thunder rising
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Fri Sep-11-09 09:54 PM
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All this and and yet 65K H1-B visas will still be handed out ...65K Americans displaced regardless |
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I just stole the paragraph below from the DK front page.
Meteor Blades lists all these gloom stats and the only thing I can think is that even with all this unemployment, 65K more H1-B will be given jobs ahead of Americans. Even better, will simply replace them.
------------------------------------------ Economic Outrage du Jour
One striking thing about statistics in the Great Recession is the sheer number of times you can say the worst rise in 60 years or the steepest decline since records have been kept. A record number of people collecting unemployment benefits. A record number of people using food stamps. A record number of new foreclosures. The largest one-month increase in jobless Americans since 1949. A record number of Americans unemployed for more than six months. For the first time ever, more private-sector services jobs than goods-producing jobs lost. And on and on. That's just the beginning of a seemingly endless list.
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:35 PM
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:41 PM
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2. Congress should be locked up as traitors and that day will |
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come all the things they have signed for will haunt them
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:51 PM
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3. This is such bullshit. |
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These corporatist assholes claim "but but but we can't find any Americans who can do these jobs"
Bullshit. And until every available American HAS a job, they shouldn't be allowed to outsource or "insource" any jobs to foreign nationals.
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Sat Sep-12-09 08:24 AM
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13. Translated: They can't find anyone who's 30, has 25 years experience and will work for 24k/yr. |
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This country will continue to go down the crapper unless we force corporations and the wealthy to sign a goddamned Magna Carta of some kind. They should not have personhood and they damn sure should not have all the power they do.
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:51 PM
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4. Don't forget outsourcing!! |
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My brother had a high tech computer job, making over $200,000 a year. That is, until they moved his job over to India.
Now he's pounding nails with another brother, doing home repairs and barely getting by.
Yeah, stay in college, it really pays. At least if you have a college education you will have the knowledge of how badly you're being screwed by Washington.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:57 PM
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6. You're not going to get that education in college |
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unless they are training you to be part of the problem.
The LAST thing anybody in Washington wants known is how badly we're being screwed by them.
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:54 PM
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5. What a load of horse shit. n/t |
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Fri Sep-11-09 11:12 PM
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7. Brownies taking jobs from us whites |
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Fri Sep-11-09 11:26 PM
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8. ahhh the ones coming in by me are very white..from Serbia, Romania, Croatia and eastern block |
thunder rising
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Sat Sep-12-09 04:37 AM
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10. Also, it's not the "brownies" that is the problem; it is the US Government that is allowing |
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to happen. The H1-B visas are not a product of nature, but a product of our government. This has nothing to do with racism nor xenophobia. As proof, nobody cared about the practice before the displacement became obvious.
This is the fact, American (Euro, Latino, Asian, African IOW all of us) are being put on the streets.
It would not end the problem of unemployment, but the Congress could stop the H1 and L visas for a few years.
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Sat Sep-12-09 07:20 AM
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12. Do you know how many times DUers have pointed those, and other facts, out? They do not listen... |
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Sat Sep-12-09 09:56 AM
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18. absolutely..that was my point as well..it has nothing to do with racism.. |
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its all eastern block people coming into my area! They are working in restaurants, stores, housekeeping,gas stations...you name it ..and all are from eastern block nations. And most are college age.
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Deja Q
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Sat Sep-12-09 07:17 AM
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11. Do you have ANYTHING that could even begin to back up your baseless and wild accusation? |
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If not, go lynch yourself.
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Deja Q
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Sat Sep-12-09 12:40 PM
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19. BTW: With offshoring, plenty of non-whites are losing out in America too. |
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So STFU. Please. Pretty-please with porcupines on top.
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Fri Sep-11-09 11:35 PM
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9. Corprat greed knows NO bounds - it's utterly psychopathic.n/t |
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Sat Sep-12-09 08:30 AM
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14. I don't hear the corporate paid teabaggers complaining about this. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 08:31 AM by Joanne98
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Deja Q
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Sat Sep-12-09 12:44 PM
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22. They'll find some sort of bullshit spin - but a TB'er at work DOES complain against it. |
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Sat Sep-12-09 08:31 AM
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15. I work with 2 people here on H1-B visas. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 08:31 AM by Avalux
While they are both capable and intelligent (albeit there is a bit of a language issue), there's no reason why it was necessary to 'import' talent. Those jobs could have been filled by American citizens.
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Sat Sep-12-09 08:55 AM
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16. Wanna make it three H1-Bs in your office ... say that at work. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 08:56 AM by thunder rising
The issue is using H1-B visas to force down wages and financially terrorize the working population ... and nothing else.
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Sat Sep-12-09 09:43 AM
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17. there's waaaaaay more than 65k per year |
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becasue there's an additional 20,000 'masters only' h-1b bringing to total up to 95k
plus, there unlimited educational, non-profit and research, even if deplyed from a for profit body shop
plus, some years they simply just go over the cap by 10-20 k
h-1b total estimated at 120,000 per year at least
then, there's about 23,000 F1 OPT training visas that are 29 month (Obama just defended this increase in court)
then there's the 3 year NAFTA TN status increased to 3 years in the last year or so, so no mexican or canadian needs an H-1b visa
and then there's the L1 visa, which is unlimied an at least 50 k per year
it's way over 200,000 per year, not 65k
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Sat Sep-12-09 12:42 PM
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21. Which, tits for tats, explains a considerable chunk of the 300~500k job losses per month. |
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