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Fri Sep-11-09 06:32 PM
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*** OFFICIAL Howard Dean vs Karl Rove - live now *** |
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 06:35 PM by PeaceNikki
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:35 PM
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1. Better direct link here.. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:36 PM
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My clipboard screwed me on that. Thanks. :)
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:35 PM
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:37 PM
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4. I can't get the webcast to work..is it working for you |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:37 PM
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What browser are you using? Works in Google Chrome.
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:45 PM
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11. very cool...thanks for the tip |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:37 PM
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Dean rules. Did good stuff.
Rove is a big jerk... did a bunch of nasty shit for bad people...
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:38 PM
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5 minute "state of the nation" summary by each. Dean goes first cuz he rules. Moderator will ask question, 2 minutes to reply, 1 to rebutt (heh).
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:42 PM
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8. Dean gets big cheers for saying Indiana is a blue state |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:42 PM
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9. Indiana a blue state, thank you very much |
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 06:43 PM by cal04
Howard Dean talking about turnout for voting
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:43 PM
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:45 PM
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12. Dean is talking about how politics is hard work, no rest, community organizing. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:46 PM
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13. Karl Rove's 5 minutes are up |
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Dead mouse. blah blah
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:48 PM
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:47 PM
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14. Rove: "there's a dead mouse in his pool!" |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:48 PM
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16. Karl Rove's forehead has gotten even larger. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:51 PM
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Common sense party, my ass.
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:52 PM
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18. "Dean will be over here trying to hit me by the end of this thing" |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:55 PM
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19. How Rove lies one after another |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:55 PM
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21. Spending, $$, it's the CLENIS' fault!!!11! |
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He's not surprising me at all.
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:55 PM
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20. OMG he makes me SICK!!!!! |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:57 PM
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Dean says "common sense right" is an oxymoran!
3 snaps in z formation
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:58 PM
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23. Karl starting to look more like Rush. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:59 PM
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24. KKKarl is blaming Fannie and Freddie for the financial collapse. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:00 PM
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Is there ANYthing that you two agree on?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:01 PM
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The deficit, but we won't agree on how to fix it. Dean says that the younger generation is sick of the fighting.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:02 PM
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Blames CLINTON for the divisiveness in Washington. SHOCKER. Wanted to take a 2" x 4" to Harry Reid. Clinton fault again.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:08 PM
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30. That answer is soooo 1996. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:05 PM
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28. Next question. From Lucas |
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Rove pretends to bribe the freshman.
Question: Illegal immigration, how do we stop the brownies from stealing all our $?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:06 PM
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Shut down the boarders. Have programs to bring the brownies here to do shit beneath us and send 'em home. Oh, and people need to be narcs.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:08 PM
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31. Dean's awesome rebuttal |
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Raise your hand if you're a native american.... ok, all the rest of us are immigrants. Stop beating up on immigrants. We immigrants built this country.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:10 PM
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33. He agreed with Rove or are you watching another debate? |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:11 PM
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34. He agreed that there needs to be more control. |
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 07:11 PM by PeaceNikki
Not with ANY of Rove's "3" points.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:13 PM
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37. If someone reads the transcript they will come to their own judgment on that |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:14 PM
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:09 PM
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No AMNETY!! Reagan fucked up by allowing AMNETY! Said something to offend Oklahomans.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:12 PM
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35. Stop being nice, Howard. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:12 PM
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We're seeing lack of civility.... will we be able to discuss and agree on things civily?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:13 PM
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who would have guessed YOU go Howard
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:14 PM
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We need more points of view on news. More civil "personalities" on both sides.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:16 PM
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43. Dean's awesome rebuttal |
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Meh. Lou Dobbs wants to eat my heart.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:15 PM
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41. Equal Time Rule ------ thank you Howard!!! |
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I learn we agree on yet ANOTHER issue!
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:18 PM
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44. Rove's yelling about the NYT and Dan Rather. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:19 PM
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Crisis of confidence. Nobody likes Congress. Make us believe again, Howard and Karl!
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:21 PM
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I dozed off, but I heard "Clinton".
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:23 PM
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The president showed strength the other night... people want strength, voted for strength. Just a bump cuz he's like Superman meets the Hulk strong. Obama is just getting started.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:24 PM
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49. Rove's stupid rebuttal |
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Obama called Republicans stupid the other night.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 PM
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50. Dean's awesome rebuttal |
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Dude... death panels ARE STUPID, you idiot. We don't fuck around and mince words when people are FUCKING STUPID!
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:20 PM
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46. I Should Have Killed Him |
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when I had the chance.
I can't watch this - keep this thread updated for us who can't stand to watch.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 PM
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51. "Obama is making it difficult for republicans to reach across the aisle" |
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Karl Rove hasn't lost his sense of humor. :eyes:
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 PM
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52. Is there a way that Mac users can watch this? |
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The link doesn't work for me.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:28 PM
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55. I'm watching with firefox. n/t |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:30 PM
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57. It keeps prompting it as a download when I enter the URL. |
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I tried it in chrome (people said chrome works) and safari.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:33 PM
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61. I just clicked the second link in the op and it loaded quickly and easily. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 PM
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How will Obama keep us as safe as Bush did?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:28 PM
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 07:28 PM by PeaceNikki
We're cool. We're safe, chillax. See:
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:30 PM
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We need to build superpower death machines to kill more people. The CIA is going to kill us all. We need to kill them there so they don't kill us here. OOooo... we chased the Taliban out of Afganistan and into Iraq. That's why we went there, duh.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:31 PM
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58. Dean's awesome rebuttal |
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We need to set high standards and not torture people. If we allow our standards, we have no moral authority. We can't be thugs.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:33 PM
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60. Rove's stupid rebuttal |
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Nobody tortured anyone. Stop saying that. Go to his stupid website and read his blah blah blah...
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:32 PM
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59. Rove We do not torture |
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 07:33 PM by cal04
What a liar you are defending warterboarding people shouting
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:33 PM
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Czars... is Obama Hitler?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:36 PM
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64. Peacenikki, I'm never watching anything again. I'm just going to read your |
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summaries.
Thanks for saving me from watching Rove and making me laugh at the same time.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:37 PM
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This is another trumped up issue to distract from health care reform. Lots of other adminitrations have run the White House this way, so what? He was elected president by a large margin.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:38 PM
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67. Rove's stupid rebuttal |
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Sorry, I was texting during his rebuttal. I picked up "itsy bitsy spider", I think.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:38 PM
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66. What the hell is wrong with Depauw, clapping for KKKarl? Ugh! nt |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:39 PM
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68. As you can tell by the questions, it's a conservative crowd. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:42 PM
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72. Yeah, but I didn't expect it to be like Liberty College! nt |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:40 PM
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70. Next question. Allison. |
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College is really expensive. How can we be sure everyone who wants it, gets a college education?
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:41 PM
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Pell Grants. Go DEMS!! Americorp programs? Work on bringing the cost down - costs go up almost as must as health care. Community Colleges... marketplace will help correct costs.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:43 PM
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74. Rove's stupid rebuttal |
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Dean's right, but Bush helped with Pell Grants, loser. PRIVATIZE!! And I think he said he's circumcised. <<shudder>>
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:42 PM
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73. thanks for the links! |
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Health care: right or privilege?
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PRIVILEGE!!! PRIVATIZE!! LESS TAXES! Lizards.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:48 PM
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Responsibility. I am a strong supporter of Obama's plan. I worked on a public option in my state.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:46 PM
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77. Sorry, guys. I had to turn it off. LIES LIES LIES LIES I have a headache. :( |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:50 PM
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You must have posted just seconds before me.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:47 PM
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78. I had to turn it off. |
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I couldn't stand listening to Rove's propaganda.
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:49 PM
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80. I tried, too, but I can't listen to that RW Pig either, as much as I love Howard Dean. nt |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:52 PM
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82. Next question. (good one) |
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Joe Wilson was a dick and KKKarl totally cracked up about it on TV and cold-dissed Obama. So... should Wilson be censured or should we just let it all out and go all nuts on the Congressional floor now?
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I don't want to talk about Joe Wilson. Hey, it's cool if we get worked up sometimes, but we need to have some civility sometimes.
And fuck KKKarl. (ok, he didn't say that, I did)
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:54 PM
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84. Rove's stupid rebuttal |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:58 PM
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85. Caroline gets the next question... |
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Will getting a handle on health care costs mean that important research and development will suffer?
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:00 PM
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Yes. It's another way that Obama will kill you and your grandma. Ooo... he mentioned Milwaukee (w00t!!!)!!
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:02 PM
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As a medical researcher, let me answer that one for both of them....no.
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:02 PM
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Need wellness programs. HSA is a nice idea, but won't fix it.
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:01 PM
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87. Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery costs have decreased |
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and thats because of the market? Cmon KKKarl THats not health benefits thats cosmetic shit!
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:05 PM
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90. IF it was true what KKKarl said about govt buerocrats telling people what to do with their health |
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,,, I really wish I was one when his mother was pregnant,,,
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:07 PM
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91. Crap. I missed the last question. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:12 PM
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92. And that's a wrap.... Dean WINZ!! |
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:bounce: :bounce: :patriot: :patriot: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:13 PM
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93. and Karl goes to jail n/t |
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:15 PM
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94. PeaceNicki yew iz awsome!..Thanks! |
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Great job-I seriously suggest you consider turning pro...
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:20 PM
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95. Rove made a BIG McCain type mistake. Howard should have called him on it |
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Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 08:30 PM by DFW
Rove said the Taliban allowed 9/11 to happen and so we ran them out of Afghanistan, and so they went into Iraq, and so we went after them there.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
The Taliban were never anywhere near Iraq, and even if he didn't know the difference between the Taliban and Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq either until Bush's money-driven invasion allowed them a free ticket in.*
Rove is quick on his feet with the phony facts and the propaganda (notice his voice rose like a campaign speech whenever he was short of facts and long on emotion), but he had lies and hot air--just delivered them better than many Republicans do. Howard was nice, but he really IS a nice guy. He was still on target and factual where Rove was either playing to emotion or flat-out wrong. Yelling wouldn't change that, and if the audience couldn't figure that out, then their university needs its status to be degraded to an elementary school.
on edit--of course, to Rove and the Bushies, they were all "towel-heads," anyway, and nothing more than blanket excuses for handing Halliburton and Blackstone several hundred billion of our money, so why would Rove care in the first place?.
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:41 PM
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96. Well PeaceNikki, I came in too late to see it, but I just now read |
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this thread. Loved your play by play. LOL. Thanks.
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Fri Sep-11-09 08:43 PM
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97. It will be available to see at that link for two weeks Jim. |
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98. Thanks - good to know. I will save that link. |
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