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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:01 AM
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AP discusses whether Obama is a "wuss"
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 10:02 AM by kpete
Sunday, September 06, 2009
AP discusses whether Obama is a "wuss"
by John Aravosis (DC) on 9/06/2009 10:30:00 AM

The debate has now shifted to a point that Joe and I had predicted months ago. No longer are we talking policy, but rather, Obama's inability to fight for what he believes in has now turned the debate to a discussion of whether our president is a "wuss." People don't like having discussions about whether their leader is a wuss. The very fact of having the discussion is trouble in and of itself.

Particularly troubling, the administration still thinks the president is playing some game of ten dimensional chess that only he can see:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_an/us_obama_flinch_or_fight_analysis

In an interview this past week, the adviser didn't say, but he did insist the campaign helped Obama hone a style he now uses as president.

"His approach is to keep his eye on the ball and not get bogged down in the tempest of the moment," he said. "He is ultimately a principled pragmatist. He knows where he wants to go, and he's not dogmatic about how to get there."

As president, Obama has dug in against persistent critics or stiff opposition in order to press for a broad, long-term goal.


more:
http://www.americablog.com/2009/09/ap-discusses-whether-obama-is-wuss.html
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:03 AM
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1. I certainly view him as the weakest president since Hoover
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 10:04 AM by WeDidIt
At least Bush fought for what he believed in.

Even Ford and Carter showed more strength than this president.
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:07 AM
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2. my first thought from your posting
here is a conservative tody gambling on how many liberals are uneducated enough to buy your crap
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:08 AM
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4. My first thought from your response
here is a cheerleading fanboy who would follow Obama off a cliff because they're too naive to see reality.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:10 AM
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5. +1
:evilgrin:
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:15 AM
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8. You just proved my point
You are skilled at gaslighting
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:26 AM
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12. And I'm supposed to be afraid of being book marked?

I've gone through hell in your conservative controlled world including the needless death of my daughter thanks to your party's Nazi like attitude to another human being.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:28 AM
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13. Bookmarked????
:wtf:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:08 AM
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3. hmmm...
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 10:08 AM by PCIntern
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:11 AM
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6. bush didn't have any idea what he was fighting for....but cheney did and
told bush how it was going to be...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:15 AM
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9. Bush was the president
so the strength of the administration reflects on him

Shit, even Carter had the guts to try and rescue hostages. Ford had the guts to veto shit from a Congress he disagreed with even though he was never elected to be a p[resident or replace a president.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:12 AM
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7. Bookmarked
You're going to regret that statement.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:16 AM
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10. I hope you're right
I'm 99.44% certain you are wrong.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:29 AM
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14. It all hinges on Healthcare
They certainly have painted themselves into a corner. They have all they power they need to get some great things done but it's a catch-22, screw over the people or screw over the corporations. They stay in the middle they take punches from both sides, they look indecisive and it makes them look weak.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:29 AM
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15. +1
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:31 AM
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18. "this" President? I see we've left out the OUR in that sentence
Progressives, the first to jump when the ship springs a leak.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:32 AM
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19. Progressives didn't jump ship
We were thrown overboard.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:45 AM
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20. The rope ladders are still hanging over the sides.......
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:53 AM
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21. Nope, they were pulled up long ago.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:19 AM
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11. This is just more rightwing "Manly" bullshit
they have built themselves up on being BillyBadasses when in fact they are just the opposite. As usual the rightwing media carries their overtures and exults them as being not only fact but based on fact.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:11 AM
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22. IF PResident Obama is incapable of staving off a tiny minority of screamers
how fucking strong can he be?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:31 AM
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16. Being a black man it is very hard for Obama to talk shit like bush did
White Americans (still a majority) are scared shitless of macho sounding black guys.

But they love little white punks with big mouths who talk like bad ass cowboys.
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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:13 AM
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23. Then maybe he should have chosen a different vocation more suitable to his fears
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:22 AM
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24. Maybe he is conflicted
Since he is half white, maybe he doesn't want to sound to macho at the risk of scaring himself

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:00 PM
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25. No saying that he can't fight, speaking the Queen's English. He's
capable & eloquent. But he can't keep giving in to bully's. Defund a few pet projects. Throw a few in jail.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:31 AM
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17. news flash ... D.U. and other "liberal" blogs/pundits/discussions
discuss whether Obama is a "wuss" ...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:05 PM
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26. A wuss? No. Just a typical politician thinking about the next election.
And, how to win it.
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