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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:41 PM
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"Bush kept us safe for 8 years"
Somebody at work pulled the "Bush kept us safe for 8 years" crap on me today. My reply:

WRONG!


Bush kept us safe for 7 years, and that was only after 3000 reminders.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:44 PM
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1. Except for that incident on 9/11/01. Oh, and the anthrax.
And the assault on everybody's civil liberties.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:48 PM
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4. And his administration's appalling lack of action after Katrina
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:29 AM
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32. Protected the polluters from EPA and NASA and the FBI...
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:35 AM
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33. Don't forget the D.C. sniper.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:48 PM
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39. That anthrax thing that only impacted liberal senators and journalists?
Gee, I wonder who was behind that one?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:44 PM
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2. And he didn't keep us safe
He didn't do shit worthwhile.
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:45 PM
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3. Anthrax
He didn't keep us safe from whoever was mailing anthrax, or from the rail road line that was sabotaged in the South West, or from any number of clinic bombings and other acts of domestic terrorism. In fact, he didn't do shit as far as protecting the country and us.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:50 PM
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5. No, he kept us scared.
Some of us just weren't buying the fear.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:51 PM
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6. The U.S. Constitution would beg to differ with your co-worker.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:51 PM
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7. What about the anthrax attacks.
People died on their watch from that too.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:51 PM
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8. People in New Orleans must have felt very safe
after Bush finally wrapped up his photo ops and staged events and went on to look for the next fuck up.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:54 PM
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9. And this somebody didn't try to claim that 9/11 happened on Clinton's watch?
What was their response?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:54 PM
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10. We can also say Clinton kept us safe for 8 years, until Shrub got into
office! And Clinton didn't have the anthrax stuff either! Wonder why the Dems never respond that way?
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:56 PM
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12. I actually did mention that about Clinton
Keeping us safe. I didn't mention that Clinton did it without shredding the constitution.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:55 PM
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11. Good police work keeps us safe
As for Bush, well, a grade school kid on safety patrol duty could have done a better job.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:59 PM
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13. Bush put the entire country in harms way
he and his cabal in no way kept us safe, nor protected the constitution. Just the opposite.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:00 PM
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14. You forgot Katrina.
And the Minnesota Bridge Collapse.

And the e. Coli poisoning.

And the poisoned toys.

And...

And...

Oh, the hell with it. Just google "No one could have anticipated"



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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:43 AM
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46. Pet Food ... even our pets were dying
because of his ineptness. :-(
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:02 PM
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15. He didn't keep safe the 4,000 troops who died in Iraq...
...whom he sent into an unneccessary war under false pretenses.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:31 PM
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42. pretty much my response to this always too
He claimed they were fighting terrorism, then ignored their deaths when talking about keeping Americans safe from terrorist attacks. How's that exactly work?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:06 PM
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16. He never kept us safe.
We were afraid for our jobs, of credit card debt, of age discrimination, of doctor and dentist bills, we became terrified of WEATHER under Bush.

George W. Bush never spent a dime on what really frightened us.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:15 PM
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17. sorry. one 9/11 blown is enough to declare him a failure at the security thing.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:36 PM
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18. He didn't keep us safe at all
Maybe Outsiders never attacked us but our country was economically attacked savagely the entire time Bushie was in office.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:39 PM
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19. Thousands of U.S. soldiers and poor residents of New Orleans say otherwise,
from their graves.



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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:40 PM
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20. I just give them that one.
I also give them the good work he did on aids in Africa and a few other things..

Than I pwn them on about everything else, and pull them out of their trench by reminding them I gave that credit.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:41 PM
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21. No, he didn't. But even if he did
if someone screws up badly-enough the first time, they don't get credit for not doing it again.

How many oil tankers has Joseph Hazelwood sunk SINCE the Exxon Valdez?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:44 PM
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22. That's why he tortured prisoners...
It was necessary to keep us safe. Of course, by his own admission, they stopped torturing prisoners in 2003. It must have been the grace of God that kept us safe after he stopped torturing? Otherwise, what was the use in torturing prisoners to begin with??
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:49 PM
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23. Like you said, thousands of GIs that died for shit weren't so safe.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 10:53 PM
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24. Safe from what?
Those murdering thieves and all their cohorts helped themselves to the country's wealth and good name...

And left all of us in the mud.

We are less safe for their actions.

:nuke:
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:06 PM
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25. Safe from what?? Coherent sentences...?...
Multi-syllable words? Correct pronunciation? Danger of catching foreign cooties by keeping the rest of the world from wanting to be our friend...?

Yeah, I guess if you measure "safe" by those standards he was a resounding success...
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:08 PM
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26. Maybe safe from feeling like a dumbass
Since there was a bigger dumbass to compare to :)
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:11 PM
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27. Problem is the media and Dems allowed the GOP to frame that stance
They should have been called on it immediately soundly. But if you watched them use that talking point, the MSM helped them along everytime they brought it up. Few on the Dem side ever countered with Clinton kept us safe for nine years after the first WTC attack and caught the actual perps, tried and convicted them without losing 4,000 US lives.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:12 PM
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28. I never felt safe when that moron was President
We're lucky that the country wasn't destroyed in a world war with that dimwit in charge.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:09 AM
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29. Attempting to trash the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5 Amendments
and "keeping us safe" are not synonymous.

The Iraq fiasco made us less safe, not more, by undermining us elsewhere, IMO. And the assault on the Bill of Rights was far more dangerous to the USA as a nation in the long run than a few nutjobs in the Middle East. Not to mention the roles the War on Terrah! and subsidizing Wall Street at the expense of Main Street played in our economic decline.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:20 AM
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30. Siiiiggghhhh . .
ALWAYS love when conservaturds pull this logical fallacy (cause and effect) with me. Next time someone says this to you, do this:

Me: CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

Freep: "Why are you clapping?"

Me: "DUH! To keep the TIGERS from attacking me, of course."

Freep: "But . . . there aren't any tigers anywhere."

Me: "Damn, this clapping thing's working better than I thought."

SAME damned thing.

Yet the worst terrorist attack on American soil happens on BEWSH'S watch (and arguably, with BEWSH's foreknowledge . . . I mean, what, only 11 or more nations warned him) and they still don't see how absolutely DUMB the whole "becauz of Bush, no terrst attcks sins 9/11" statement is.

Unreachable and in fairy tale land until the end times, I guess.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:21 AM
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31. Uh. 9/11 happened on HIS watch?
I like your response:

"Bush kept us safe for 7 years, and that was only after 3000 reminders."

Then the a$$hole bu$h wasted tens of thousands MORE lives (and BILLIONS of dollars) 'fighting them over there' (when "there" isn't even where they came from!).
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:36 AM
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34. I absolutely see RED when I hear that bullshit about Boy Dubya keeping anything safe.
The only thing the asshole ever kept safe was his chickenshit ass when he went AWOL from TANG during the VN War.

Fuck him, Cheney, the RWs and their lying bullshit used to scare the public into giving up their rights and supporting these corporate whores.

JMHO
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:53 AM
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35. All you need to know Bush kept us safe until 9/11/01, Obama has kept us safe until 9/11/09, they are
now completely equal and Cheney must be frothing at the mouth over it.
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zinnisking Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:28 AM
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36. I think it's interesting
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 09:29 AM by zinnisking
that Republicans want to give the Cheney admin. credit for the time AFTER Sept. 11, but not before or during.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:45 PM
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37. And tell that to all the soldiers put in harms way
for a lie, and with not enough equipment. Tell it to all the prisoners tortured for no reason.

Bush kept us afraid for 8 long years, because of a predatory administration with no ethics. We were far from safe.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:46 PM
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38. Correct response: Bush kept us safe for almost 8 months.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:52 PM
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40. bush put a giant shitstain on the country..with cheney pulling
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 08:53 PM by Cha
the strings.

Now we have President Obama and his Team to pull us out of the abyss.:patriot::patriot:

Wouldn't a rant from Jim Cornette be good right about now?

<snip>>>

SICK--OR JUST STUPID???

Posted September 8, 2009

Sometimes there's things more important than pro wrestling.

I said this last fall when the United States was involved in the most transformative election of our lifetimes. We had the choice of a sea change, a massive cultural shift in our politics, or more of the same road to ruin when we had a choice between Barack Obama and Joe Biden or John McCain and the publicity stunt the Republican party had foisted upon him. For the first time in my life, I took an interest in politics and even posted on the internet because, to be quite honest, for the first time I not only had the time and inclination to involve myself in politics but also I saw a chance for real change in a moment of national crisis. I made my voice heard in a way that my "celebrity" status, such as it is, allowed me to by posting on the internet, and fortunately, to use a wrestling term, the babyfaces won. At the age of 47, I voted for the first time ever, and I was there at 6:00AM when the polls opened. My state, Kentucky, was the first state called red in the election results on TV, and it caused me quite a bit of shame, but I knew I had done the right thing, and in the end the forces of good carried the day.

I said this again a few months ago when Joey Styles, WWE ex-announcer and current Vince McMahon sycophant, posted on his "Twitter" account a bunch of hateful and irrational statements about Barack Obama. I used my small forum on my "Who's Slammin' Who" podcast (to access my weekly rants here go to Whosslammingwho.podomatic.com to tell anyone who might listen my thoughts on him and others like him who stand in the way of this countrys' recovery and progress. Once again, whether anyone agreed or not, I knew I had done the right thing, and this feeling was borne out by the countless emails I received in support of my statements, the posting of my rant on Youtube, the Daily Kos, the Democraticunderground.com website, and other places where even non-wrestling fans who had never heard of me were touched or inspired by my comments.

So now I find myself inadvertently and unwillingly thrown into the middle of another controversy--the fight for health care reform. And I'm mad--DAMNED mad as a matter of fact, with what I see going on around me.

Let's get this straight at the jumpstart. I registered as a Democrat last fall, as I said for the first time ever, simply because I saw Barack Obama speaking to, not at, the American people, and I agreed with what he said. If it had been another person, another party, another time, I could have gone another way. I didn't because, quite simply, the Republicans I see on TV and in print are not people I agree with nor would want to associate with. I don't agree with all Democrats either--I voted for a man I felt was genuine and brilliant and determined to do the right thing, and I accepted his party simply because HE, at least, seemed to have the right idea. Now, while my admiration for Obama is undiminished, my acceptance of his party has me in doubt. For all the good Obama has TRIED to do, he has not only met obstacles and obstructionism from the conservatives and Republicans, but from his own party as well."

<more>>>
http://www.jimcornette.com/Commentary.html

And, it's his birthday in 6 days:party:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:06 PM
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41. That depends on your definition of "safe"
OR, your definition of "8".
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:24 AM
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43. Allowing 9/11 to happen was keeping us safe? Ignoring New Orleans destruction is keeping us safe?
Allowing us to face the biggest financial crisis since 1929 is keeping us safe?
Not destroying Al Quaeda in Afghanistan but attacking Iraq instead is keeping us safe?

Just HOW did he keep us safe then? Huh?
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:27 AM
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44. Well he *might* not have kept all Americans *entirely* safe


but to be fair, his joke about searching the Oval office for non-existent WMDs was *hilarious*.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:34 AM
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45. September 11 was on his watch
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 02:41 AM by Raine
HE DID NOT KEEP US SAFE!!!!!!!!!!! WORST TERRORIST ATTACK IN THE UNITED STATES AND HE DID NOT STOP IT!

edit: typo
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:49 AM
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47. So, 9/11 was a mulligan?

:shrug:

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