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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:53 PM
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I was horribly saddened today
My granddaughter is 6. We live in a red county, she attends a very red school. Obviously, they didn't show his speech yesterday.
We try not to burden the kids with politics. They are too young to be part of this horrificly partisan brawl that is politics today. I never badmouthed Bush or McCain while they were in the limelight in her presence. It is difficult to teach tolerance when you are intolerant.
So tonight, I sit down to watch the speech.
My granddaughter comes running into the living room, looks at the TV, puts her fingers in her ears and starts screaming "LALALALALALA".
I was mortified of course.
I asked her what she was doing?
She told me she didn't want to hear HIM speak.
The first thing I did was make her say his name respectfully and told her we didn't tolerate anything else.
I asked her where she heard and saw that behavior. Of course she didn't say, but I know in my heart it came from the little school full of intolerant redneck's kids.:(
I am hoping that she didn't hear it from adults because I told her that we respect the President and we listen to what he has to say, whether we agree or not and I would not tolerate the behavior she exhibited.
I also told her that ANYONE that told her to act like I just witnessed was nothing but a "crazy".
I hope I don't get a call from her teacher tomorrow...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:55 PM
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1. You did right, and your granddaughter's teacher would be way out of line to attack you for it
In these times, progressive families are, in some cases, the only defense on right wing lies.
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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:56 PM
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2. Good on you
It might be okay if you did hear from her teacher tomorrow - you may well teach her a thing or two. :cheers:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:58 PM
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3. Don't wait for the call. YOU CALL.
YOU ask what kind of unpatriotic disrespect is being taught in those classrooms. YOU DO IT.

How dare they send a child home with that attitude.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:58 PM
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4. I hope you do so you can tell him/her that such actions will not tolerated
If it came from your granddaughter's classroom, the behavior should have been stopped by the teacher, regardless of political leanings. You need to find out just what happened yesterday. That was just plain rude and disrepectful of the office of the Presidency.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:18 PM
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5. Well done, grandmother.
:applause:

I always told my kids, some people may choose to act that way, but WE don't. We are better than that. And today, they are both very centered, very fair young adults. My other favorite phrase, and it also worked with my fifth grade boys when I was teaching special ed.: "There's no honor in that." They knew instinctively what it meant. It took the smirk right off their faces.

Just talk and comment occasionally to her in a general way about good behavior and respect for all people as you and she watch tv or movies. She may never know she is being "nudged". She is showing a typical behavior, and just needs some gentle, consistent guidance. Books work well, too. Ask your librarian for age appropriate stories about the qualities you want to reinforce. If you are reading to her, her listening level should be beyond her reading level.

Again, kudos. :)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:21 PM
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6. You know what to do, Grandma
She will listen to you and I have faith you will guide her to a fair assessment of her president.
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:22 PM
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7. Is there any chance she got it from her parents?
Not implying anything but it does sound like the kind of thing a kid would get from mom or dad...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:29 PM
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9. Um no.
We are all actually pretty tolerant people.
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:44 PM
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23. Okay, good; it was just that I've seen some examples of what I was asking
my own mom didn't communicate very well with my nieces and nephews.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:30 PM
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10. Kids drag all kinds of ideas and attitudes in from their day to try out at home.
And...at school. :) You have to be prepared because they are like little sponges, and they feel compelled to wring themselves out.
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 03:45 PM
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24. I remember my own sponge days.
;-)


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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:28 PM
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8. You Handled It Well
Don't worry, you handled it just fine. Kids (particulary elementary-age ones) pick up all kinds of nonsense from school from dislike of the president to tasteless sexual jokes. My 3-yr-old came up to me last month and out of nowhere used the F-word. :crazy: He was totally shocked by our reaction, having no idea that he had done something "bad."
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM
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11. I have only one reaction to that:
:rofl:
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:53 PM
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12. Umm....
Yeah, I guess it is something to laugh about now. It is truly amazing what small children pick up!
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:16 PM
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16. Exactly. And, as I mention above, they are like sponges.
I'm in Colorado Springs, luckily in a bluer enclave, definitely blue violet. Good luck!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:13 PM
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13. It is sad because you know that in her heart she's still
innocent because she's just trying to fit in with her peers and there's can be no denying that this attitude is normal among her peers.

It's sad because it's always a confusing event to a young child to suddenly discover that what brings her praise and acceptance with her peers, got a correction, which even though it was not, probably felt like a scolding to her.

I feel for her but good that it happened early on if it had to happen at all. I believe you have just evelated her life to the good forever because now she has a consciousness outside of her peer group that will make her more advanced
than them. She will stand out the rest of her school career for having her own mind. Well done.
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kalli007 Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:14 PM
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15. On another forum
a fellow teacher received a note from a parent stating that Obama's name was never to be used in her childs presence, and she would be absent from any lesson including references to him.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:47 PM
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19. welcome to DU
And

:wow:

Poor kid.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:14 PM
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14. That's why I *do* talk to my kids about politics...
in red areas, if you don't, someone else will.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:18 PM
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17. In some cases home schooling might really be the best option
If one can arrange it.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:19 PM
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18. Oh gosh
"I told her that we respect the President and we listen to what he has to say, whether we agree or not "

I taught my daughter we don't respect the President, and I tended to change the channel if he was on tv. (during the bush years)

I don't think it's in me to teach anyone that they should respect a person just because they are president. What if McCain was elected, had a heart attack, and Palin was president?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:55 PM
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20. You don't talk ideology with 5-6 year olds
It isn't a concept they can understand, and you might be surprised at how much kids WORRY about things that they see you worry about.
Make no mistake, we didn't embrace ANYTHING that the bush did--in fact, I couldn't even watch him on TV. However, I never disparaged him to her. When she asked who it was, I simply said it was the President and moved along, not offering any other information or opinions.
Kids don't need the stress. They don't need to be indoctrinated into political ideology. You can only hope that how you live and the things you do reflects into them to guide them. We feed hungry people, clothe people who have no clothes, and help others where we can.
Certainly that will guide her much better than hating others and disrespecting others.
While I might be quite opinionated here, I am a relatively calm and low-key person. I don't look for conflict and rarely engage--unless provoked to the point I cannot walk away.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:40 AM
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22. We have different perspectives
Explicitly teaching a child that they should respect and look up to a person simply because he's been elected to something IS indoctrination, in my book, and one of the most dangerous forms of it.

I think we (both parties) really have lost sight of some basics - the president is not royalty, no matter which party he belongs to, he's a public servant. If you put the president next to a migrant worker and ask which has the more noble job, I don't know what I'd say. The president has larger responsibilities to more people, but he's also playing a game of continually selling out and compromising those responsibilities so as to get more reelection money.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:02 PM
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21. Truly disheartening
The only way we can know if we agree or disagree is to listen, read and pay attention.

She is fortunate to have you in her life and it's great that you were there to guide her during such an impressionable time of her life.

Brava

:applause:
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