No Public Option = No Mandate...period!!

[SHRED]

A mandate without a Public Option (Medicare for all) is Fascism.

Explain to me how it isn't.

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[Zynx]

1. I'm actually a little confused on how it is.

You are making the affirmative statement. The responsibility is yours to make the case.

[SHRED]

2. My understanding is...

...the definition of Fascism being when government and corporate interests merge.

USA Inc.

Health insurance, as a legal requirement, is our government forcing us into corporate interests.

You can choose whether to drive a car or insure your property.
This is different.

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[lovepg]

3. I hear you Shred. I finally am figuring out this whole reform BS is a smokescreen to ...

Bailout the health care industry. In Obamas speech he talked about the health care industry being too big
a part of our economy to go with single payer and put them out of business. TOO BIG TO FAIL. Sound familar?
What better way to get our tax dollars than to make us all ante up to buy their insurance? 46 million new customers. WOW.
They know the business model they have now is unsustainable which explains why they are on board.
And all they have to do is put up with at the worst a very limited public option.
They gotta be laughing all the way to the bank.
As usual we are the SUCKERS!

[leftstreet]

5. TOO BIG TO FAIL! (bubble...bailout...sounds kinda familiar) n/t

[SHRED]

11. that is the direction I see this heading also

[girl gone mad]

4. It's corporatism, really.

Corporatism is a system of economic, political, and social organization where corporate groups such as business, ethnic, farmer, labour, military, patronage, or religious groups are joined together into a single governing body in which the different groups are mandated to negotiate with each other to establish policies in the interest of the multiple groups within the body.<1> Corporatism views society as being alike to an organic body in which each corporate group is viewed as a necessary organ for society to function properly.<2> Corporatism is based on the sociological concept of functionalism.<3> Countries that have corporatist systems typically utilize strong state intervention to direct corporatist policies and to prevent conflict between the groups.<4>

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. And the possible Public Option is only for those who don't have insurance. It's not

Medicare for all.

[eridani]

7. Medicare for those who want in would be a start n/t

[grantcart]

8. I agree with your subject line

[Kablooie]

9. It's not Fascism because it has nothing to do with an Italian political movement of the 1930's.

[SHRED]

10. "Corporatism" is a much better word