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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:31 AM
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I made the mistake of arguing with two people that called Obama "Hitler"...
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 06:41 AM by armyowalgreens
Two fellow students, actually.

DO NOT do this under any circumstance.


I initially continued the argument to try and figure out if I could change their minds. I couldn't have been any further from convincing them that they were wrong. Neither of them will learn.

It was just such a mental shock to run into not one, but two people, at the same time, that honestly believe that Obama is a current day Hitler.

What the fuck is the matter with these people? Do they not live in the same world as you and I?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:32 AM
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1. Students?
I can probably guess their grades without your telling me.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:33 AM
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3. One dropped out of ASU at the end of last year. She is now attending community college.
I am less familiar with the other.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:33 AM
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2. You know who else lived in the same world as you and I?
HITLER!

We're just like Hitler!
OMG!

Seriously, these people have a pathologic need to be afraid of President Obama.
There really is nothing that can be done for them.
They are ill.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:05 AM
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4. There's not much you can do to change their minds....
When people become so invested in something they want to believe that they know is not true, they become deeply entrenched in the lie and no amount of fact, common sense, or clear thinking will change their minds. It's called cognitive dissonance. Why do they need to believe the lie? For some it's pure Racism. For others, it might be about any number of things. Obama's young, he's intelligent, he's good looking, he's a family guy. Some people hate themselves.

It's not your fault that you can't get through to them.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:13 AM
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5. Are you really that stupid?
that is my stock answer to people who say that these days.

It never ceases to blow my mind how deep the propoganda sinks its tentacles into peoples head.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:19 AM
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6. you are right. no one saying that wants any info.... just say the stupid. i dont even bother
with people like that.

i get that type arguing on du. not obama is hitler but other subject. i never respond to those people. waste of time.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:55 AM
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7. remind them that Hitler and the Nazis, to shut down any dissent,
first killed the intellectuals ...

and thus, the Repugniconvict party is more like what they're accusing Obama of being than they will admit ...
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:00 PM
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8. I don't really feel like calling any one a nazi or hitler.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:03 AM
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21. and they're the ones who brought up Hitler?
if anything, Obama would be killing the stupid ...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:01 PM
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9. You encountered LaRouchebags in their natural habitat.
The best defense is usually a large brick to the side of the target's head.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:03 PM
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10. No they don't
They live in a constructed reality they call "conservatism". They would kill rather than have that "reality" shaken.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:04 PM
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11. I'd certainly give it a shot...
I know quite a bit about old Adolph and relish educating people like that.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:06 PM
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12. Ther's no point in wasting your time with stupid motherfuckers
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:15 PM
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13. When I encounter "these people", I tell them there are only three possible reasons for them to
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 04:18 PM by retread
make such a bizarre statement: Either they are stupid or they think I am stupid or they are trying to stir some shit.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:20 PM
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14. The Only Line To Take With These People, Sir
Is to tell them they are quite right, absolutely correct, and express sympathy with their fate to come in the extermination camps, and wish them luck in their run for the border, without omitting to tell them that you will be alerting the Ameri-Cprps goons as to their whereabouts and activities at the earliest opportunity.....
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:23 PM
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15. Tell them to just shut the fuck up......
....and get your fucking value meal so you can get out of there.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:24 PM
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16. So just laugh and point.
Some people are just born stupid.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:24 PM
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17. it wasn't a mistake- and even though it is
frustrating as HELL (i know from experience) and also depressing and worrisome, YOU DID EXACTLY what you should have done.imo

Silence is a license to continue - If you'd simply ignored them, you would be agreeing with them. One day, you may come across someone who IS able to hear the truth- It may take a LOT of experiences like the one you just had, but if you continue to speak out for the TRUTH- I do believe you will make a positive difference.

Wasn't it MLK who said- "“We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.”? or Gandhi, I'm not sure.

Thank you for not choosing the easy path of silence-

:grouphug:

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:26 PM
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18. Encourage their sorry asses to leave the country. nt
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:36 PM
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19. I was out with my mother today and saw two cars
both with NOBAMA stickers; one had 'Obama Bin Lyin' and the other 'Don't Tread On Me'. These were both beaten up jalopies in two of the most liberal towns in the country: Cambridge MA and Brookline MA. Where were these idiots when Bush was lying his ass off?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 04:38 PM
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20. It's a lost cause.
Some minds are hermetically sealed shut, and then welded closed just to be sure.

It's sad. But there are more productive uses of your time.
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