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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:14 PM
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I have a message for Claire McCaskill
I've been listening to her for days now insisting that any health care reform has to be "deficit neutral".

I have a message for the Democratic Senator from my native state.

JUST WHO IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK PAYS FOR EVERYTHING????? WE, the people, pay your salary. We pay for our country's wars, for Halliburton and Bechtel, for Blackwater. We pay to maintain military bases in over 150 countries. We pay for the billion dollar bombers, for the billion dollar nuclear submarines, the air-to-air fueling systems. We pay to maintain the White House, the Capitol, our National Parks. We pay for schools, for roads, for bridges, for the air traffic control system, for Superfund sites that our military and corporate polluters have left us the tab for.

WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING. Bank and auto bailouts, Fannie and Freddie bailouts, Goldman Sachs bailouts. Our dime.

Yet, when there's ONE item that could, collectively, benefit our lives in very real ways - life and death ways - all of a sudden WE, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR EVERYTHING, have to be "deficit neutral".

WTF?

Who's life blood is this anyway? Perhaps Senator McCaskill could actually do what she promised - auditing military contracts - and scrape up a few cents for the poor slobs who get the bill for everything but when it comes to getting a return on our payment that's actually meaningful are told that we're not allowed to cost the Federal government one red cent or HCR won't get her vote.

I'd like to see a better return on my tax dollars than having thousand dollar a day military contractors torture people. But that's just me.

Deficit neutral, my ass. To say that to the people who are paying the freight really chaps my ass.





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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:16 PM
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1. Doesn't it alarm you that you GET IT far more than the majority of people
who are running the country?

I'd love for her to read this post.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:19 PM
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3. Oh, the DLCers & Blue Dogs "get it."
Their corporate benefactors don't often let them off their leashes though. :mad:

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:55 PM
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21. I hope someone sends it to her. nt
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:18 PM
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2. I got her "deficit neutral" swingin' right here -
how come this didn't come up when those swine were voting to attack and invade and occupy Iraq?

Fuck that "deficit neutral" bullshit. That's nothing but a curious concept whipped out when it's handy as an excuse for something you do not want that Big Black Man to do for American citizens............................

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:19 PM
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4. God DAMN that's a good rant!
Succinct, tightly written and passionate.

Also correct.

I'm proud to recommend this sucker!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:20 PM
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5. She's really been chapping my
ass lately..I wish there were some way you could get your enlightening letter to her.

What is up with her? So Dense sounding.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:20 PM
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6. THIS is a great post.
I kicked it once.
I wish I could do it 100 more times.

I agree.
Fuck this shit, it's time WE THE PEOPLE, get a return on our investment.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:22 PM
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7. Happy to K&R this. nt
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:28 PM
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8. McCaskill's disappointed since the healthcare debate heated up.
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 11:32 PM by burning rain
She showed really deplorable weakness and crybabyism when she had face teabaggers and shouters. I suspect it's all just a cowardly cave on her part, having nothing to do with conviction. She just may not last long in a rough-and-tumble state like Missouri. McCaskill needs to buy a box of toughgirl bars from Hillary.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:29 PM
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9. PERFECT!! Thank you, Neecy.
With your permission I'd like to copy this and send it to my rep and Senator if those words ever escape their mouths.

Highest recommendation.

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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:33 PM
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10. absolutely
She appears on television constantly to bleat about this deficit neutral crap. She might well be contagious.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:42 AM
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11. Ok then did you send it to her? I doubt she reads DU. Maybe though. n/t
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:29 AM
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13. I did send it to her
Minus the profanity.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:41 AM
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14. Good :) n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:48 AM
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12. Chaps mine too! Fucking A DU looking familiar tonight! Thanks for posting
K & R
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:13 PM
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15. Health Care for America MUST be deficit neutral,
..but they just put another $140Billion for MORE WAR on the credit card without blinking an eye.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:27 PM
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16. Joe Wilson and AHIP Team Up to Write Max Baucus’s Health Care Bill By: Jane Hamsher
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 05:28 PM by flyarm
AS A FORMER RESIDENT OF MISSOURI WHERE MY SON WAS BORN...THE SHOW ME STATE...FORMER RESIDENT OF INDEPENDENCE..BLUE SPRINGS AND LEE'S SUMMIT....GET THAT LADY OUT OF OFFICE..SHE IS HORRIBLE! She is just damn lucky I am not voting there any longer!


for those who missed this..

Sen. Claire McCaskill: I'm Happy We're 'Handcuffing The Public Option'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9RV_r-k9lU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edemocraticunderground%2Ecom%2Fdiscuss%2Fduboard%2Ephp%3Faz%3Dview%5Fall%26address%3D385x368864&feature=player_embedded


............................................


Joe Wilson and AHIP Team Up to Write Max Baucus’s Health Care Bill
By: Jane Hamsher


http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/

Friday September 11, 2009 7:06 am


There really doesn't seem to be any limit to what the administration will do to pass Rahm Emanuel's neoliberal giveaway to the insurance industry. The "author" of the plan released by Baucus (and apparently by Mike Ross) is a former VP of Wellpoint. Now AHIP is boasting about their role in crafting it:

Many of the changes to the insurance system now under discussion are the ones that have been advocated this year by the insurance companies themselves, said Karen M. Ignagni, the chief executive of America's Health Insurance Plans, the industry trade group. "The industry has been the leader in creating the proposals everyone is about to endorse," she said.

No wonder insurance company stocks shot up after the President's speech.

But now we find, per John Aravosis, that Kent Conrad and Max Baucus are changing their bill to appease Joe Wilson:


"We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Senator Kent Conrad, one of the Democrats in the talks after a meeting Thursday morning. Baucus later that afternoon said the group would put in a proof of citizenship requirement to participate in the new health exchange — a move likely to inflame the left.

As John says, if Wilson's outburst turns out to be successful, it'll keep happening over and over again. And it will work every time.

If you want to stop this travesty from going forward -- and it's turning into a complete travesty -- ask these members of Congress from strong Democratic districts, all of whom have cosponsored Single Payer in the past and know better, why they aren't pledging to vote against any bill if it turns out to be nothing more than an insurance industry bailout:

read the rest at the link..........

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Reid Endorses Wellpoint’s Co-op Plan
By: Jane Hamsher
Friday September 11, 2009 9:46 am

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/reid-end...

The Senate Majority Leader endorses the Mike Ross/Kent Conrad/Wellpoint authored co-op plan:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) endorsed the concept of health insurance cooperatives Thursday, siding with centrists in the House and Senate who want healthcare reform but oppose a public option.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) also hinted she could accept that approach a day after President Barack Obama delivered an address to a joint session of Congress that offered encouraging words for both centrists and liberal Democrats who have demanded a public insurance option.


I think I may have to adjust my prediction for the co-op "squeeze play" on July 20:

The easiest political path to passing health care is still running the "co-op" crunch. Regardless of what the House does, the Senate can pass Conrad's shitty fake co-op. The Blue Dogs band together and refuse to vote for anything else, and that's what comes out of conference. There's a PR blitz to sell it as a "public plan" (which is why we've worked so assiduously to define it as NOT a public plan), and in a rush to get something passed, Rahm starts twisting progressive arms -- which have been historically very easily twisted.

Blue Dog Mike Ross presciently submitted virtually the same co-op plan in a July 31 amendment that finally emerged this week in Max Baucus's Senate plan. But since it now looks like Pelosi is on board with co-ops, that means the Blue Dogs aren't going to have to take the hit.


HOW MANY WAYS CAN YOU SAY..SELL OUT??????????
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:34 PM
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17. Senate Panel OKs $128 Billion For Afghanistan, Iraq Wars
this ought to warm the cockles of ones heart.......



thank you to Orwellian _ghost for posting this..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6526239&mesg_id=6526239

SO, UH, THERE'S NO MONEY FOR HEALTH CARE?- Senate Panel OKs $128 Billion For Afghanistan, Iraq Wars
Senate Panel OKs $128 Billion For Afghanistan, Iraq Wars



ANDREW TAYLOR | 09/10/09 05:42 PM | AP


WASHINGTON — With hardly any debate, a powerful Senate committee Thursday approved President Barack Obama's $128 billion request for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for the budget year beginning in October.

The move came as anxiety is increasing on Capitol Hill over the chances for success in Afghanistan and as Obama weighs whether to send more forces to the country.

The war funding was approved as the Appropriations Committee voted unanimously for a $636 billion spending measure funding next year's Pentagon budget. The war funding would implement Obama's order earlier this year to add 21,000 more troops to Afghanistan, which would bring the total number of U.S. forces there to 68,000 by the end of 2009.

There's ample skepticism in Congress that Obama's Iraq and Afghanistan funding request will be sufficient. A key lawmaker, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., predicts that an additional war funding will be needed next spring.

Senate panel chairman Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, would not say whether he believes $128 billion would be enough for military operations in the two countries.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:49 PM
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18. K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:48 PM
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19. It's the "Mary Landrieu Effect" - pseudo spinal decay on important matters k*r n/t

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:50 PM
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20. Yeah, Claire is a bit of a dick head on this issue
I can't stand to listen to her - she's no better than a Republican on this issue.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:07 PM
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22. Great rant
I hope you send this to her, but I doubt she'd read it. Isn't it amazing how quickly priorities change once they have tasted the water of the Potomac?
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Marlana Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:14 PM
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23. Did you see her on Morning Joe yesterday?
She said she's happy the public option is going to be "handcuffed" so it won't morph into a single payer system. Here's the video, BTW. I'm a little disappointed with her, but she's about as close to a progressive senator we'll get in Missouri. She is worlds better than either Jim Talent was or Kit Bond is.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:21 PM
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24. I have always found her exceedingly annoying
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:28 PM
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25. Not only do we pay her salary
we pay part of her insurance premium. Congress may have to choose from private plans, but their healthcare is still subsidized by the taxpayers as is the use of Bethesda and Walter Reed that they get.
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:45 AM
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27. I live in her district...
considering her votes for war and actions against poor folks, my wife suggested I run for her seat instead of giving her my vote next time. If I earn the seat, I'd finally have a reasonable and trustworthy health insurance policy.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:50 PM
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26. KICK
Sadly, too late to recommend....

:kick:
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:01 AM
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28. K & R! n/t
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:08 AM
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29. LOL love it.....
this is the best post I've seen all day, huge K&R.
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