noticing.
:D
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:19 PM
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42. Did you misspell something?
My eyesight isn't what it used to be. Oh! And get the fuck of my lawn.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:05 PM
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54. the theos part is a Greek root.
The A means Not.

the "ist" is an English add-on. That's why the ie rule doesn't work.

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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:28 PM
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55. So what's the etymology of the other 2?
:evilgrin:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:22 PM
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5. Ethics are people from the Old Country
Morals are like when you get sushi and don't pay.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:22 PM
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6. I Was Distracted By That Beautiful Picture
Where did you get it?
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gater Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:26 PM
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7. Morals are personal, ethics societal...
Morals are what we believe personally, ethics are the application of those morals within society... what do I win?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:27 PM
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8. Same as the difference between tactics and strategy.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:28 PM
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9. Ethics are how you treat others, morals are taboos imposed by the Church.
Some intersection, but not enough. If you had to have one or the other, I say jettison the Church.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:29 PM
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10. Too bad this isn't in the lounge - it would make for a GREAT copycat thread...
OK Class, who here can tell me the difference between Ethics and Morels?

Damn those are good mushrooms.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:51 PM
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16. SERIESLY, This is HUGH! What do morays have to do with ethics?
I like them smoked at the sushi bar!!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:23 PM
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26. LOL!
Thay ain't got nuttin' to do with ethnics.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:26 PM
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44. Heh! I am an Ethic German, what is your ancestry??
:D

(or is an ethic german an oxymoron??)

:rofl:

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:31 PM
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45. My name is Inigo Montoya - you killed my father - prepare to die.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:34 PM
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11. Ethics are standards for how one acts toward others and morals are mushrooms.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:55 PM
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30. Right and, um not so right
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:00 PM
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33. not so right, but YUMMY when sliced and coated with egg and cracker crumbs and sauted in butter.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:41 PM
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13. I read someplace
That an ethical man knows he "shouldn't" cheat on his wife, the moral man "wouldn't" cheat on his wife!

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:45 PM
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14. But that standard, GOP pols are ethical, but some are not moral.
Nah, I reject any definition that would classify GOP pols as ethical.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:09 PM
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19. or moral - even though they think they have an edge there
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:48 PM
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15. Lol. This thread begs for a Tracy Flick picture.


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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:30 PM
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57. that was a great movie
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:25 PM
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58. Hidden comedy gem.
Absolutely on my top ten comedy list. Tina Fey says she would think of Tracy Flick every time she played Sarah Palin. :rofl:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmJVTao4X-Y
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:53 PM
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17. ooh I know
ethics are minorities, and morals are a kind of mushroom
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:12 PM
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22. Sweet Picture! Please don't change it.
:hi:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:13 PM
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23. Huh? They are synonyms.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:14 PM
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24. I think morals are a series of beliefs - while ethics are a way of behaving
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:56 PM
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31. Closer
Morals do not have to pass reason. It is immoral to fornicate would be an example

Ethics do, however. It is not unethical to fornicate - but it is unethical to cheat on your wife without her permission.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:23 PM
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43. It's immoral to cheat on your wife but unethical
to have sex with a co-worker.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:34 PM
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52. Yes, but different ethics
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:19 PM
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25. I cheated and looked up the answer; I have no morals
"When considering the difference between ethics and morals, it may be helpful to consider a criminal defense lawyer. Though the lawyer’s personal moral code likely finds murder immoral and reprehensible, ethics demand the accused client be defended as vigorously as possible, even when the lawyer knows the party is guilty and that a freed defendant would potentially lead to more crime. Legal ethics must override personal morals for the greater good of upholding a justice system in which the accused are given a fair trial and the prosecution must prove guilt."

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ethics-and-morals.htm
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:57 PM
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32. That hits the nail right on the head
And I am memorizing that example - its perfect!
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:58 PM
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35. Yes, except "legal ethics" is a contradiction in terms
Sort of like "military intelligence".
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:24 PM
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27. Ethics require the use of reason to justify them.
Morals don't.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:39 PM
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29. So, tell us what you, in your infinite wisdom (LOL), think it is
After all, it is a topic that philosophers have argued about since the beginning of, well, philosophy. Plato, Aristotle, St. Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Machiavelli, Descartes, Spinoza, Kant, ad nauseam.

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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:04 PM
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36. Morals are core principals. Ethics are the way those principals are applied n/t
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:12 PM
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47. That's about how I've always thought of the difference.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:06 PM
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38. Ethics IS my "Morals"......
Since I'm an absolute Atheist, I've never had any religious notions of "morality".

Ethics serves the purpose admirably.

:)
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:16 PM
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41. Immoral behavior is a no-no all the time. Unethical behavor is a no-no
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 04:26 PM by lunatica
only under some circumstance.

It's immoral to have sex with a student, but unethical if that student is a consenting adult.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:31 PM
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53. Interesting code of ethics there. nt
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:04 PM
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46. Torture is immoral and it's unethical to not prosecute it n/t
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 05:17 PM
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49. I believe in situational ethics, so I personally see a huge difference between ethics and morals.n/t
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 06:28 PM
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51. I believe the difference is that ethics pertains to conformity with rules and law, but morals don't
morals exist regardless of rules or law. So it could be ethical to follow a standard simply because it was a standard, but immoral to do so at the same time.
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:28 PM
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56. What's the difference between perjury and lying under oath?
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