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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:21 PM
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Obama for single payer once, then he dropped it
http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/11/barack-obama-was-for-single-payer-health-care-before-he-was-against-it/

ah I think more people should watch him waver on these videos
Then:during his candidacy
“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

Now:that hes in power

‘I Have Not Said That I Was a Single-Payer Supporter’……`I believe it would be too disruptive’

looks like a lot of flippety flopping.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:23 PM
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1. He's worried about insurance execs, etc. losing their jobs.
Which would, naturally, mean losing their health care.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:24 PM
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2. what bothers me more is seeing so many Dems selling out to compromise with big insurance companies
and I dont mean just the politicians.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:27 PM
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4. Apparently, while most people want single-payer, most people also like the current system
(Someone told me the quote about people liking the current system several minutes ago)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:26 PM
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3. Critics might be right; the convoluted nature of this plan - it might indeed fail.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:28 PM
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5. Apperently his views have evolved as he learned more about the issue
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:29 PM
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6. Id say DEvolved is more like it. nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:30 PM
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7. It's called reality.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:31 PM
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8. reality means selling out to corporate whores and big business interests?
okay.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:58 PM
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10. Reality means that you live in the US of A, based on capitalism. There is no way that anybody is
going to go from a for-profit industry to a single-payer, universal system in a few months time. A strong public option is a good first step to getting there over several more decades.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:07 PM
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14. that is true....
....if we hire capitalists, we have to expect capitalism.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:12 PM
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17. It's called being sold out for corporate interests
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:21 PM
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21. That's right JVS. Say it like it is.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:39 PM
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9. k&r for the truth ... even about one of our own. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:00 PM
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11. He's a realist
Single Payer was never ever going to happen. He's giving us what is possible.

And seriously, Breitbart? You go there? For Bob's sake, why?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:03 PM
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12. its a video on youtube
doesnt matter where its from..he said it.
and he sold out.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:08 PM
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15. I know it's a video
I know that he said this in the past. I feel the same way. I would love to have single payer but I am also a member of the reality-based community. I know the difference between possible and impossible. If I wanted to waste my vote and my time, I would have supported Kucinich.


I'm just wondering why that site is linked here by a DUer. Breitbart is Drudge's hateful student. You know this.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:11 PM
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16. below the beltway
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:13 PM
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18. I've seen it
I saw it when he originally said it.

That doesn't counter the fact that single payer was never going to happen and that Obama is giving us what is possible.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:13 PM
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19. Fuck what he's giving us. I'd rather things remain as they are.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:16 PM
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20. Well, I wouldn't
I have a child that will never be eligible for health insurance if things continue as is. I will never be able to afford any health insurance and the public option proposed by president Obama is my only hope because frankly, I probably won't live to the age where I will qualify for medicare.

So, there you go.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:04 PM
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13. Shh!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:22 PM
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22. hehe - you haven't changed a bit
I'll be glad when defcon is over so I don't have to read your predictable and bitter tripe.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:54 AM
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23. Oh. It's YOU.
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