Obama Administration Moves to Keep Terror Watch-List Data Strictly Hush-Hush

[Orwellian_Ghost]

Obama Administration Moves to Keep Terror Watch-List Data Strictly Hush-Hush

During his 2008 run for the presidency, Senator Barack Obama promised to reverse the Bush regime's pathological penchant for secrecy and the illegal programs that flourished in darkness like so many poisonous mushrooms.

Administration backpedaling on promises to end the more onerous features of the Bush years betray, not so much Obama's duplicity but rather, the naïve and misplaced hope by his supporters that a centrist Democrat beholden to the corporate pirates and militarists who rule the roost, would actually do things any differently.

In areas of critical importance to civil libertarians, the Democratic regime continues to beef up Bushist programs and heighten government secrecy while limiting public accountability, particularly where the intelligence and security apparatus is concerned.

How else explain Obama's plan, buried within the 2010 budget, to provide the http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fy2010_department_homeland/">Department of Homeland Security an additional $260 million to hire thousands more state and regional intelligence analysts to staff already bloated and controversial fusion centers?

In this context, The Washington Post reported September 6 that the administration "wants to maintain the secrecy of terrorist watch-list information it routinely shares with federal, state and local agencies, a move that rights groups say would make it difficult for people who have been improperly included on such lists to challenge the government." According to the ACLU's http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/watchlistcounter.html">"Watch List Counter," as of September 8 some 1.27 million names appear on the U.S. government's terror list!

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http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-administration-moves-to-keep.html

[monmouth]

1. One of them is a "Jim Robinson." Got that from FReeperland, but

there are many JRs, one of them is 5 years old. I think Senator Edward Kennedy was on that list at one time also...

[Cant trust em]

7. My brother-in-law's father is on the list. nt

[polichick]

2. "beholden to the corporate pirates and militarists who rule the roost"

I'd like to know WHO EXACTLY these pirates and militarists are.

[Individualist]

5. DLC

[polichick]

8. Do you mean those we see often, the Rahms, Clintons, etc...

...or people behind the scene, especially in the military??

[Individualist]

9. Anyone who is a DLC member or follows DLC's agenda

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," - Dennnis Kucinich

Will Marshall, DLC co-founder, was a PNAC signator. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=80#3146
PNAC archive - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=80

Why DLC is dangerous to Democrats (2006) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

DLC and war profiteering
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/1/52221/7678

[polichick]

11. Thanks for the links. So, in your opinion, has the DLC been "infiltrated" or are...

DLC members the pirates themselves ~ is military profiteering their true intent?

[Individualist]

12. Read the links I provided

DLC is a pro-corporate, pro-military industrial complex, neocon enabling organization.

[polichick]

13. I did read them - but there are individual DLC members who don't seem...

...quite so corrupt (like the Clintons), I wondered if it was an infiltrated organization.

[derby378]

3. I say shred the list

Remember those tuna fishers who also caught and killed a lot of dolphins because they couldn't bother to be careful? This "watch list" is like those tuna fishers.

[aquart]

6. No. Put EVERY American's name on it.

[bluestateguy]

4. Probably because there are growing numbers of teabaggers and birthers on the list

Ronald Kessler's book says that this president receives 4 times the number of threats as the previous president.

This is a necessary move to keep tabs of potential terrorists here at home.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

10. Where have we heard that before?

I wish I were surprised to hear it again. Violations of our civil liberties are necessary?

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

- Ben Franklin

[kimmerspixelated]

17. I think you're right.

I think the secret service is working overtime. And I do think that with so much racism intermingled with the teabaggers attitude, the growing numbers are a dangerous thing indeed.

Do you think that Obama is briefed everyday about the threats? My God he's a brave man! Nerves of fucking steel.

[gorfle]

14. Yup, it sucks.

All of my Republican friends point to this kind of behavior and say, "See! Obama sees that Bush was right all along and that's why he's doing the same thing!"

What can you say to that? They're right.

[treestar]

15. Is this list public now?

[Statistical]

16. Nope which is why I find the OP confusing.

Even if you are denied boarding by an airline the govt will NOT confirm if you are on the list.

So you never have a way to know if you are on the list, the TSA screwed up, the airline screwed up, the system has a glitch.

You simply don't know and never will.

Free societies don't have secret lists.