Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Naomi Klein (Shock Doctrine) shows what is happening to California now

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:39 PM
Original message
Naomi Klein (Shock Doctrine) shows what is happening to California now
http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2009/06/schwarzenegger-s-shock-therapy-poor-pay-sins-rich

Watch the video on line

Video: Schwarzenegger’s Shock Therapy--The Poor Pay For The Sins Of The Rich
By Avi Lewis - June 16th, 2009

Now that Washington has ruled out an immediate bailout for California, we know who will pay the ultimate price for the crisis born on Wall Street: the state’s most vulnerable citizens. And with many states facing similar crises, this could be a preview of where the country as a whole is headed.

California is facing a $24.3 billion dollar budget gap, and the governor wants to attack it with cuts to social programs alone. If Schwarzenegger has his way, the price will be paid by 1.9 million people who lose their health care coverage, 1.3 million who lose basic welfare, thousands of state workers who get fired, schools that lose $5 billion in funding, having already survived brutal cuts earlier this year.

I just spent a week in LA and Sacramento filming a documentary on the crisis for Fault Lines, the show I co-host on Al Jazeera English Television. We interviewed teachers who are on hunger strike against the cuts, students organizing protest marches, health care workers and their patients, politicians from both parties, undocumented immigrants and the talk show hosts who demonize them (Californians will know the John and Ken Show…) Yes we do, and they're awful.

What we discovered (beyond some priceless video of Arnold Schwarzenegger introducing Milton Friedman’s TV series on PBS in 1990, is that thanks to the quirks of California’s system, the state is a Petri dish for some of the most virulent strains of American political culture.

Around the world, government is seen as the last hope to stimulate a comatose economy. In California, anti-tax, anti-spending, and anti-government sentiments are converging: California is facing a de-stimulus package of epic proportions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
1. California - we are killing ourselves but
especially the weakest amongst us. I'll watch it of course. Naomi Klein is one of my newest heroines.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
2. Thank you for the recommends
I think we can get these videos on the video forum.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. What We Are Seeing In Calif is "Wealth Protection" for The Richest/Corp Interests...
Of course it is the most politically powerless who will suffer the most as all the stops have to be pulled out to protect the status quo of the wealthiest members of society and corporate interests.

You cannot expect the wealthiest members of society(who benefitted the most from Bush's tax cuts and deregulation) to pay higher taxes in order to protect their own income and holdings from declining in value.

That is for the 'little people' as Leona Helmsley stated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. You have got to watch the interview with Clear Channel's John and Ken on the first video
Unbelievable.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. oh yes..
those damned immigrants!It's all their fault!! :sarcasm: They talk about the $13billion that they take out but they don't mention the more than $13b that they put INto the state. Just another veil for racism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Easiest thing in the world to blame the people at the bottom
John and Ken have a million listeners though. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #6
32. And the billions in FICA that they pay and never collect !!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:59 PM
Response to Original message
5. Now in the video forum
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:21 PM
Response to Original message
8. After Enron jacked around with the flow of California's energy
the summer before Bush took over, I wondered what was happening out there? Sounds like the attorney general Jerry Brown is doing some digging into the high rate of insurance denial claims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Enron skimmed off the California surplus of 1 bn. Public money into private hands through a scam
That was what happened.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. They robbed CA of 9 billion, CA sued and that is why Schwarzenegger was called in
to settle the suit for pennies on the dollar.

9 billion dollars was scammed from Californians, the first hit to an economy deliberately sacked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Yep.
Hence the recall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #12
25. Why is Schwarzenegger, the pervert, in office anywhere ... leave alone CA????
Don't get it???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #9
24. Tens of billions of retirement funds were invested in Enron -- !!!
I well remember Barbara Boxer's statements on all of this --

And, I don't know what the final figures were -- ???

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:13 AM
Response to Original message
10. Sadly Its True - 2/3 Vote Requirement For Budgets and Taxes Means...
That there is no realistic way to deal with economic cycles, because once a tax is cut, it is now impossible to increase, and even Republicans are dead set against cutting services like law enforcement, so it is all passed on to the poor. Of course, this is a recipe for long term disaster, as education and programs targetted at the middle class and poor are cut, and infrastucture spending dries up.

Somehow, this amazingly anti-democratic system where 1/3 of the legislature can dictate the budget and taxes has persisted on borrowed time. Worse, with term limits, you also have a legislature that has no interest in the long term fiscal health of California. So long as they get through their term limit having voted no on taxes, they don't care.

We should just go ahead and abolish the legislature, since we have already crippled them through propositions to the point that we cannot even hold them accountable for the decisions we made with mandated spending and tax cuts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:30 AM
Response to Original message
13. Calif, my state, has turned it's back on victims of domestic violence with the 100% elimination
of the battered women's shelter program. Remember - often when a woman goes to a safe house, she has a few children with her. Calif - the state that doesn't care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. This just outraged me when I heard about it.
OF all the programs to cut...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Thx. I run a dv shelter. It's been devastating in more than economic ways too.
staff is demoralized, morale is in the shitter. It's terrible having your livilhood totally beholden to one person.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. I don't understand why that program of all the ones to cut....
Arnold is just misogynist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. You've got that right . . .
and how did all the "swiftboating" of Gray go on . . . just more Repug thugism!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. And money from Daryl Issa
SOB
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Is he wealthy? You mean Issa in Congress, right?
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 07:32 PM by defendandprotect
And, you can't run a patriarchy if women and children are safe -- !!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. Yep. Issa used a lot of his own funds fpr the recall thinking that he would be the candidate
Issa was also the guy whose office that Irv Rubin, the JDL head, tried to break into. Rubin was put in jail for that and committed an usual form of suicide.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
33. Will any private corporations help?
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 07:44 PM by defendandprotect
Meanwhile, who could miss noticing how unpopular aid for women and children is

among GOP -- !!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
14. AND, like in Washington, The Dems are in the majority
What does that tell you?

We are soooo fucked!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #14
28. Seems like Schwartzenegger has been in office forever... what Dem is running???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
18. If this trend continues, what will the rich do when the poor come for them?
Eventually, millions of people will be out of work, out of money, and out of hope. With nothing left to lose, they will act. When they decide to take what they need from the people that have it all, what will the rich folk do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. First they'll hire Blackwater, I mean Xe, and when that doesn't work, they'll
RUN.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. They keep perfecting their methods . . . they killed JFK to ensure no new FDR arose . . .
and they've continued with political violence to eliminate any leader or rising

leader!

This time around -- unless Americans begin to move to take back the Democratic Party --

to oust the DLC from the party and the White House -- or move to more progressive ground --

they don't plan on losing the battle keep this system of capitalism going -- wealth for

the few, poverty for the many!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
19. California's economy is 1/8 of the US economy
California's population is 1/10 of the US population.

This is scary stuff.... The mortality rate is gonna climb. People will die unnecessarily. Children will not reach their potential. People will become much sicker. Homelessness will increase. This is too large a percentage of this country to do this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. That's why everyone should care what happens here.
It's the harbinger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
23. Bail outs for corrupt capitalism but not for California -- !!!
Look at all the harm done to NYC with MIHOP 9/11 -- !!!

And think odd things happened with the money promised to the city -- !!!

Naomi Klein is right -- and this is happening now!

GOP's "third world America" . . . they've been working on it for decades!!

Overturning the NEW DEAL regulations on capitalism was essential to doing it --

If Americans are dumb enough to think we can have a viable future while holding onto

capitalism/corporatism, then I guess this is our future!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
31. US should bail CA out, but only with proviso that the pervert steps down . . .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 09:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC