Did we ever talk about Healthcare and Education this much during Bush?

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we as a nation, that is.

Maybe we really are setting the agenda, which is a good thing. We just need to get better at framing the debate, and understand that controversy will come in places so ridiculous it doesn't even seem like it would be a topic of debate. I don't think you can prepare against outrage that has no logical basis, but there's got to be something we can do to keep them from hijacking every forward step we try to take.

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1. True with McPain we wouldn't have anything to talk about

I'm wondering if the progressives hated Clinton for not getting it through as so many seem to hate Obama when he is even still trying.

Repukes always get to frame the debate on the M$M, because they are simple minded.

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2. Of course not. That's why Obama is just like bush. Durr.