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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 10:53 AM Original message |
A co-worker at Target told me he would put a gun in someones face |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. Just wait until those young people have mandatory health insurance thrust on them |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. WTF? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No, we've stumbled into reality here. Welcome. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So how exactly do you think universal health care works? |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I think you are referring to "Universal Health Insurance" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I am referring to universal health care |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. I'm sure the health insurance industry would agree. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. And you are spouting thinly disguised right wing authoritarian idiocy |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. " the reason health insurance is so expensive is because everyone isn't forced to buy it" |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. A mandate is wrong. In fact, it's unconstitutional |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
104. Actually, it is more constitutional than the IRS is according to tax protesters. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
109. Every other civilized country |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Hear, hear! |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. If it came out of taxes, even people too poor to pay taxes get medical.. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. but then they get "fined" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. "those too poor to buy the product go without care." wrong. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Eh, I don't trust our politicians.. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. And subsidies are not an entitlement. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Who decides when you are too poor? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
79. the gummint and the revenuers |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. You think if you keep playing the "right wing" card on me I'll back down. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. How do you think blood is squeezed out of a turnip? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
83. I'm from Ireland/UK, where there is universal HC. It does not mean an insurance mandate. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Damn right. Auto insurance is mandated, but it's not universal. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I never said that 'mandates for insurance' and universal health care |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Please see #80 for my reasoning. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Frightening isn't it |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Right. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. The individual mandate is a recipe for disaster. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. We can kiss the generation that is 30 and under goodbye if we do this |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. +1 |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. That would only be a problem without the public option. the cost of insurance |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It is means tested in all the Democratic proposals. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I have single payer. My yearly earnings are so low that I only pay for prescriptions |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. A single payer tax would be progressive. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. payroll tax is not progressive |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I'm going by HR 676, which says it's funded by a progressive tax. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think that young man needs some serious help, at least some counseling |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That's the difference these days |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I worked in retail with young people who HAD college, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The job I trained for in college turned out to be something I absolutely don't want to do |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. That must have been a big letdown |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. It was at first, but turned quickly into a liberating experience |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I'm so glad it all worked out so well for you |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I did choose an undergraduate major that turned out to be wrong, but I kept my education as general |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Even if one never uses the knowlege they've learned, |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
69. Even law degrees are worthless. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. That is depressing |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
100. my oldest son |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. My great-grandfather was a plumber during the 1st Great Depression. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. I hope the decision to go into plumbing works out, and you should be happy that he's made a decision |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. that's true |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Of course they don't, and it's the fault of middle-class conservative America. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. We've gone back in time |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. I'd join you in the crime spree. eom |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
77. Seeing a lifetime consisting of the wealthy stealing the only thing you have, |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'm 53 |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. on top of that.. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. College is fast turning in to a suckers game |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. That is really depressing |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. you hit the nail |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. There were more blue collar jobs in the 60s and 70s |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. my mom divorced my dad |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I worked hard to get a promotion |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. the truth was he was a man |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Yeah, poor old Charlie was sexist |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. dupe |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
91. first, it was much cheaper (in constant, inflation-adjusted dollars) in the 60s & 70s. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Your number "six" |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. Ted Rall wrote the essay "College is for Suckers" in the 90's. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Same here |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I moved out of the house at 18 with one roomate. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. I moved out at 18 with one roomate as well |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. What's more violent than being deprived of everything you own? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The young man mentioned in the OP wasn't talking about taking revenge on corporations |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
96. How will he get it wtih no healthcare? Ironic, isn't it? n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #96 |
106. I don't mean he necessarily needs professional help - that's where friends and family can help |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well let's keep guns and ammo as cheap as possible then. |
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Pangolin2 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Good plan |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
9. You do what you have to do to survive.. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. and some go the other way, my daughter's BF for example... |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Thats so too bad for the young man |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. thank you |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. I can't help but think of Ted Kennedy roaring on the Senate floor about raising the minimum wage. |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
14. When someone is desparate you never know what will happen. That is |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. you get a revolution when it is more dangerous for people to do nothing than to revolt |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. Civilization's usually three meals and a roof away from chaos |
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morningglory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
50. Not to mention alcohol and tobacco addiction. What would a smoker do |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. As horrifying as the scenario you describe is ... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. It's what it took before. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
63. He'll have a roof over his head and meals served to him in jail. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Right next to a few of our wealthier white collar criminals |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. Young folks may not know this, but retail USED to support families |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Where it is still unionized it still does. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. What are the main supermarket chains in AZ? Just curious. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Safeway, Fry's, Albertsons, and Bashas |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. But now we get to buy tons of really cheaply made crap.. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. People really do think that, though. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. +1 |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
68. Oh, yeah, I'm glad this guy is getting state assistance. The taxpayers are getting a bargain. |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
76. Don't you think most people would. If not for themselves, then for their kids? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
84. I don't know what you expect when wages don't match the |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
85. In the 1930s in America, people were pissed. Food rioting and violent labor strikes were common. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
92. It is in the interestes of the very rich to keep the very poor from desperation. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. They count on them crawling away to die |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
94. How bad would the economy have to get before people resorted to outright looting? |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
101. I can't imagine anyone surviving on minimum wage. |
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Rocky Sullivan (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
102. I wonder if the name "Target" inspires unhealthy gun fantasies |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #102 |
107. In the 30+ years Target has been around, I can't recall a single incident of someone shooting one up |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. When I was a manager at my Target a few years ago |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
111. Materialism is to blame for this |
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