BECK: "I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself..."

[kpete]

http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008
From the May 17 '05
broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Amazing what some people can get away with saying on the air.

[MajorChode]

2. This should be taken seriously given his outstanding rape and murder allegations

http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

[Richardo]

5. Knock that shit off

[ret5hd]

11. I have never hear glenn beck deny the rape and murder allegations...

Why not?

Have you?

[Richardo]

18. Yeah yeah so hilarious.

Har har.

There are loads of actual, real problems with that noxious tub of shit without making light of rape and murder to make some kind of idiotic satirical point.

[MajorChode]

22. Yes, like the problem of him not denying it

You make a great straight man, BTW.

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[badgerpup]

29. Oh man...

The allegation that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A YOUNG WOMAN IN 1990 :wow:

(did I get that right...emphasis wise, I mean?) was all over several FARK threads last week...

:wtf:

What was that all about?
I mean, did GLEN BECK really RAPE AND MURDER A YOUNG WOMAN IN 1990?...or is this a sort of Google-bomb/birth-certificate/'give him a taste of his own medicine and see how HE likes it' prank sort of thing?


:evilgrin:

[Seedersandleechers]

51. Some people are making allegations

that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young woman in 1990. So far he has not denied it. Some people are saying he was on drugs (cocaine) at the time.

[progressivebydesign]

65. wouldn't surprise me.

I know that allegations that like have been lobbed against Democrats and other officials, but when you have someone like Beck, who seems to have a tenuous grip on his anger, I could picture it.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

17. Wrong post.

[Qutzupalotl]

62. The thing is, when that's shown to be baseless

our side is going to look as foolish as the socialist-indoctrination fearmongers.

[MajorChode]

69. It's more like tomfoolery

It's kind of hard to 'show' something is baseless when that was the point to begin with.

[Qutzupalotl]

77. The point will be lost on many we could be persuading instead.

It won't always have the context we're giving it, so it just becomes more ammo: "See how the left lies?"

[MajorChode]

78. Oh please

It's hard to lose the "context" when it's quite clearly stated up front. It's not as if Rachel Maddow or Media Matters is promoting this as factual. It's clearly sarcasm and anyone who mistakes it for anything else is dumber than a bag of hammers, even by GOP standards.

[Qutzupalotl]

79. Know your enemy.

They are that dumb and more.

[MajorChode]

83. Exposing stupidity was the point from the beginning

[Qutzupalotl]

84. It's better to expose their lies than make up our own.

[MajorChode]

85. And how well has that worked so far?

The problem with the right is they are willfully ignorant. You can't expose or educate people like that because they will defend such lies to the bitter end even if they know they are lies. The best approach is to marginalize them politically and the most effective way to do that is through humor and sarcasm.

[Qutzupalotl]

86. a) This isn't funny and

b) even if it were, the people we need to persuade won't get it.

On The Daily Show, humor can be effective because they can control the context and delivery. But just slandering somebody to show how slanderous they are is counterproductive because it gives the other side ammo.

[MajorChode]

87. I don't get your contrast with the Daily Show

A web site can control "context and delivery" to a greater extent than a TV program. The potential for misuse (if there actually were any) is the same.

The "people we need to persuade" aren't the Beckites. It's anyone who's smart enough not to tune into his program, but may not understand the level of idiocy. That's what marginalizing morans is all about.

You may not think the approach is funny, and that's fine. Not everyone has the same sense of humor. But I don't buy that the approach is counterproductive for a minute.

[Maru Kitteh]

3. MM should file charges.

[Old and In the Way]

8. My thoughts, too.

If I'm MM, I'm doing my next documentary on the takedown of Glenn Beck. He could do it in real time. Possibly catch Beck in a complete breakdown, as they take him in for observation.

[pschoeb]

15. Or at least a restraining order

nt

[Deja Q]

25. Seconded

[sakabatou]

67. He definitely should

Beck has gone over the line.

[global1]

4. Can This Be Considered A Threat?......

Could Michael get a restraining order on Beck? Wouldn't that be cool. MM going to court to get a restraining order on Beck for threatening to kill him. Then make sure everyone knows about this. Beck might just lose a few of his followers. They might even think he went too far this time.

[madokie]

12. I think here in OK

if you make a threat like that the person who is threatened is right to do anything they can to stop that from having a chance of happening. Around here he'd, beckie boy, get the shit kicked out of him at the very least and not necessarily just by MM either

[progressoid]

20. I doubt it. It was four years ago,

I doubt a judge would consider it a threat if nothing has happened in four + years.

[Kablooie]

57. No. Beck's a Republican and so is immune from any kind of legal limitations. Constitutional or not.

[daa]

6. The sad part about this

if we said anything like that about a wingnut when bush was prez we would be guilty of making terroristic threats. But this asshole Beck can say anything. I wonder if Beck has body guards? Just asking?

[RidinMyDonkey]

7. What a lunatic

I can't wait to hear some of my RW acquaintances to try and explain that away!

[Cleita]

9. Throw a net over him and put him in a padded cell. He's a danger to

others and himself. I'm serious. This is a threat. No doubt about it. But I'm sure the courts will find him mentally incompetent, so lock him up.

[formercia]

10. Beck wants to be a Martyr.

He wants to be arrested so his followers will rise up and revolt. He can claim persecution and violation of his First Amendment rights.

Didn't you know? He is the Messiah come to claim his throne at the head of the New World Order. :rofl:

[1776Forever]

13. Please Please Please Michael take this jerk to court & sue the pants off him!

:argh:

[inna]

14. why is this lunatic still on the air? it looks like he's become a liability even to Faux Noose at t

his point

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[Richardo]

21. Will everyone please notice that this was four years ago?

Not excusing it - I've heard the tape. But I don't think it's actionable in the form of lawsuits, restraining orders, etc.

[Deja Q]

24. Threatening another's life as such? That's a no-no... could be insane too...

I don't care for either person, but Beck is a real piece of dog doo. On a stick. Deep-fried in lard and sold as a corn dog.

[I Have A Dream]

26. This is how I found DU!

I was so outraged about this broadcast that I was looking for his sponsors on-line. Somehow I came across DU, which I'd never heard of before. I immediately donated and started posting.

I really don't know if I would have ever found DU if it weren't for him.

He's only gotten crazier over time...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

27. Killer Clown John Wayne Gacy entertained the same kinds of thoughts

I wonder if Beck would bury the body under his house or chop it up into pieces and incinerate it?

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. Hey, Beck, didn't you watch 'Bowling for Columbine'?

You know, Michael Moore IS a member of the NRA.

[opihimoimoi]

30. First we got DITTOHEADS, now, what is it? BeckerHeads? and WTF is his Prob?

Kill MMoore?

Is this insane or not?

Of course it is.....

Free Speech has its limitations...

What Beck is doing.... is to stretch our Free Speech Laws into efforts to shut off OUR FREE SPEECH...cause if he get his way

We would become a THEORACRCY.....

Where DOGMA rules....and dissent suppressed...as in certain Nations.

Beck should be seen for what he is...a tool and a Fool...

[nashville_brook]

33. Beckerheads! Love it!

i'm totally using it.

[opihimoimoi]

35. I cannot get over the fact he is still out there spewing his Hate Divider Crap

He is suppressing advancement....

He is an American TRAITOR....

He never looks for the GOOD

accentuates the Neg and the Hate

which makes him EVIL

[nashville_brook]

72. I couldn't agree more. just used your term, btw -- :)

[glinda]

31. Beck needs to be hauled into questioning for all of his hate speech.

[Skidmore]

32. Michael Moore should take out a restraining order against him.

Really. I'd take him at his word.

[grok]

36. Considering Beck has shut himself inside his own house,

what does it matter?

If he would take out a restraining order, what he should do is to go to EVERYwhere Beck would go, like tea parties,celebrations and whatnot. then Beck would have to go elsewhere....


Oh I'm sorry, restraining orders are not Federal! ;-)

[Snotcicles]

41. Micheal Moore should respond with " If I don't get to him first" nt

[grok]

45. just because one threatens, doesn't mean he has balls...

Personally, I think Moore's balls have have shrunk against his fat ass...

Just like any LIB or CON who hasn't had to work physically for his food and who has convinced some sucker to do it FOR him.

[guitar man]

34. oh yeah

well I'd like to throttle the living shit out of Beck, and once I got my hands on him, I don't think I would give a flying shit what Jesus would do :evilgrin:

[grok]

37. gOOD THING BeCk AIN'T THE PREz

otherwise you would get a visit from the fedz. ;-)

[guitar man]

38. aww, c'mon

I didn't say I wanted to kill him, just scare him bad enough to make him shit his pants :rofl:

[grok]

42. throttle the living *sh?t out of?

If someone said that that about the PREZ, i personally would WANT the FEDZ to visit him!!

but as you say, you didn't mean it.

I believe you. But you JUST furnished a legitimate out for someone who says it. When it involves some one else. Afterall, you didn't mean it, so somebody could claim the same.

when it involves the PREZ!!(Obama)


I rest my(your) case...

;-)

[OwnedByFerrets]

39. He represents the 19% that STILL supported

Monkeyboy till the end. Unfortunately, that is a huge chunk of America. I wish something could be done about his hatred.

[Toasterlad]

40. I've Heard That He's Killed Before...In 1990. Also Raped.

[grok]

43. Innocent till proven in a court of law.

AND by a jury of your peers..

It's the AMERICAN way!........
;-)

[Toasterlad]

46. I'm Only Telling You What I Heard. But Why Won't He Deny It???

[grok]

47. I heard Toasterl?d buttf??ed a leprekaun....

Until, i hear a word from the Supreme Court,(let's make it easy, one justice, Sotomayor) we MUST assume it's TRUE!

It's the American way! ;-)

[Toasterlad]

48. That Is Total Hearsay! No One Saw Me Fuck That Leprechaun! It's His Word Against Mine!

See? Unlike Beck, I will stand up for myself.

[grok]

49. Ah, but he is a public figure...

he CAN be contacted and identified one way or another. No escaping it.

So, since you are claiming equivalency, what is your actual name and number? or at least of your agent/lawyer who can legally speak for you?

Bruno, in cell 59 will be gentle with you. He promised me.(not actual experience. yes, I knew what you would say)

[Toasterlad]

53. What Does Beck Being a Public Figure Have To Do With Whether He Raped and Killed a Girl in 1990?

If there were no witnesses, it's his word against the dead girl's, which is EXACTLY like my case against that lying, loose-assed leprechaun.

[grok]

55. Good point.

However, Glenn Beck merely played back what Van Jones Said HIMSELF. And THAT is what made a HUGE difference. Not a lie. Opinion is something else.

We ALL lie occasionally. And I do mean ALL. Including You, myself and Glenn Beck.

Tell a truth that matters. and make it COUNT. Then you can a hold a candle to Glenn Beck, a mere bigmouthed clown that tells a truth sometimes, if rarely..

[Toasterlad]

58. Here's My Truth: I Don't Care For Madonna.

Never really have.

[progressivebydesign]

66. unless we waterboard him into admitting it. It's the American WAY!! n/t

[treestar]

44. So he needs the threat of hellfire to avoid committing murder?

RW lunatics make this argument without realizing that is the conclusion they are offering.

[rustydog]

50. Glenn Beck is a gutless bastard who TALKS tough

He does not have the guts to face anyone. all of his tough talk is done when he is safely secured in his studio talking to the camera or radio microphone. He is a pussy, plain and simple.

He talks tough because of his sexual frustration, he doesn't have the stamina to choke his chicken let alone Michael Moore...

[grok]

52. Ahh we all can choke the chicken.

Have done so many a time when my favorite porn star did not respond to my pleadings.

I didn't know you knew Beck so well.

Pray tell, did you choke the chicken for him so you obviously would know?

Just askin'!!!!!!!!! ;-)

[Seedersandleechers]

54. That is why

some people are saying Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in the 90's. Makes sense to me.

[Kablooie]

56. When does it cross over into the "shouting FIRE" category?

[Faryn Balyncd]

59. dupe - - self delete

[Faryn Balyncd]

60. After the Knoxville church murderer is inspired by O'Reilly & Hannity's books --> -->FOX HIRES BECK!

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/



Have these evil bastards at Fox not learned?


Or have they learned indeed?

[DailyGrind51]

61. Be careful, Glenn, Moore is an NRA member!

[Cha]

63. Dumb shit motherfucker..

is too gawddamn dumb to debate so the bloodsucker wants to kill kill kill:silly:

[progressivebydesign]

64. WTF? That man is dangerous. I knew that he was vile, but was cleaned up for TV.

I'm sure the folks in Mount Vernon would love to know about this.

[frogmarch]

68. By saying that, Beck is planting the idea

in the heads of his fellow loonies, hoping that at least one of them will try it and succeed.

Why is Beck still on the air? He's even too bizarre for Faux.

[kiranon]

70. I fear you may be right. n/t

[windoe]

71. Under state criminal codes, which vary by state,

it is an offense to knowingly utter or convey a threat to cause death or bodily harm to any person.

Clear important boundaries are being crossed, with apparent lack of consequences. Social standards are enabled to erode, as long as these privileged personalities get away with what the rest of us cannot.

There are 2 groups of people in this country, the insiders who get away with death threats and murder, and the rest of us who have to obey stop signs and speed limits.

[readmoreoften]

73. Terroristic death threats. Is that what passes for editorial these days?

Cuz lord knows editorial is what passes for news.

[HughMoran]

74. I'm reccing this so that any federal authorites who scan DU will see this

This is a sign of criminal insanity. He needs a padded cell.

[bushisanidiot]

75. Beck needs to be in jail for this threat.

.

[troubledamerican]

76. Bill O'Reilly: "Kill Michael Moore" and "shoot Franken in the head"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x4913

O'Reilly also has said on other occasions that he'd like to have a "duel" with Moore like Hamilton vs. Burr so he could enjoy "Shooting Michael Moore in the head".

This quote is now impossible to locate on the Internet. Because a Right-Wing filmmaker released a film called "Shooting Michael Moore" which effectively hijacked the keywords in O'Reilly's quote. (Cue: DU Coincidence Theorists).

This quote can be found in the Farenheit 9/11 issue interview with Michael Moore of the magazine "Entertainment Weekly". Moore comments on the O'Reilly quote. Check your local library.

[Douglas Carpenter]

80. it just keeps getting weirder and weirder, doesn't it?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

81. Beck couldn't kill Michael Moore...

Beck is far too big a pussy to do something like that himself.

I don't think he'd even have the balls to pay somebody else to do it.

[ejpoeta]

82. glen beck likes to talk a big game, but he seems more like a wuss!

the bully that stands there with three big guys behind him threatening a kid half his size... but if you caught him by himself, he couldn't probably even get a shot in.... he's one of those bullies that would tell you he wanted to fight you, but if you actually accepted he would find a way to get out of it and say he was just kidding... he doesn't want to hurt you. if you remember a christmas story, where that kid harrassed the boys mercilessly, but once they stood up to him he got his ass kicked.... that is glen beck.