Do the Dems have the 50 votes (plus Biden) to get a public option thru Senate?

[WI_DEM]

I believe it will pass the house. Will we have enough votes in the senate if we have to go the reconciliation route? anybody know the latest numbers?

[vi5]

1. But doing that would be mean....

and people might say things about them.

We can't have that, can we?

[mike_c]

2. my impression-- not necessarily correct-- is that there are enough...

...senate votes to pass a bill with a strong public option, that virtually ANY good bill will likely pass if if gets to the floor for a vote. It will generate a huge amount of hot air, but at the end of the day it will pass. The real problem is breaking a republican filibuster. I don't think there are nearly enough votes for that, because the blue dogs and just plain corporate prostitute dems will oppose cloture and take the easy way out. They don't have to vote against health care reform if they can help keep it from from coming to a vote.

[DebJ]

13. So make them DO the fillibuster. Make Grassley stand on the

floor for days on end. They can stand and bark until they drop. Then hold the vote. Make them do it.

[rhett o rick]

3. I think there are still a lot of if's, yet. If the President can persuad the Blue Dogs.

If some repukes step out of step. If Harry Reid will help. Lots of if's yet.

[AlinPA]

4. We are dreaming if we think Harry Reid will help. No way that he will lead. nt

[depakid]

5. Harry's up for re-election, and his numbers don't look too good- so if he doesn't

Buh bye...

[rhett o rick]

12. And hello Republican replacement. The Democrats wont challenge him. nt

[deaniac21]

6. It may be called public option but it won't be.

[Laelth]

8. That's the most likely scenario, yes.

A useless public option and a colossal, Federal bail-out of the health insurance cabal passed on the backs of the struggling American middle class and the uninsured.

Great. :sarcasm:

:dem:

-Laelth

[ThomWV]

7. Don't even need Reconciliation, let them Filibuster until they wear out.

Sooner or later they would have to give up and let it go to a vote. I don't know why no one wants to let the Republicans stand up and look like the asshats they are.

[Davis_X_Machina]

9. yes. n/t

[librechik]

10. There are about 40 or so votes in the Senate for HC with the public Option

[Zorra]

11. They'd better, or heads are gonna roll. n/t

[rhett o rick]

15. What does that mean? We are going to remove them via the primary.

Not likely.

[TransitJohn]

14. There's not going to be any public option.

You're mad and naive if you think there will be. The President punted on that. Count on an individual mandate, though...that'll survive intact.

[rhett o rick]

16. He said public option. Did you listen to his speech? nt

[tkmorris]

17. Sure he said the words "public option"

He did not however say that it would be in the bill.

[rhett o rick]

19. He said, "But an additional step we can take to keep insurance companies honest is by making a

not-for-profit public option available in the insurance exchange." But he isn't writing the bill so it may not be in there. He was explaining what he wanted.

[TransitJohn]

18. There will not be a public option

that I'll be allowed to leave my employer sponsored plan to buy into. Satisfied now? I don't even think there will be one at all.

[rhett o rick]

20. I was pointing out what he said, not what will be in the bill. Don't take it out on me.

I support a strong public option. I was surprised that he even mentioned it, but he did.

[Better Believe It]

21. Yes. Check out the latest whip count.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8645402