If they cave on public option, where does that leave you?

[Joe Fields]

Can you, or will you continue to participate in a game, where you have been clearly marked as irrelevant? (except, of course, when they need you for their re-election campaigns)

Between the wars and this issue, I have had my fill. I can't tell who is democrat and who is republican anymore.

[villager]

1. it will then be -- unequivocally -- time to organize around *issues* and not "leaders"

and certainly not "politicians..."

[Cant trust em]

2. If Baucus and Conrad and other conservadems wind up siding with republicans

I am done with the democratic party. Not just because they are unwilling to respond to the progressive wing of the party, but because there is no point of organizing ourselves in this manner if we cannot act as a cohesive body.

[sharesunited]

3. Third party then? Talk about the wilderness. Your best choice is still transforming the Democrats.

[Cant trust em]

5. The party can do whatever it wants...

but the next time I go to register, there's going to be an (I) next to my name.

[Joe Fields]

8. same here...

[Gopens]

6. Without a public option, I'm done with the Democrats

If we get a watered down bill that does nothing to make health care more accessible and affordable to average Americans, the next person who wants my vote had damn well better tell me they are going to fight for single payer. After this fiasco, nothing less than that gets my support.

[Joe Fields]

7. there will be no point to being a dem. It would be meningless.

If the dems, with their control of congress and the White House, with the majorities it enjoys, are going to allow fringe crazies from the opposition and a handful of traitors from within, to derail their issues, then they certainly do not deserve my support.

[Cant trust em]

9. As someone sagely posted earlier today...

Obama has a democratic congress, but not a liberal congress.

[ginnyinWI]

4. I won't deal in hypotheticals.

I will wait and see what happens. No sense wasting angst on something that didn't happen. Also, that's the Right's stock in trade--worry and scare tactics over what might happen, what somebody might to, etc etc.

[Joe Fields]

10. bully for you!

[Sebastian Doyle]

11. The Democratic party will die the death it deserved to die after the 2002 election

because Howard Dean won't be there to save it this time.