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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:59 AM
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Now that you've slept on it...
Do you still feel that the President's speech was great and is going in the right direction?

I heard Senator McCaskill of MO say that the moderates were going to the White House to talk with the President this morning. They do not want a public option that is not paid for or one that will grow big enough to compete with the present insurance companies. Is that what we want? Is that something the President will agree with? Would you agree with it?

Or do you still need a little more time to assimilate what is happening? Let it settle for a few days and see which direction we are going? Can we have reform without a public option? Do you think it's really going to happen?
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:00 AM
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1. I'm just now going to bed.
I let you know in 8 hours. :hi:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:00 AM
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2. No
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:06 AM
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3. No. No. Yes. No. No. No. No. Nothing.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:07 AM
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4. McCaskill is basically asking for what I want.
No matter what Obama does he will be called nasty things by the right.

He might as well do the right thing and not one of the main reasons why I did not vote for one of his primary competetors as he did last night....must fucking buy...talk about cororate Democrat BS.

And they call this "left".
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:07 AM
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5. I feel the same - I liked the prez' fire and how he took on the other side...
...but the public option for only the uninsured flat out sucks ~ I'll bet they get rid of it entirely.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:11 AM
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8. That was my first reaction, too, but...
...then I began to wonder if the sub-text was that it was the MINIMUM he'd sign on for. That is, if there is enough clamor (now or later) to broaden the public option, I think he'd be happy with that.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:13 AM
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9. Could be the minimum, but people like Claire McCaskill are seeing it...
...as something to get rid of. (Blue Dogs are meeting with the prez today.) We'll see I guess.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:07 AM
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6. no.
Four YEARS for a public option? That gives the insurance companies even MORE time to lobby to turn THAT into a money machine for THEM.

This is a give away to corporate greed. And to campaign contributors.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:09 AM
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7. No, I don't
I see it as a windfall for Big Med, at our expense.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:43 AM
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10. I am confident with where
the President stands. Much more confident than before the speech.

Now he's got to deal today with those dumb, muffin head blue dogs who have residual brainwash effects from 30 years of "raygunism."

They ran as Democrats for some reason - although it's not apparent in most cases - hope he can reach through the fog of stupidity they cloak themselves in, put some sense into their heads so some, at least, will start turning away from their slavish devotion to the failed policies of the Raygun cohort..

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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:46 AM
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11. No
I'm still pissed that the President is going to the mat to protect for-profit insurance companies at all costs.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 07:52 AM
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12. no, and it's worse than I thought it would be
This piece of corporate shit that's a gift to Big Ins. and an epic disaster for most Americans needs to die.



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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:04 AM
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13. If They Include 'No Pre-Existing Conditions, Non-Denial Of Claims & No Cap On Claims.......
private insurance firms will have to raise premiums to cover that. The only way that we'll be able to keep premium levels from skyrocketing is to have a 'public option' to compete with private insurance plans. In my opinion it is needed more now than ever. Also - if we wait 4 years for all this HCR to kick in - watch the mail for 'premium increases' in the interim. The private insurance industry will be relentless in the run up years to implementation. The only saving grace is that the American Public will be sensitized to the private insurance industry and if the industry gets too aggressive - there will be a public outcry that might set the ball rolling faster and even be more devastating to the private insurance industry.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:09 AM
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14. doesn't PO have to be open to all to pay for self? need all that can pay into it instead of just
those without jobs ect... that will pay the bare minimum. i thought the whole point to PO was to get a vast amount of people in paying different rates, rates that one can afford to subsidize those that cant afford.
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