Glenn Beck and AA

[rbrnmw]

I was talking to someone today who believes Glenn Beck has relapsed and has a mental disorder This is from the Big Book How it Works chapter Beck needs to get honest Fox News is contributing to his demise by allowing him to say the things he says and they dont care as long as they get their ratings he truly needs help and I am sure Fox knows that but they dont care So if Glenn dies in his disease Fox News is responsible

Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average. There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.

[snake in the grass]

1. Of course this is purely speculative.

I'd tend to go with an actual diagnosis made after a thorough examination. Perhaps he really is mentally ill (aside from being a conservative, which indicates a tendency toward sociopathy), or perhaps it's just an act. Either way, I don't give a flying fuck. Let him have his meltdown. I can only think of a few others who deserve it as much as he does.

[madokie]

8. Thats right

this mo'fo is making money off lying his ass off so whatever fate he meets is fine by me. fuck glen beck and the people who like him too

[old mark]

2. There are those few people who are such huge assholes that they are as

intollerable when they are sober as they are when they are not.

Mr. Beck could easily be one of them.

mark

[Tx4obama]

3. Well.. as far as responsiblity goes...

I would think that the responsibility of a relapse and to seek proper medical attention would fall upon...

1) Glenn Beck
2) Mrs. Beck
3) The Beck Family
and not FoxNews.
It is not the responsibility of an employer to be in charge of your mental state or the responsibility of seeking treatment for a disease.

It is the responsibility of the employer to offer/obtain 'health insurance' to its employees if that is a stipulation in the contract.

Also, it is the responsibility of the news network to not allow anyone to spew hate and falsehoods working for their network, which is a different issue.

[MattBaggins]

6. "It is not the responsibility of an employer to be in charge of your mental state "

absolutely false

If the employer is putting you in a job that specifically feeds off of or enhances a mental condidtion then they are very much responsible for what you do.

[Tx4obama]

12. What on earth are you talking about?

Fox News does not hire hosts due to mental condition, they hire people for their speaking ability, etc.
No one hires someone because they are MENTAL.
If you are trying to make a valid point then please elaborate.

[fascisthunter]

22. in order to say those things one has got to be a bit touched

[rbrnmw]

25. the point is this

Fox News airs his crazy rants even promote them in ad spots for his show He is mentally ill and these are delusions that they let him air on their station nightly that is how it is their responsibility

[get the red out]

4. I have wondered this

But I also wonder if he doesn't just have an underlying mental illness that he self-medicated with drugs and alcohol and once he got sober, and got involved with right-wing religion, didn't feel a need to have treated.

If you sober up a nut-case you have a dry nut-case. It is hard to tell with Beck, but one thing is apparent to me is that this man has been getting worse by the day. Years ago when I first saw him on CNN he was just obnoxious, now he is certifiable. He is definitely untreated in some major way.

[rbrnmw]

11. exactly and I wil say again Fox is watching this man go

further and further into his illness his own little paranoid world and making money off of it I dont like Glenn Beck but it makes me even angrier to see Fox News exploit this man's illness for their own agenda. It is very apparent this man is mentally ill. Fox News should be ashamed of themselves

[get the red out]

19. I wonder if Beck still works on his alcoholism

if he still has any contact with other recovering people, who would aid by telling him the truth of his illness? Most likely not. His "fame" has probably isolated him from anyone that would understand his real situation. As we see in the tabloids with so many Hollywood stars, this tends to not end well.

Good point that Fox is using him, just another illustration that Fox News cares less about human beings than it does about anything else, even if that human being is a "valued member of the Fox team". $$$$$$$

"We report, you decide" And I have.

[FreakinDJ]

5. He's more like Jim the Used Car Salesman

Incapable of being honest with himself nor anyone else

[TxRider]

7. Beck is laughing all the way to the bank

[Johonny]

9. I agree

[ShortnFiery]

16. Look at Beck's facial expressions? He's one tortured soul. He's NOT having

fun. He's truly scared and is fomenting HATRED.

No, Beck is not only mentally ill, his form of dementia is somewhat contagious among some who don't watch any other news source save for FOX.

[Orsino]

18. Yes. Why assume that anything happening on Fox is genuine?

They are fleecing the rubes, and Crazy(tm) is currently a good brand.

[get the red out]

21. Real crazy sells better

Real, authentic crazy like Beck is to faux crazy like suger is to sweet n low. I am sure the audience appreciates the real thing.

[Orsino]

24. I dunno.

As I always say, we won't know for sure until acting crazy stops paying so well. :shrug:

[TexasObserver]

10. With or without substances, he's nutty as a squirrel turd.

He does strike me as one of those Rush Limbaugh guys who stays high all the time, and his rants are part of that.

[ShortnFiery]

13. When I watch Beck, the term "Dry Drunk" comes to mind.

That is, he's still dysfunctional albeit he's no longer drinking. :(

I can't fathom that, in any real way, Glenn Beck is "working his program."

Addiction or not, Glenn Beck is one sick human being.

[rbrnmw]

17. I hope someone steps in and confronts him

maybe his sponsor or other AA's with a lot of time in the program though a person can't work another person's program they can tell them what they see happening

[Barack_America]

14. If I had to put money on it, I'd say he's manic depressive.

He's mentioned being depressed before and when I see clips of him now, he looks very manic.

He also has a family history of suicide and bipolar disorder is hereditary.

[get the red out]

20. Could be

People who go manic and have addiction issues will often self-medicate with alcohol or other illicit drugs eventually to bring themselves back down. I have a close friend who had this history prior to sobering up and getting help with her bi-polar problem.

I guess Fox doesn't offer a very good healthcare package if the dude can't even get Lithium! :sarcasm:

[Hubert Flottz]

15. "honest"

There is nobody who fits that description working for FOX "NEWS" that I have ever seen on there.

[Gman2]

23. Bullshit. He is a huckster. Doesnt believe a crazy thing he says.

[zanne]

26. Sobriety is not necessarily synonymous with "rational".

If he was batshit crazy before he started drinking, sobriety isn't going to help him become sane.