Rep. Wilson broke House rules prohibiting use of the word "liar": contact Rules committee here

[Trocadero]

http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Educational/Read.aspx?ID=5

From the "Boot Camp" portion of the GOP's House Committee on Rules:


References to the Senate or Executive Branch

Until the 109th Congress, it was not in order to make certain references to the Senate or individual senators. However, at the beginning of that Congress, the House removed the prohibition on making references to the Senate, leaving only the requirement that debate be confined to the question under debate and avoid “personality.” The precedents of the House allow a wide latitude in criticism of the President, other executive officials, and the government itself. However, it is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.” Similarly, it is not in order to refer to the President as “intellectually dishonest” or an action taken by the President as “cowardly.” References to the Vice President, in spite of his role as President of the Senate, are measured against the standard used for the President rather than prior standards used to govern the Senate.


Categories of Unparliamentary Speech

Defaming or degrading the House
Criticism of the Speaker’s personal conduct
Impugning the motives of another Member
Charging falsehood or deception
Claiming lack of intelligence or knowledge
References to race, creed, or prejudice
Charges related to loyalty or patriotism

Committee on Rules - Republicans

U.S. House of Representatives
1627 Longworth Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

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[BumRushDaShow]

1. K&R

:kick:

[lsewpershad]

57. Why

Do these clowns think they can do or say what they want no matter how wrong, evil, or criminal all they have to do is say "I'm sorry" and all should be well? This clown should be severely reprimanded.

[BayjanDem]

66. No other President

would be treated like this. You may not like the guy, but respect the damn position sheesh.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

81. I wish one of our guys called Bush a liar when given the chance. ...n/t

[tdavis71180]

75. Nail Joe WIlson ass to the wall???!!!

How about we nail Joe Wilson and the rest of the GOP's asses to the wall. He should be bent over Presidents knee and spanked with a pattle. NO screw that he should be tortured by water boarding and ran out of washington. Oh wait, according to Dick Cheny a.k.a dumb fuck number 2,water boarding isn't torture.

[FarPoint]

78. I don't like giving him the "power" and/or media time.

This planned antic by the GOP was their way of distracting the Democratic message for health care.......He is getting way too much attention here and in the media...more than healthcare reform. Think about how this was all planned and organized. GOP Rep.Boehener and Wilson were so very conveniently sitting in the first row.....The GOP Congress had copies of the speech for several days, especially Boehener....it was all completely staged! A Sara Palin kind of trick.

[Mnemosyne]

83. Good call. Welcome to DUI!

:hi:

[FarPoint]

84. Thank you...

I don't post as much as I read. I feel at home here.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

87. too late. he's using video to raise money for his campaign

he should be censured.

“You Lie” and Rep. Wilson’s Twitter Followers
September 10, 2009 in Social Media

Rep. Wilson’s number of followers on Twitter jumped to 8,600 after President Obama’s Wednesday night address, according to The Hill. He also posted a YouTube video here. He linked to the video directly from his Twitter account and the landing page includes the video and a solicitation for contributions to his campaign.

http://politicalactivitylaw.com/?p=5151

[FarPoint]

91. Sounds like you are right.

Too damn bad the media does not think first before they cut loose on a story. They never apply neuro-grey matter to any story anymore. The real story is the "set-up".

[olegramps]

82. what can expect from an in bred Southern bastard that fucks his sister?

These people are just nasty things that you would not want to have at your dinner table. He is the typical Southern vermin, racist crap that dominates the Rebukian Party.

[quiet.american]

2. K&R nt

[PearliePoo2]

3. Nail his ass and do it now

[peace13]

4. k&r

[Horse with no Name]

5. Good find

Send it to Nancy. She is good at cleaning up the table though,lol.

[Cosmocat]

36. Sorry, folks ...

these are REPUBLICAN rules ...

That means that they only apply when they can directly or somehow tangently find a way to hold a democrat accountable for something they say.

These do not apply when it is an R who shoots his or her mouth off ...

[paulsby]

58. nancy knows the rules

she is using her discretion (kind of like prosecutorial discretion) NOT to censure him.

that's her right, although it certainly wouldn't hurt for those who advocate it, to contact her and implore upon her the reasons FOR censure.

[PearliePoo2]

6. turns out he's a Palin Death Panel freak too. nt

[texpatriot2004]

7. Shame on him...in so many ways. nm

[liberal N proud]

8. K&R

[Sherman A1]

9. Thanks for posting.

This will be a project for tomorrow.

[aquart]

10. Anyone else think he's now a Republican presidential contender?

[barbtries]

11. i sent an email

wasn't dennis kucinich forced to apologize for stating the fact that the gwbush administration lied this country into a war in iraq?

[Sparkly]

12. And that's in their own debate, I take it -- not a breach of decorum in a formal address.

He needs to apologize to all Americans.

[marew]

30. To ALL Americans... exactly.

We all had to listen to that obnoxious mouth. If he cannot control himself, he needs to resign from congress NOW!

[NecklyTyler]

70. I will second that

Wilson should resign

[WeDidIt]

13. Just emailed them. Demanded expulsion. n/t

[Sparkly]

15. Sounds appropriate to me!

Children need to see a clear example of harsh punishment for such egregious behavior.

[Progressive_In_NC]

37. Unfortunately, there is a precedent....Repubs boo'd Clinton, Democrats boo'd Bush at SOU....

http://mediamatters.org/research/200502040014

[goclark]

45. I just did as well

[glinda]

14. Done!

[spanone]

16. k&r.....

[USA_1]

17. CENSURE HIM, NOW!!

[TroglodyteScholar]

18. K&R n/t

[struggle4progress]

19. And be sure to tell your own Rep the House should act

[garybeck]

21. these are "Republican Rules" whatever that means

do these rules apply to everyone or just republicans?

[struggle4progress]

25. Looks to me like it's a training page on House rules to help Rs become House-broken

[Budgies Revenge]

29. These rules apply to all house members per....

section 370 of the U.S. House Rules and Manual

http://rules.house.gov/POP/pop0998.htm
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_house_rules_manual&docid=hruletx-22

[DireStrike]

35. I think "republican rules" means

that these rules never apply to anyone.

Except possibly Democrats.

[garybeck]

20. KR

[Hosnon]

22. I'm not comfortable banning such things simply on the floor of the House.

That it was during Obama's speech is what has me so mad.

[garybeck]

23. would you like a heckling chorus every time the President gives a speech?

there have to be some rules

[struggle4progress]

49. Apparently, most members of the House disagree with you, since these are House rules

They are intended to prevent debate from deteriorating too much

[struggle4progress]

50. Apparently, most members of the House disagree with you, since these are House rules:

They are intended to prevent debate from deteriorating too much

[marshall]

24. Maybe he'll claim he has Tourette's

He'd be protected by the ADA.

[DUlover2909]

34. Haha Tourrettes

funny one. :rofl:

[connecticut yankee]

72. Tourette's is nothing to laugh at

I have it and I know.

I'd give anything to get rid of it, but there's nothing I can do.

It's uncontrollable.

[DUlover2909]

74. I wasn't laughing at people that really have the condition.

I was laughing at the notion of the congressman trying to use it as an excuse for his outburst. Sorry about the confusion.

[Turborama]

26. K&R Excellent find!

[troubledamerican]

27. Democrats will "let it slide" because Republicans would do the same thing for a Dem screaming.

Frankly, Harry Reid offends me as much as Republican Wilson.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

28. I am citing this info in my email to my representative demanding censure

[texpatriot2004]

31. Thanks for this post about the Rules. nm

[deacon]

32. k + r n/t

[DUlover2909]

33. I called the number.

:kick: The guy said he'd pass the message along.

[Skidmore]

38. Explains why his apology came so quickly Someone pointed out

the rules to him. Who set up that rule anyway? Some * sycophant who wanted to make the selected one look legitimate back then?

[NoSheep]

39. Sent an email

[quoddy woman]

40. Wilson's outburst

did us all a favor. He showed his ass in a way no one else could have done. Let him stew in his own juice.

[Myrina]

41. Is this the thing that the GOP put into effect in 2001 to protect Dimson?

If so, ain't it a bitch when karma bites ya on the ass? ;-)

[man4allcats]

42. Just called.

Thanks for the link and the phone number. I just called and spoke with a very courteous staffer to whom I read from his own page, the link to which you so kindly provided. Though he didn't ask for it, I gave him my name and my city of residence. I recommended that as per the stated rules I quoted, Mr. Wilson be subjected to disciplinary action. The staffer indicated he would pass the information along. Whether he will or not is another question, but I doubt they can ignore a torrent of calls.

[Stellar]

93. I want him primaried!

I'm giving money to his opponent, Rob Miller.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

[Flyover John]

43. We do it too

We should not be so quick to judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM

[FredStembottom]

46. I watched there was no booing

There was low grumbling that didn't disturb anything.

Thanks for the effort and enjoy your stay!:hi:

[mother earth]

54. Not like this, this was unusual & brazen. He's fringe lunatic.

[Hubert Flottz]

44. Republicans are above the law...

[renman59]

47. Is this Parliament?

Absolutely disrespectful to the POTUS, no doubt. But it was a spicy moment that I had to replay over and over. Pelosi's facial expressions were priceless.
I didn't like Obama's subtle dress down of Hillary and then McCain. You could see her face in later clap-fests she did not want to be there.

[Romulox]

48. You don't run to mommy when somebody calls you a name--you kick their ass.

This is a big part of the problem...

[robertpaulsen]

51. Aim for expulsion, settle on censure.

That's how you put these fuckers in their place.

[Parker CA]

52. Done. K&R!

[sofa king]

53. I have something to say about this.

I've only just learned of the circumstances of this outburst, so I'm sure I don't have all the details. But these rules highlight an important problem in American politics.

First, you'll notice that that short list of guidelines was misused in every way, in letter and spirit, for the past eight years, for the purpose of stifling what turns out to be justifiable doubt about Speaker Hastert's conduct, the motives of other Republican Members of Congress (including Ney, Foley, Cunningham, and on and on and on), the falsehoods and deceptions employed by the Republicans, and the ignorance of those same people. At the same time, those who did have the courage to speak out had their own patriotism questioned.

Almost every major, specific problem facing us today is a result of that criminal behavior: the tanked economy, the amoral wars we're fighting, the untold tens of thousands we murdered and the millions who want vengeance as a result, the billions we stole, and the metric tons of opium product we now control and move. And the larger problems which should have been addressed, global warming, global habitat and fisheries destruction, peak oil, and so on which were not addressed but should have been were hidden behind these same rules of conduct, which are observed generally on our side and exploited entirely by the other.

So maybe it's time to take the gloves off. Maybe it's time to start publicly recounting all of the dirty pool played by the GOP these past five election cycles. Maybe it's time to start calling the liars liars, the shills shills, and the gangsters gangsters. The mask of propriety is useless if it merely serves to conceal the darker principles under which this nation has been so tragically and inefficiently run.

As far as this particular jerk goes, all his outburst has accomplished is turning DU's Eye of Sauron on himself. He's got the (R) behind his name, which means there's a backroom deal, illegal contributions, and a live boy or a dead girl in his closet somewhere. Now we're gonna find it.

[AnnieBW]

55. If a Dem had done that to *Bush

His entire FAMILY would have been shipped off to Gitmo!

[GinaMaria]

56. Remember the outrage over Hillary's expression

during a * speech? At the time R's were furious about it. The times have changed.

[wroberts189]

86. I like your hyperbole... good job .. let me add...

Actually they would have been assassinated by a private corp ... that just changed its name.

[CRojas]

92. Supporting Hillary

Go Hillary 2012

[meowomon]

59. But, isn't it ok if a Rethuglican does it?

[lark]

60. Email - done

demanded censure at the least.

[Serge A Storms]

61. time to move on , don't make him a teabagger's martyr

he's had his 15 minutes lets get down to getting health care done

[asdjrocky]

62. Thank you for this.

[beac]

63. Called and got a snippy woman who said that Nancy Pelosi could do something if she wanted to, but

"we can't do anything."

Pathetic.

I did get RIGHT through though, so I encourage everyone to call as well since so many GOP lines are "busy" today!

[The Hope Mobile]

64. Done! nt

[Rockholm]

65. He screamed it TWICE. The 1st time Pelosi looked over.

[Joey Liberal]

67. My e-mail to the rules committee

I watched the President's speech last night and was appalled by the behavior of Rep. Wilson. If the republican party wants to behave like thugs, please don't do it during a nationally televised speech to a joint session of Congress. At least have the courage to respect the decorum and civility of such an important event.

[Golden Raisin]

68. I think the last 8 years

amply proved that Republicans don't need no stinkin' rules, laws, Constitutions, etc.

[GrimReefa]

69. This is a distraction

We don't need this. The guy is facing nearly universal condemnation for what he did. If you want to be writing to members of the House of Reps, it should be about getting the plan that the President put forward passed, not pointing fingers at some asshole when everyone has already jumped down his throat.

Not to mention that if we keep harping on this, the public may eventually begin to see it as piling on.

[beac]

73. Um, we can do BOTH, you know. (And ARE, I'm quite sure.) n/t

[NecklyTyler]

71. K&R

[krawhitham]

76. k&r

[TransitJohn]

77. Silly.

Don't you know yet that Republicans don't have to deal with trivial matters like consequences? :sarcasm:
Democrats never make Republicans pay, not from Watergate, through Iran-Contra, through Iraq, to today.

[Boku-Wa]

79. Get over it! Wilson shouldn't be the issue. He's a right-wing moron.

But regarding the 'decorum' in Congress, don't you wish some Representative or Senator would have called Bush a liar during one of his lying speeches?

Don't you REALLY wish they would have thrown their boots at him?

Fuck the decorum! I'd prefer the antics in the House of Commons any day.

[musicblind]

90. I agree with you. n/t

[Rosco T.]

80. Send this to KEITH & RACHAEL & ED!

[wroberts189]

85. Personal Accountability ..is that not what re-pubs preach? nt

[Libertas1776]

88. He must be censured

and I am so tired of hearing people comparing the outburst to something tantamount to a session of Parliament. When you see the majority party and the loyal opposition going at it on C-Span, that is a business day. And the man to whom they direct their shouts, the Prime Minister, is the head of the government, not the state. This session was not ordinary business, it was a special address to both chambers of Congress assembled, by the Head of State. If an MP or a Lord ever had the audacity to yell "liar" at the Queen, the Head of State, at a State Opening of Parliament, he would be quickly shouted down by every and all sides with jeers and shouts of "SHAME!" "SHAME!" and would probably be run out of the place.
If only certain members of Congress could show such respect for the office of the head of state of the United States of America.

[Raine]

89. Will do! nt

[Cha]

94. Rec'd

:patriot::patriot: