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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 12:49 PM
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"I'm Done. My Child's Life Can't Wait on Another Speech or Vain Hopes for Bipartisanship"
I'm Done. My Child's Life Can't Wait on Another Speech or Vain Hopes for Bipartisanship
by Onomastic

Wed Sep 09, 2009 at 02:12:25 AM PDT

Thirty three years ago this coming December, I was sitting in a hospital bed, holding my first born child. I was in awe, mezmorized by this amazing gift. The intelligence in his eyes, the sweet smell of his skin, the seashell curves of his tiny ears. He was all things wonderous. Then the curtains at the foot of the bed suddenly parted and there was my baby's Pediatrician. He just stood for a moment looking at us. Then he began to speak and said there was a problem. Not to worry. He knew the best specialist in the country. He was right about the specialist. Terribly and completely wrong about the worry. My boy even gave the world renown surgeon a run for the money and a few more grey hairs. We pushed the frontiers of medicine to save him and consequently helped others. It was a long, painful process. Mutiple surgeries, multiple tests and procedures, all of which took place in a society unable or unwilling to understand. And still does not.

...................

It's taken well over thirty years for me to arrive here. Years of barely dared hopes and far too many disappointments. Last November after months of excitement, faith and effort, I voted with real hope, only to see it slowly whittled away once again. Tonight, there'll be another speech on health care delivered by a President to Congress. But it will take more than one speech, no matter how elegantly put, to change my dismay and heartbreak. It will take far, far, more than calls for bi-partisanship to make me trust again.

I won't sacrifice my child up to maybe or someday or if we only had more "real" democrats. I won't risk his life on trigger's or insurance company profits. I won't agree to mandated slavery to insurance companies for anyone. I can never find common ground with someone who would seek agreement with those who would discard my son's life. And that means I'm having difficulty agreeing with the man I voted for and his insistence on bi-partisanship.

My son's working and going to school. He's been on the Dean's List since he went back to school as a non-traditional student. He'll be 33 this December. In January he'll be appling to nursing schools. He wants to be a Pediatric Nurse, because he knows what it's like to be a small child in the hospital, scared and in pain. He knows what it's like to be a teeenager and struggle to fit in. He's going to be a great nurse. He'll make a huge difference in the children's and their families' lives. But he might not be doing it here. My god-son and his good friend lives over seas. My son has an open invitation to come over. We're all ready talking about him moving to a country that has a place for people like him. That knows there's much to value in a human life beyond health care costs. A country that perhaps knows courage and worth when it sees it. Unfortunately, we can't wait another sixteen years for America to be that country. We can't wait two years. We can't wait one. His life is on the line, like its always been. We've hoped and waited long enough.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/9/779061/-Im-Done.-My-Childs-Life-Cant-Wait-on-Another-Speech-or-Vain-Hopes-for-Bipartisanship-Update
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:00 PM
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1. K&R
:cry:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:00 PM
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2. I am absolutely amazed at the US at the moment......
And I have no hope left for the world.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:50 PM
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12. you and me both. I am bereft of hope. my only consolation is that
I am old and won't have eighty years to bear the disappointment. I actually remember when America was America.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:40 AM
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58. make that 3 of us n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:51 AM
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71. Four. nt
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:16 PM
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27. I have plenty of hope for the world...
...the US on the other hand is in for a long hard road to the bottom, I fear.

What we are seeing and experiencing is exactly what the UK went through in the 70's and 80's. Of course they were still suffering under saving the worlds ass during WW2 (along with the USSR).

They suffered. We sat on our asses for 2 years while the world paid the price and then we came in at the last moment and took a bow. Not to denegrate the US's incredible contributions, but we sacrificed little by comparison. So the UK had reasons to suffer in the 70's and 80's when their empire, with a hearty shove in the ass by Thatcherism, fell to pieces.

What is our excuse? Did we stop Nazism? Did we free the death camps? No, we started an unjustified war, tortured, and deregulated financial markets. Our sin is hubris and it is biting our asses.

Will the US ever have a health care system (and lets be clear - there is no comprehensive or even basic health care system in the US - none)? Maybe, but it won't happen while any of us are alive and it won't happen until our entire financial system has been looted and destroyed that the crooks haved moved overseas to a house next to the Cheney's of some other war profiteers.

Hope in the world. There is plenty. Hope in the US. Zero.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:46 AM
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69. I wish I didn't...but I agree.
Its gonna be a long hard road back up....the ride to the bottom certainly gathering momentum.

Hope for the world...yes. The way the US is going...not so much anymore.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:05 PM
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3. Powerful testimonial. k&r n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:07 PM
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4. Amen. Beautiful piece .Well said.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:10 PM
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5. Get him the fuck out of this country.
Thank God he's got someplace civilized that he can go to. I wish I did.
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:22 PM
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10. Where can we go? How do you get a job once there?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:27 PM
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11. The OP said that the subject of the piece has a place to go.
Edited on Wed Sep-09-09 02:28 PM by Crunchy Frog
Most of the rest of us aren't that fortunate.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:11 PM
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6. "I can never find common ground with someone
who would seek agreement with those who would discard my son's life."

Very powerful statement.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:59 PM
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7. POWERFUL - I hope she sent this to the damned White House. n/t
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:17 PM
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15. Rest assured that one would never get past Rahm's "In" box.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:01 PM
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17. Rahm - one word:
USELESS.

Why Obama ever picked him - I'll never know.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:20 PM
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31. I know why he picked Rahm.
But I am not up to fighting the Obamanista's tonight by saying it.:(
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:10 AM
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43. go ahead--say it
because i can't figure it out other than he's like obama's own personal hit man/chicago mafia guy/personal secret service or something--

i mean, i really can't figure out why obama wants/needs him around
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:55 AM
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66. Deleted message
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:04 AM
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67. Um, wow n/t
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:06 PM
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8. Jesus, that is powerful
Wow. Just wow.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:14 PM
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9. Powerful K&R nt
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:54 PM
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13. Outstanding. Thanks so much for sharing.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:06 PM
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14. K&R
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:45 PM
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16. This just says it all, doesn't it? n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:06 PM
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18. When you start your count at Reagan then you're bound to be disappointed
because NOTHING has even been plausible to get this done. Seriously, nothing.

I'm not trying to be a dick but you have to be based somewhere in the neighborhood or realistic.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:31 AM
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63. Having begun fighting the Insurance Companies in the 80's
Reagan seems like a great place to start, and part of why change has not been 'plausible' is because those of us engaging in this fight were left largely alone by those who should have been fighting by our sides, not just elected officials, but rank and files voters.
When did you first lift a finger to oppose this deadly system? Ever once carry a sign or make a speech or even make a phone call, back in the 80's or 90's? When the Insurance Industry Obama thinks 'deserve' profit were sitting by and denying coverage to AIDS patients, denying the very existence of that global health crisis, what did you do about it?
Not trying to be a dick, but newcomers to an old fight are not as informed as those who, like the OP have been engaged on these issues for years on end.
Realistic in this realm of conversation occurs in hospitals and at deathbeds. Not in sniping rhetoric. Reality is a freshly dug grave, not a turn of phrase. This is not a competition it is a life or death actuality.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:32 PM
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72. +1
greed has had plenty of time to plant its representatives in Congress. I don't believe Obama is one of them, nor do i believe he is a chess master, but I am worried that as smart and passionate as he is, it's not going to be enough.

Thanks for being there, fighting them in the 80s and 90s.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:48 PM
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76. I'm just saying that starting a struggle on any social or economic issue
at the advent of Reagan is a sure-fire recipe for frustration. The OP started trying to climb out of a hole at the same time that it was being enlarged under their feet with ZERO hope of success. It has to be beyond frustrating but conditions were going in the polar opposite direction for the kind of policies that were needed.

I understand being at the end of the rope but giving up at the point when the very first crack appears just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:33 PM
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19. K&R n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 05:33 PM
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20. Thank you kpete, you are also telling my story when you tell your
sons.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 06:26 PM
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21. K&R
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:10 PM
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22. I to have been too waiting. and don't understand why
President Obama discussed some mechanism in his plan that will give insurance co. four years to adjust to this new plan. I don't know what it is that American's will have to wait for in order for the insurance co. to adjust, but I have to ask why? Why do we have to wait?
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:39 AM
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68. yeah really.... so what do we do while we wait?? excuse me, mr. cancer there
starting to grow in my body somewhere.... could you just hold off a couple of years until I can get some healthcare??? thanks.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:46 PM
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23. My health cannot wait one more year. I am convinced I have to figure out how to leave this Country.
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ThorDem Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:11 PM
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38. It's over
The country's done. Put a fork in it. It's undignified and so forth, but we ignored every single bit of advice Washington ever gave us. Failed child I guess.
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ThorDem Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:56 PM
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24. We're headed to Canadia
ASAP. Well, just as soon as I can convince the partner.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:18 PM
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28. Canadian here.
Have an in. Be an investor or have an essential skill. Or marry a citizen.

Chances are if you don't have one of these in place then you will only be a tourist.
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ThorDem Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:07 PM
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37. I've got 69 points
for a visa.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:12 AM
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44. "essential" skill? what would that be? n/t
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:40 PM
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73. We're outta here too.
Our lease is up at the end of October, and reprehensor and I are out of options. Fortunately, we have the mother and father-in-law's basement outside Edmonton to head to.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:58 PM
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25. K&R
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:14 PM
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26. PLEASE send this to the President.
Best response EVER!!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:18 PM
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29. I can't say that I haven't thought of the same thing
I am not sure if I am up to the fight when not only are our ideals shot down by the other side, but our party.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:19 PM
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30. !
It says it all.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:21 PM
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32. I didn't feel like reading it: could someone tell me what they plan to do instead? n/t
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:38 PM
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33. I hear you...but not very well..because I am suffering from an ear infection....
and I have no insurance so I can see a dr.
The last infection ended up costing me over 400 dollars..for a frickin ear infection! (I kept having to go back..wrong medication and then not enough of the right one)
I also ended up having the bill go to collections which slammed my credit ratings before I could finally pay it off (I was not able to pay the bill fast enough I guess for the hospital)
As I am a military widow I do have tricare...but...(and this is a big but)...as my husband is dead and not active duty...the navy hospitals will not treat me...I have to go to a private civilian dr and then pay the first $150. of each visit myself...on my tiny widow's pension.
This means choosing between seeing a dr or eating all month.
If congress had not voted to steal widows and orphans social security I might have been able to have medical care anyways...but....since they will not allow us to have "more than one check from the government"...we have to chose either social security OR military retirement. Never mind my husband and I both worked over 20 years outside of the military...AFTER he served honorably for 20 years, won a purple heart, was shot, had his face blown off and had to have it rebuilt including receiving a new eyeball and a new nose.
I cant wait for health care reform either...and unless it is single payer...I don't see how I will be able to see a dr when I need one.
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MissPuddy Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:39 PM
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34. Glad to see not everyone was swayed by fancy language...He sold out!
It looks like mandatory health insurance and not CARE...He was vague about the Public Option that only 5% would want..It will probably be shitty.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:01 PM
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36. I beg to differ....
He didn't "sell out" anyone, except maybe those who want him to fail. IMHO
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MissPuddy Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:11 PM
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39. I voted for Obama...He is coming close to selling out to insurance
I want him to succeed because we ALL succeed...Unfortunately, he sold out the "Medicare for All" idea and sided with the corporations.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:46 AM
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46. Medicare was never his idea!!
It was the hope of many who want "ALL or nothing at ALL"! This was never realistically on the table. It was something that Dennis wanted.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 11:04 PM
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41. When lives of loved ones depend upon his succeeding it is ugly to imply they wish him to fail. IMHO.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:49 AM
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47. I didn't imply that those folks wanted him to fail!!!
Re read my post. The only people who he "sold out" where those that wanted him to fail.......meaning the far right crazies! Get my meaning now?
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:42 PM
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74. Picking Emanuel was something I was willing to overlook.
Selling out our gay brothers and sisters was something else. Now putting off healthcare to get along with a bunch of troglodytes. WTG, Barry.

I'm fucking DONE.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:40 PM
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35. K& R
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:28 PM
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40. I can't imagine the fear and frustration and worry of a child
with health care issues, but I can imagine the fear and frustration of being ill and having health insurance that won't pay.

I can't wait one year either.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 11:36 PM
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42. K&R. n/t
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:26 AM
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45. I don't believe one word of this story.
There isn't a single detail. No mention of what disease or condition she is talking about. No mention of what country he is going to, or how he might live once there. The statement about how "no one undestands" about her son is just ridiculous. What, there are no compassionate people in America? A lot of emotionally manipulative generalities. And that quote from her son? Please. No one on earth talks like that. The whole thing is an obviously fabricated yarn designed to undermine faith in the president. And you all fell for it, because you are a bunch of whiny, self-hating, self-sabotaging pains in the ass.

This is why I stopped coming to this site.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:54 AM
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48. I thought it was just me,
and I'm so tired of being called cynical, I no longer bother to post when I smell a rat.

Well, sometimes, anyway.

Her son is on the Dean's List, but is planning on going to nursing school? So, he's in college, but has other plans?

He's thirty-three?

Too vague, too general, too heart-jerky.

But I think it sucks to call people "a bunch of whiny, self-hating, self-sabotaging pains in the ass." That's showing your issues, which are obviously NOT bogus.

Call out a fraudulent OP, but why denigrate other DUers who believed it?

That also sucks.......................
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:54 AM
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49. So, why are you here now?


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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:38 AM
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54. They're not; they're reading & posting telepathically. n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:56 AM
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50. LOL "faith in the president"
:rofl:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 01:00 AM
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52. I don't either !
Some here are worse than the talking heads on TV. Woe is me, boo fuckin hoo!! Rome wasn't built in a day, and it took G.W. 8 years to ruin America, and they want Obama to "fix it" in 8 months. Bunch of cry babies! (and I am a far left liberal Democrat) I call bullshit, and I'm sick to death of it! This is as bad, if not worse than the guy that yelled out tonight, calling the President a liar!! At least he was the opposition in PUBLIC view. Those who post this crap on here are doing it anonomously, hiding behind their computers. Shame on all of you! (from a 70 yr. old Gramma) The origional poster evidently didn't know that none of this will take effect for a few years I guess. This alone makes the story MOOT!
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MtUpWithWngsAsEgles Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:23 AM
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62. Thank God!
I wasn't the only one that saw through that.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:35 AM
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65. +10
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:57 AM
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51. Contact the Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats immediately!
Some Independents, too!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:55 AM
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53. You can count me among those who has had enough.
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 02:57 AM by TheWatcher

The American people, for the most part, can no longer be bothered to be Free.

They are too invested in the "Football Team Mentality" and this fake Political System that is nothing more than a false paradigm that guarantees them nothing but more of the same, and a change of the Bird-Cage Liner every 4-8 years.

They either want to Be Ruled, Owned, or get just enough Crumbs from the Table to allow them to feel good and believe in their false paradigm, and Zombie out with their favorite distractions (TV, Football, Junk Culture, Beer-Swilling, Mall Shopping, Fast Food Gobbling, Debt Consuming, etc, etc, etc.)

They would rather Die For A Lie than Fight For The Truth.

Follower? Lock-Stepper? Group-Thinker? Herd Goer? Uninformed? Dumbed Down? Propaganda Drinker?

You're a True American.

Intellectual? Free-Thinker? Question Authority? Question ANYTHING? Analytical? Think For Yourself? Want Accountability? Like The Rule Of Law and The Constitution? Firm Believer in Civil Rights, Civil Liberties, Checks and Balances, and REAL Change? Hate War Without End? Tired of being ruled by Banksters, Wall Street and Corporations? Want Representative Government? Want Representation, Not Exploitation? Want Health Care and not Health Insurance? Progressive?

You're The Enemy. And You're No Longer Welcome here.

Enough is Enough.

My Country Tis' Of Thee?

My Country.....WHERE ART THOU?

When they turn the pages of history
When these days have passed long ago
Will they read of us with sadness
For the seeds that we let grow
We turned our gaze
From the castles in the distance
Eyes cast down
On the path of least resistance

The hypocrites are slandering
The sacred halls of truth
Ancient nobles showering
Their bitterness on youth
Cant we find
The minds that made us strong?
Cant we learn
To feel what's right and what's wrong?

What's Wrong?

Cities full of hatred
Fear and lies
Withered hearts
And cruel, tormented eyes
Scheming demons
Dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude
And scoffing at the wise

Cant we raise our eyes
And make a start?

Cant we find the minds
To lead us closer to the heart.....

Rush- A Farewell To Kings
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:41 AM
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55. Face it, this country is a big factory farm
and we dehumanized "consumers" are the livestock.

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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:01 AM
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56. Reminds me that I wanted to watch Meet the Parents...
"Jack Byrnes: Greg's in medicine too.
Bob Banks: What field?
Greg Focker: Nursing.
Bob Banks: Ha ha ha ha. No, really, what field are you in?
Greg Focker: Nursing. "

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:16 AM
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57. Yes, many of our son's, daughters, family and friends can not wait.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:53 AM
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59. What is the specific legislation you need that your child's life depends on?
does it have to include a strong public option and if so why specifically for you child's life?
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MtUpWithWngsAsEgles Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:20 AM
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60. Is it just me?
I don't get it. How is your son's life on the line?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:10 AM
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64. Do you really need the graphic details to understand?
It is painfully obvious to those of us with basic comprehension skills that her son suffers from a lifelong illness that he was born with. Why the exact nature of his illness is important is not something I am comprehending.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:22 AM
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61. K & R
It break my heart that the country is going to lose the kind of people it cannot afford to, but I understand.

I completely understand and you have my blessings.









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AncientAtBirth666 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:48 AM
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70. Excellent idea!
I hope more people start doing that.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:43 PM
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75. hostages to the corporate theives
that's what we all are.

Wonder how one gets out.....
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nightgaunt Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 02:30 PM
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77. Kucinich on Democracy Now said it all
It was a very good speech but it simply empowers the wrong powers, i.e. Big Pharama, Health Care Ind. and their ilk. Not the rank-and-file who are going to be slaved to them by law! We live in a country in transition from a republic to an inverted totalitarian state and now to a full theocracy in the making. "God will heal you" and those who don't will be culled by the barbaric Social Darwinism of the elites and their bully boys. Where might makes the (wrong) right. Where if you don't have the money then something is wrong with you. God blesses the rich, can't you tell? That is how they see it. They have been a generation or more raised in the use the rod to punish the child anti-Dr.Spock of James Dobson which has produced some vile people who believe violence is the way to solve problems and shut up those "willful children" who have their own minds. They want people who are "hard, intrepid and cruel" to enemies and fight their wars and "cleanse the earth" of the rest of us who aren't part of "God's plan" as they see it. If you can't afford to live then you can die and make room for those who do and can. Ayn Rand was an atheist but her ethos echos their particular Wrath of God kind of theology. That the psychopath is their ideal human, a "superman" because they do not feel for others, they make their own rules and are restrained by nothing but their own powers. "Morals are for men not gods" and they are the elect of the Supreme One. This is part of their ideal world they want for all of us. A hard Mirror universe (Star Trek orginal) of empire and all the elements we are told are wrong are right by them--pick your poison on that. They are absolved from the sin they do due to "special dispensation."
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