Saw a teabugger/nutball with "Terrorist Hunting Permit" sticker on his pickup today.

[arbusto_baboso]

And it made me think.

Who is this for? Does he think it's humorous?

And honestly, does good ol' Zeke actually believe that even if the shotgun on the rack in his truck is loaded that he'd stand a snowball's chance against even a moderately-trained terrorist cadre? Hell, he wouldn't even slow 'em down, unless he had some kind of Special Ops training and luck was on his side. This ain't Red Dawn, this ain't Die Hard, and this ain't any of Stephen Segall's movies, either. In reality, he'd just die a very quick death rather than become a hero.

No, this sticker is nothing more than neanderthal chest-thumping, and people who display stuff like this should just STFU and leave the job of the nation's protection to the military and police. Of course, since most of the types who display such sticker are abject cowards to begin with, there's probably no danger of them interfering with our REAL protectors...

I think I've figured out the issue with wingnuts; it's testosterone poisoning.

[PDJane]

1. I've made that argument before.......

it does have merit.

[arbusto_baboso]

2. And I'm male, so such an admission is not an easy one for me to make.

But then, my testosterone has seldom overruled my brain, and when it has it was during the times that nature intended!

[Xipe Totec]

3. I was thinking: Hey, what a great marketing opportunity!

We could sell camouflage diapers to these bozos.















But, sadly, somebody beat me to it. Dang it!

[Statistical]

4. moderately trained terrorist?

[arbusto_baboso]

5. A terrorist with a decent level of training.

What the hell term would YOU have used?

[Statistical]

6. two types of terrorists. planners and disposable.

The planners stay off the battlefield and the disposable ones well... they tend to be disposable.

[arbusto_baboso]

8. Not all of them.

I have some experience with this. That's all the further I'm going to say.

[Statistical]

10. ok... well from what I observed the ones doing the fighting ...

were horribly trained, died a lot, and generally were just fed a crap load of propaganda with the hopes they would kill a couple Americans before they went down.

How much training does it really take to strap on a bomb, walk into a market and push a button?
How much training does it take to drive a car bomb to an Iraqi Police checkpoint and flip a switch?
How much training does it take to sit on a roof to and open fire with automatic weapons when Iraqi Police respond to a bombing?
How much training does it take to setup an IED on the side of the road and arm it before a coalition convoy drives by?

Insurgencies rarely require well trained troops.

The life expectancy of insurgent is extremely low. Why waste expensive training on someone who even if successful once or twice has a 90% chance of dying within the next year?

The well trained ones were the ones who know how to build a suicide vest, now how to convert mortar shell into an IED, know where the IP will respond to setup an ambush, know how to load a car with 2000 lbs on explosives but keep it drivable. Those skills are far too valuable to waste on the battlefield.

Maybe you met some spec op insurgents but they are an extreme rarity.

[arbusto_baboso]

11. From a military standpoint you are correct.

However, most civilians don't have any training whatsoever, and the typical terrorist/insurgent/whatever-you-want-to-call-them is therefore miles ahead of a civvie.

[Edweird]

7. Just out of curiosity, what makes you think 'terrorists' have some kind of 'jedi like' training?

What makes you think they are so superior? What makes them 'terrorists' is the fact that attack the weak and defenseless. They run from a toe to toe confrontation. You don't need to be 'special ops' to shoot a scumbag. All you need is some practice, and that isn't hard to get.
The real obstacle to putting these guys down is that they aren't going to 'whip out an AK and start shooting', they are going to place a device and then run like the cowards they are.
The reason 9/11 was successful is that people had become conditioned to 'give the hijackers whatever they want and it will be over soon'. I mean really, guys with box cutters? People were assuming that they would land at an airport somewhere and the hijackers would be arrested or killed. Let someone try that now.

I see no reason for anyone to 'accept' that they would be killed in confrontation with one of these assholes. If you do, that is your own sad choice.

[arbusto_baboso]

9. I never said they had "jedi like abilities" and you are jumping to conclusions, not to mention....

Putting words in my mouth I didn't say.

First, they have some training that most people don't have. I have that training, but even if *you* are out at a target range regularly, I'm pretty sure *you* do not.

The fact that you think you would be able to "take out some terrorists" when the likelihood is that you'd never see them coming, just further demonstrates to me your utter ignorance on this subject.

The truth is, if you tried to do something in any given situation where terrorists were doing their thing, not only would you get yourself killed, you'd probably get a lot of others killed as well. You might want to start thinking with your big head for a change.

[Statistical]

12. Really? I think you read one to many comic book but..

good thing you have the ultra secret training terrorist have.
You are a really tough internet dude!

[Edweird]

15. Oops. Self Delete.

[Statistical]

16. Um I wasn't replying to you. I recommend reading before posting. n/t

[Edweird]

18. My bad. Sorry. Got a little ahead of myself.

[Edweird]

13. Maybe you should settle down there 'my hero' and reread what I posted.

I covered the 'you'll never see it coming' aspect. Nobody would have shot McVeigh. For all they knew he was a delivery driver. That's what makes them cowards.

9/11 was totally preventable. The hijackers had lifted weights and trained in martial arts and all that, and STILL got their asses kicked on flight 93.

Lastly, you don't know me. You can make all kinds of assertions and speculations about how I'd "probably get a lot of others killed as well" (Like on flight 93, right? Todd Beamer just made things worse, huh?)
and that is your right. However it is also my right to believe that you are a coward and part of the problem. Your pathetic mentality is EXACTLY what allowed 9/11 to happen.

[mattvermont]

14. I think some connections are starting

to fire. "9/11 was totally preventable..." and of course, it was. So why was it not? what other conclusion could you possibly make?
Oh, and Todd Beamer is just a Hollywood construct. Very little lies in a field in western PA.

[Edweird]

17. I see. So, 2 targeted WTC, 1 targeted the Pentagon and 1 targeted our

tactical tree and grass facility in PA. Got it. Nobody did nothin'. Standing up only makes things worses. If something goes wrong we should all just sit there with our heads down and wait for others to come save us,as we are all helpless and weak and incapable of defending ourselves. Got it. Go with the flow. Don't rock the boat.

Pathetic.

[nolabear]

19. Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting tewwowists.

And he's got about as much chance.