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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:00 AM
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Kucinich...A PETITION ESTABLISHING HEALTH CARE AS A CIVIL RIGHT


Whereas, Universal Health Care was proposed by President Teddy Roosevelt in 1912; and

Whereas today, nearly 100 years later, 47 million Americans are uninsured and another 50 million are underinsured bringing great social and economic harm to the American family; and

Whereas, HR 676, authored by Congressmen John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich provides for Medicare for All, a universal, single payer, not-for-profit health care system which means the end of premiums, copays and deductibles; and

Whereas we are already paying for a universal standard of care but are not getting it because one of every three dollars in the health care system goes to the activities of the for-profit insurance system; and

Whereas HR676 firmly establishes health care as a Civil Right, consistent with the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States and Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution which defines a purpose of government "to promote the General Welfare," now therefore,

I HEREBY EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR HR676, SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE, AND THE PRINCIPLES OF ECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR WHICH IT STANDS:


http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:02 AM
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1. proud first rec and kick!

:kick:

go Dennis!

:applause:
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JaneFordA Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 PM
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60. Goooooooooooooo Dennis! :-)
I think he should run in the '12 Primary
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:06 AM
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2. Excellent idea.
Every other civilized country considers the right to healthcare a civil right. We are still in the dark ages here, and it's sad to see so many 'progressives' agreeing now that have a D in the WH, that it is not a right. It is, and any country that has allowed tens of thousands of its citizens to die in order to preserve 'the free market', cannot be called civilized. The market isn't so free when you value life. Not free at all.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:06 AM
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3. (shrug) I support that. Now... what do we do for the 20 years or so until anything like that...
has a chance of becoming a reality?

Let as many people as possible die and become bankrupt, in order to prove your point? (Which I already agree with.)

Or do things that are not *as* good, but are actually *doable* right now?

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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:24 AM
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7. Well we could give all our money by mandate to IC's and let them kill us with denials
Oh wait, that is the plan now, GOOD PLAN...

At least those that can afford insurance without $5,000 deductibles that they can't afford to use will get to see some care and maybe make some profit off guys like me via investments. So what if I have to pay for something that won't cover shit when the need actually arises. Corporations are the best "people", supporting them is why we even exist and I should be damn thankful for the opportunity to do so!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:05 PM
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37. Yeah that sounds good dragonfli
Cuz I luvs me that charismatic guy in the WH and I don't want his buddy Rahm to be unhappy.

One nation under the Corporacracy, with health claims denied to all.
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:15 AM
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4. K & R nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:17 AM
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5. K&R
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:21 AM
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6. done done done
kick and rec
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:29 AM
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8. Signed and submitted. n/t
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:30 AM
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9. K&R for an elected official that cares about people and not corporations!
And for yet another chance provided by him to help promote empathy and humanity rather than the greed of the few elite.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:31 AM
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10. whereas, you have to love "crazy" dennis. and whereas this "right" thing is so out there...
i do so throw my support solidly behind crazy dennis.

whereas...
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:47 AM
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11. Thank you! K&R
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:00 AM
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12. Signed. Just to go on record as a human being.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:47 AM
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13. Done 7 recommended.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:49 AM
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14. K&R. Done,
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:35 AM
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15. Love this poll on his site...
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 03:36 AM by Goldom
(signed, btw, but found this too):

http://healthcare.kucinich.us/index.php?option=com_poll&task=results&id=14

Love how half the options are identical.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:11 AM
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23. K & R
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:51 AM
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31. To vote in the poll here's the link
http://healthcare.kucinich.us/index.php

Halfway down on the right.

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:45 PM
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61. The poll
30-something % checked universal health care INSURANCE.

The next 3 most popular involve health care for all with the last in that rank being a tax increase to pay for health care for every American.

I voted for the tax increase...because:

Ask yourself: Is whatever tax hike gonna be more or less than you'd pay in premiums for a year? If businesses had to pay in too?.... I mean, think about it.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:45 AM
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16. Done.
I love Dennis Kucinich.
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lovelyrita Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:55 AM
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17. I'm going to print the petition out and have people sign it
at the 9/13 march in Tampa. Hopefully the voices in the house will be heard.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:53 AM
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18. kicking
dennis kucinich is the best.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:11 AM
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19. K&R'd & signed.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:16 AM
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20. knr - done nt
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:49 AM
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21. K&R
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:52 AM
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22. K&R and signed! n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:13 AM
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24. Rec
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:17 AM
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25. K & R-signed
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:53 AM
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26. Finally a message that is clear and helpful......
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:55 AM
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27. You can't pursuit happiness if you're sick in bed.
It's as much of a right as breathing and getting an education. Hell, you can't get an education if you're sick!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:18 AM
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28. Or worried about foreclosure or eviction because you are ill. n/t
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:24 AM
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29. another k&r
currently we have the right to life, unless the insurance company decides that your life is not worth taking some of their profits away. So what do we do? Give them the biggest boost in their histories!!

kick for Dennis!!
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:46 AM
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30. Signed - K&R!
:applause:

Dennis :patriot:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:15 PM
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32. Dick Nixon was more liberal than today's Democratic Party.



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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:54 PM
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55. Nixon was our last liberal president.
I concur with your photo.

:(
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:27 PM
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89. Just makes you sick, doesn't it? n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:33 PM
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91. I'm getting used to the idea that this is a dying society.
RIP, USA.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:50 PM
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33. Yes, I'm all for Kucinich's proposal.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:52 PM
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34. Done & Rec
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:56 PM
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35. K & R! And fuck all the sell outs here on DU who have put politics before people! nt
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:32 PM
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41. Well put
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:01 PM
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36. K & R!
Signed, sealed and delivered, so to speak :)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:05 PM
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38. one of the few remaining Democrats
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:05 PM
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39. K&R
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:05 PM
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40. K&R. Signed. //eom
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:34 PM
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42. Gee, an internet petition
That'll make the insurance companies quiver in their boots!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:40 PM
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44. Because nothing of any consequence ever happens on the internet.

:eyes:

Stuck in the 80s/early 90s eh?

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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:57 PM
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45. Especially when the VAST majority of Americans
are satisfied with their current insurance from those companies.

There's a reason DK wasn't nominated the Dem candidate - he is too far left and does not represent the majority of Democrats.
I would not have voted for him and neither would any Dem I know.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:46 PM
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52. you're full of crap--you need to back up that bullshit with some facts
I remember you--you're that same "Democrat" who doesn't want the public option. You've got yours so everybody else can go to hell.
And I don't think you know any "Dems."
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:38 PM
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43. Link for letters to your reps here:
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:01 PM
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46. Very good
Now that that's done what is our next step as those in power ignore our petitions.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:09 PM
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47. Super Kick
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:13 PM
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48. Joe Wilson and AHIP Team Up to Write Max Baucus’s Health Care Bill By: Jane Hamsher
THANK YOU DENNIS..



Joe Wilson and AHIP Team Up to Write Max Baucus’s Health Care Bill
By: Jane Hamsher


http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/

Friday September 11, 2009 7:06 am


There really doesn't seem to be any limit to what the administration will do to pass Rahm Emanuel's neoliberal giveaway to the insurance industry. The "author" of the plan released by Baucus (and apparently by Mike Ross) is a former VP of Wellpoint. Now AHIP is boasting about their role in crafting it:

Many of the changes to the insurance system now under discussion are the ones that have been advocated this year by the insurance companies themselves, said Karen M. Ignagni, the chief executive of America's Health Insurance Plans, the industry trade group. "The industry has been the leader in creating the proposals everyone is about to endorse," she said.

No wonder insurance company stocks shot up after the President's speech.

But now we find, per John Aravosis, that Kent Conrad and Max Baucus are changing their bill to appease Joe Wilson:


"We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Senator Kent Conrad, one of the Democrats in the talks after a meeting Thursday morning. Baucus later that afternoon said the group would put in a proof of citizenship requirement to participate in the new health exchange — a move likely to inflame the left.

As John says, if Wilson's outburst turns out to be successful, it'll keep happening over and over again. And it will work every time.

If you want to stop this travesty from going forward -- and it's turning into a complete travesty -- ask these members of Congress from strong Democratic districts, all of whom have cosponsored Single Payer in the past and know better, why they aren't pledging to vote against any bill if it turns out to be nothing more than an insurance industry bailout:

read the rest at the link..........

.....................................................................

Reid Endorses Wellpoint’s Co-op Plan
By: Jane Hamsher
Friday September 11, 2009 9:46 am

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/reid-end...

The Senate Majority Leader endorses the Mike Ross/Kent Conrad/Wellpoint authored co-op plan:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) endorsed the concept of health insurance cooperatives Thursday, siding with centrists in the House and Senate who want healthcare reform but oppose a public option.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) also hinted she could accept that approach a day after President Barack Obama delivered an address to a joint session of Congress that offered encouraging words for both centrists and liberal Democrats who have demanded a public insurance option.


I think I may have to adjust my prediction for the co-op "squeeze play" on July 20:

The easiest political path to passing health care is still running the "co-op" crunch. Regardless of what the House does, the Senate can pass Conrad's shitty fake co-op. The Blue Dogs band together and refuse to vote for anything else, and that's what comes out of conference. There's a PR blitz to sell it as a "public plan" (which is why we've worked so assiduously to define it as NOT a public plan), and in a rush to get something passed, Rahm starts twisting progressive arms -- which have been historically very easily twisted.

Blue Dog Mike Ross presciently submitted virtually the same co-op plan in a July 31 amendment that finally emerged this week in Max Baucus's Senate plan. But since it now looks like Pelosi is on board with co-ops, that means the Blue Dogs aren't going to have to take the hit.


HOW MANY WAYS CAN YOU SAY..SELL OUT??????????
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:41 PM
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49. k&r! nt
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:41 PM
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50. Kicked, Recc'd, and Signed!!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:44 PM
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51. done
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:52 PM
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53. K&R,,and signed and submitted....
Kuchinich is the man we should have voted into office people. He is the one still fighting for us.
I voted for Obama and I still pray he stands up and does the right thing..but I am worried he will once again cave in.
Please Obama....be the fighter we need!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:53 PM
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54. K&R
Thank you 10th District of Ohio - for sending us this congressman!
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:58 PM
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56. I suppose it is a lost cause...
...to point out that health care is an entitlement, not a right, huh?

Subtle distinctions are lost upon the faithful.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:59 PM
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57. kick
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:21 PM
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58. K&R
:kick:
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:21 PM
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59. Done. knr
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:46 PM
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62. signed, K&R!
Ah, Dennis. Thank you.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:53 PM
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63. done and rec'd
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:00 PM
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64. Why not just get the bill passed? Kucinich is going to vote for the public option because
he has established a trend.



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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:44 PM
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77. What are the Kucinich folks going to do when he votes for the house bill?
:shrug:
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:11 PM
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65. K&R N/T
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:17 PM
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66. rec'd, signed, hopefully awaiting....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:21 PM
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67. K&R and done -- thanks! nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:32 PM
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68. K&R. Dennis.
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 08:33 PM by David Zephyr
K&R. Thanks kster. :hi:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:51 PM
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69. United Nations Human Rights Manifesto include HEALTH CARE as a Human Right--!!!
Food, Shelter, Clothing, Health Care --

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:51 PM
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70. k i c k
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:53 PM
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71. K&R!
Signed!
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:01 PM
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72. Rec and emailed to all I know.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:13 PM
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73. done. nt
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WyoHiker Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:30 PM
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74. K&R
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:35 PM
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75. Done, Kicked & Recommended. nt
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:43 PM
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76. rec and kick - petition signed
:kick:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:45 PM
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78. Done!! Thank you Dennis.
:yourock:
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:35 PM
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79. Signed, Kicked, Rec'ed
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 10:35 PM by Juan_de_la_Dem
typo
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:58 PM
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80. Done. NT
NT
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:43 PM
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81. K&R
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:00 AM
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82. I'll sign the petition, but there doesn't need to be a petition....
... to establish healthcare as a human right. It is a human right that's denied to millions of Americans.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:12 AM
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83. I added my comments
I don't know what hubby and I will do. I owe over $1,000 for medical bills just this year alone. We don't have dental insurance. I am so scared.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:23 AM
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84. Dennis, You're Fucking Awesome!
I love you!:patriot:
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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:29 AM
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85. Signed!
This guy would have been an awesome president, but the MSM just marginalized him out of the race from the get go.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:33 AM
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86. K & R for DK & single payer...healthcare is a right!
Thank you Dennis!!!!
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:36 AM
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87. Done, KnR, nuff said
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leftrightwingnut Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:40 AM
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88. I would like to organize 50 non-profit insurance companies
to provide non-profit health care until such time that a universal, single-payer health care law is passed. Each company that collects more in premiums than it pays out would donate the excess to non-profit insurers in other states who are in the red.

I think that we can organize ourselves into such a system and boycott the for-profit companies. We would accept everyone, no preconditions. There would be no caps on pay-outs. Just pay your premium. We would hold national fund-raisers to help pay the premiums of those who cannot afford it.

And I would like to march on Washington in large numbers, have sit-ins and protests at every for-profit health insurance company office in the United States.

Perhaps, with such pressure, a single-payer, government financed system will finally pass.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:30 PM
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90. Done
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