The Obama Health Care plan he is asking for..

[Peacetrain]

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/


I am editing to add and highlight this.


Immediately offers new, low-cost coverage through a national “high risk” pool to protect people with preexisting conditions from financial ruin until the new Exchange is created.

[The Wielding Truth]

1. It includes PO. Good job.

Offers a public health insurance option to provide the uninsured and those who can’t find affordable coverage with a real choice.



Finally a competitive dog in the free enterprise race.

[Romulox]

2. "Let me be clear. It would only be an option for those who don't have insurance." nt

[Peacetrain]

3. Yes.. if you are covered by private insurance.. why would you want to purchase

a public option?

[Romulox]

4. Because the private insurance is too expensive, or doesn't cover your medication, e.g.

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[Peacetrain]

6. I think that has people really stumped..

If you cannot afford your insurance, then you can take the public option.. I know a number of people who have been been confused with the 5% he spoke of in the speech..

But if you read what he said.. the 5% is what they CBO is guessing is the number of people who will choose the PO.. not the number it is limited too..

I would not choose PO on a bet.. I get my insurance for free.. privately.. I am a lucky duck.. and know it..

EDIT TO ADD/// but my brother is in a totally different place.. and it is scary..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8590485

[Romulox]

11. LOL. Yes, it has "people" stumped...

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"If you cannot afford your insurance, then you can take the public option."

No, you're simply wrong. If your employer provides insurance, you are stuck with it under Obama's plan no matter how expensive or inadequate to your needs. That's what the part after "let me be clear" means.

"Let me be clear. It would only be an option for those who don't have insurance."

[avaistheone1]

14. Because many private insurance plans are pure shit.

Take Walmart as an example - where they do offer insurance it is typically of the lowest quality, and it covers few services. As a result of the their insurance being so pathetic and their wages being so low, many Walmart employees are both eligible for and opt for state run insurance programs where available) like Medical.

My sister works for retailer which is a major Fortune 500 company. One would think they would have some of the best health insurance. Instead their insurance company is a joke. It does not provide much coverage. The doctors who take it are few and far between. You have to go forty miles in some cases to find a doctor who will accept the coverage. And those doctors who do are some of the doctors with the worst reputations.

Everyone should be able to choose the public option. The handcuffs need to be taken off the public option.

[Peacetrain]

5. Again.. he never ran on single payer..

[Romulox]

7. You've got all your terms jumbled up--Obama was speaking of the "Public Option"

not "single payer". Allowing open enrollment into a public option as one choice among many is not, by definition, "single payer".

[Peacetrain]

9. No I am not confused.. but for some..(not talking about you ;)

for some it has been confusing.. and the single payer/public option has them going in circles.

[The Wielding Truth]

15. If it were open to everyone, then it would be a universal po.

Seems to me that would constitute a single payer. Maybe I read it wrong, and that anyone would be allowed to choose it??? I'll have to go back and investigate,but then again this has not been passed yet and may change.

We have to push what we want. I would prefer a Canadian plan.

How terrific not to have the worry about no health care, or being bankrupted or squeezed by high premiums or bills.

How can this nation be so stupid to put profit over it's people's health? A healthy country is our strength.

[avaistheone1]

17. Obama ran on when he was running for Senate.

It worked politically for Obama then. Now single payer although the still the best plan is not politically convenient for him~


Full quote from Obama in 2003:

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” (applause) “I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

Obama speaking to the Illinois AFL-CIO, June 30, 2003.

[The Wielding Truth]

8. Maybe when the country regains it's civility, we will get national health care.

[Peacetrain]

10. In a sense..the PO when implemented will be national health care

for those who are not covered by the private sector.

[Romulox]

12. But like the bank bailouts, we'll get welfare for insurance companies IMMEDIATELY

How does that work?

[branders seine]

13. Mitt Romney apparently won the 2008 election.

Who knew?

[avaistheone1]

16. True.

Yes and he did it with Baucaus' and Conrad's plan for further empowerment of the health insurance companies. Mandatory insurance with handcuffs on the public option.

Errr...that hasn't worked too well anywhere including Massachusetts.

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