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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:33 PM
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I don't want Health INSURANCE I WANT HEALTHCARE
the longer I listen the more it sounds like B.S.

Sounds like there is more interest in keeping Insurance Companies alive.

I'm tired of this.

We don't need health insurance.

Tax credits.. give me a break.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:35 PM
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1. Not much in life is free and unlimited - no one is lining up to give your free and unlimited health
care
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:37 PM
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3. tell that to Germany, France, Canada.
Nice to see we are going to keep giving money to insurance companies.. for what?????
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:43 PM
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5. Canada has national health insurance
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:44 PM
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6. The GOP has been telling me that for years
when you pay taxes its not free. When you help the poor your not giving away something for free your being human.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:55 PM
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7. We're looking for a system that's paid for the way it is done in civilized countries
It might mean a tax, but we won't be paying premiums and out of pockets. Most of us would probably save money with such a tax.

What we're looking for is a system where we don't have to worry about the cost before we can get care. HR3200 allows way too much in out of pocket expenses. People will still die for lack of timely care and they will not get care because they still won't be able to afford it.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:08 PM
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8. Single-payer advocates aren't looking for FREE and UNLIMITED anything
we want our tax dollars to be used to pay health care providers directly for health care for EVERYONE, rather than being forced to pay some bloated middleman for the opportunity to "maybe" have access to it - if it's not "experimental", if it's not for a "pre-existing condition", if it's fucking covered at all.

How much in the way of math skills could you possibly need to understand the difference between all of us paying taxes for health care and all of us being forced to pay insurance premiums to for-profit companies which (helloooo) are not in the business of providing any health services AT ALL? All they do is (grudgingly and only when there's no other option) pay a portion of the fee for whatever medical services they deem worthy of being provided to the insured.

Why can't YOU understand that no one is likely to form an orderly line to be fleeced by the greedy fucks who engineered this corrupt power grab that has been disingenously labeled "health care reform"?

Talk about getting something for nothing - have a good look at the health INSURANCE industry why don't you?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:36 PM
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2. Creating a massive new revenue stream for insurance cos, et. al.
was the plan all along, IMO.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:09 PM
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9. Yep. sure looks that way to me
Next up: privatizing social security for the criminal degenerate gamblers on Wall Street.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:41 PM
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4. Glad I can greet Obama in MN
Many in MN support Single Payer Health care.

It is on the DFL (Democrat Farmer Labor) Party's platform that we support Universal Single Payer Healthcare.

So come visit us President Obama. WE would like to let you know what we support even thought some of our Congress members have forgotten.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:23 PM
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10. NO! Someone must make BIG BUCKS playing Middleman!
It's the American way. And Obama likes it that way.

Triangulator in chief. William Jefferson Obama.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:47 PM
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11. Then I suggest you look into becoming a citizen of a different country for the next 25 to 30
years.
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