Democrats dont worry about "the left"

[OwnedByFerrets]

Just stated by O'donnell on KO. They had better fucking worry.:mad:

[polichick]

1. Wow, this is amazing - he says "it always works"...

...meaning the left will fall into line.

[bvar22]

21. It did NOT work in 2000.

It won't work in 2010/2014.

But "The Centrists" (half Republicans) have the nerve to blame The Left for not supporting their Republican Lite Sell outs. :shrug:

Doesn't matter to me anymore.
I will cast my votes for those who earn them.

[mitchtv]

25. It really didn't work in '68

Remember president Humphrey? OOPs he lost. He wouldn't come out against the war. I wrote in Gene McCarthy. No more "you have no place to go" for me> I'll go home

[Toasterlad]

30. That's My Boy

First, we're told in the primaries that our vote won't count if we want to vote for a true progressive like Kucinich. Then comes the general, and all of a sudden, our votes the most important thing in the world, and if we use if for someone else instead of the corporate-selected democratic candidate, we've single-handedly allowed the republicans to win.

No more voting against my interests, be it gay equality, healthcare, the wars, etc. Never again.

[Holly_Hobby]

2. I heard it too

OMG I'm so pissed OFF!

[kid a]

3. survivor on CBS at 8pm...you probably believe that show is real too...watch TEEVEE much?

[OwnedByFerrets]

7. What I watch on the TeeVee is none of your business.

if you have something constructive to say, spit it out. Otherwise go watch your reality shows on faux.

[Cha]

4. That's a blanket statement..obviously

some Dems are concerned with the Progressives..and President Obama asked us to help him get Public Option.

I don't doubt it's true of a lot of Dems I like to call dinos.

[Justitia]

5. I sensed a sly call to arms from O'Donnell at the end. He said there will be an explosion,

he's right. Time to really pressure the reps!

[Sebastian Doyle]

6. O' Donnell is kinda like Tweety.

He's had his great moments, like a couple weeks ago when he grilled the Hell out of some Repuke congressman over "soshialized medisun", or when he used to take on Pat Buchanan on the McLaughlin group.

Other times he comes off like a complete DLC douchebag. And this would be one of those times. :puke:

[Peregrine Took]

17. Known as playing "both sides of the street." n/t

[seafan]

8. He also said that 'we didn't have the Internet in 1994.'

Damn right, they should be worried.

[FatDave]

19. Some of us did.

Just sayin'.

[seafan]

23. He referred to the blogosphere in a way that sounded like they are terrified of its influence.

They (Congresspeople) have not had to face down the rapid and widespread exposure of whose back pockets they are in, which big money interests are paying them off to not be responsive to constituents, and exactly how much corporate money finds its way into their campaign coffers.


Max Baucus thought he was one day going to be famous for his career work in the Senate. He is now infamous.


I have often thought that the Internet will save us yet, from those who operate in the shadows and behind closed doors.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Oh, that's OK. There's a lot of Leftists that don't worry about the Dems.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams

[OwnedByFerrets]

10. Nice quotes.

:toast:

[Fumesucker]

11. Just like Lucy never worries about Charlie Brown not kicking the football..

What, are you gonna vote Republican?

There is nowhere else for the left to go in American politics, I suspect a lot of us might just stay home though.

[Toasterlad]

33. There Are Always Progressive Candidates to Vote For, No Matter How Marginalized

I'd rather make a statement by voting for one of them than just staying home. It's a small difference, perhaps, but it means something to me.

[Zodiak]

12. ....until this time.

Face it, so many Democrats have acted so shamelessly in the last few months that it would take incredible hubris and entitlement to believe they can escape the wrath of the activist wing of the party after pissing away the single biggest issue that affects ordinary Americans.

How can anyone honestly believe that giving away the entire farm to the lobbyists for a few pieces of silver will make rank and file Democrats happy? People are fucking dying!

[Laelth]

20. +1 n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[OwnedByFerrets]

29. I believe its because they are so out of touch in Washington

and surround themselves with sycophants.

[rwheeler31]

13. He is a real downer today.

[ejpoeta]

14. do you know why they don't worry.... because when you ahve to choose between obama and

palin... you are going to vote for obama.... no matter what he does or whether he screws us over.... and the same is true for the senate and house.... if you have to choose between a dem who backed down or wouldn't vote for the public option and a republican who is a republican, then we will vote for the dem. that is why.

[MadHound]

18. Nope, no more

I won't fall for that trick one more time because frankly at this point, if the Dems don't put in a public option and wind down both wars, I'm done, I'm going Green. Let the fucking country go to hell, at least under Palin it will go to hell quicker, meaning that we can rebuild it quicker.

Not going to fall for that one anymore

[lib_wit_it]

24. My revenge fantasy is that we all vote Palin/Bachman in and then leave the country. Let the

corporate whores of both parties and the lazy, uninformed, and delusional live with the consequences.

[ejpoeta]

27. yeah.... what's the point when they aren't much different from the republicans.... even when they

have the numbers they won't do what they said they'd do.... but they THINK that we will vote for them because the alternative would be so much worse. maybe they would get a damned clue if we could get rid of all of them.

[Toasterlad]

34. EXACTLY.

It's the same meme they've used to keep us in line for decades, and things will NEVER CHANGE until we reject it wholeheartedly.

Refuse to be a sock pocket for republican lite!

[fascisthunter]

32. that fear will not apply anymore

the party will have to learn the hard way that voters are not to be manipulated and used.

[mitchtv]

37. in your dreams

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. They playing with a third party challeng ala Ross Perot, and will lose it all.

[Nite Owl]

15. I think we are going to have

a left wing activist strike coming up in 2010.

[Peregrine Took]

16. Oh, you know, "where ELSE are they going to go?"

They just may find out....

[FatDave]

22. Think we could get...

...Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Patrick Leahy, Sherrod Brown, Russ Feingold and Anthony Weiner to join our new party? Nothing would bring more instant credibility than sitting congresspeople.

[TheKentuckian]

28. VERY unlikely Dave.

You think even Sanders, Feingold, and Leahy are going to even kill the bill? If so we'd be hearing a lot less about Blue Dogs because if even a handful of Senators would hold the line then the whole trajectory would change here. There are about no votes to spare in the Senate at all. There are no more than two Republican votes for ANY measure. 3-5 lefty Senators saying no way would lead to a substantial rethink.

Only Kucinich is a possible (though also unlikely) and that should be a clear indicator of the viability of such an effort. Here's the thing every time the left stays home EVERYTHING ends up tracking to the right, Democrats, Republicans, and the country at large. This angst is nothing new at all but it is a good a time as any to realize there is a place between taking your ball and going home and rolling over. We shouldn't be afraid of killing bad legislation but should continue to influence the party because history and reality say that dropping out hurts our causes more than it will hurt wealthy sell outs. We don't have to start a new party, just cease rolling over. That is by far the easier and more logical path. We now can work the representatives much better than any time in the past.

You win by staying in the fight.

[Toasterlad]

35. How Are We Winning?

If this is war, then our elected Democrats are sympathizers, who smuggle weapons to the enemy, while pretending to be on our side. The only way to win this fight is to expose and remove them, and elect some people who will fight FOR us.

Keep voting DINOs into office and NOTHING CHANGES.

[Echo In Light]

36. That's exactly the sort of new approach needed now more than ever

[mitchtv]

38. and Howard Dean!!!to make it real

[Skittles]

26. that is pretty fucking obvious

[fascisthunter]

31. lol... oh you are so mistaken if you think we will "fall in line"