Who said it? ''Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories.''

[Octafish]

GEORGE W. BUSH, the psycho on the right.



"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous
conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th;
malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists,
themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame ethnic hatred is to advance
the cause of terror." -- GW Bush speaks to United Nations, November 10, 2001

Why did Bush want everybody to STFU regarding who was behind September 11?

At the time, Cheney, Bush and Co. were doing their best to associate Saddam Hussein with the attacks.

We know how well that's turned out.

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Who said it? "These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/

[Octafish]

2. The point is the ''administration'' used the attacks to attack Iraq.

Tony Blair had to remind Bush that the first country to attack was Afghanistan. Bush wanted to attack Iraq.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article319993.ece

Gee. Even Paul O'Neill, Bush's Secretary of Treasury, said Bush, at the first National Security Council meeting in January, 2001, wanted to attack Iraq.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml

Edit: Forgot link and O'Neill was Treasury Secretary, not Commerce.

[AzDar]

4. Let's face it... George W. Bush was going to attack Iraq from the moment he stole the election.

He used this country's blood and treasure to avenge/impress his Daddy.

He probably feels complete now; like his life's work has been done.


The truly shocking thing is that he was ALLOWED to do it.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that he keeps a video of Saddam's lynching right next to a bottle of Astroglide in his private bathroom in Texas.

[Mythsaje]

9. Before then...

He announced his intentions to his biographer in 1999.

[Bolo Boffin]

14. "To inflame ethnic hatred"

What do you think Bush meant by that? Which "outrageous conspiracy theories" could been seen as stirring up ethnic hatred?

ETA: Yes, the irony of Bush cooking up his own conspiracy theory involving Iraq and 9/11 is quite apparent. Is it something you think we've forgotten?

[Mythbuster]

17. In "March of 2002" a year before invading Iraq

I'm pretty sure it was Time that first published the quote, but it's definitely one of my favorites for proving Bush had a predetermined agenda. Bush reportedly poked his head in on a meeting Condi was having with three senators and proclaimed "Fuck Saddam. we're taking him out." Time was kind enough to print it as "F___ Saddam. we're taking him out."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/timep.saddam.tm/

[Ghost Dog]

22. Asia Times asked some questions yesterday about missing facts:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KI11Ak02.html

[Bolo Boffin]

23. Tell you what

Pick out the five most important questions to you on that page and I'll give you the best answer I have for them.

[wildbilln864]

3. Thank you! k&r! nt

:hi:

[Name removed]

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[BlooInBloo]

5. Notes that "always" is not the logical opposite of "never".

[Octafish]

15. And THAT is what's wrong with secret government...

Blair and Bush 'conspired to go to war regardless of United Nations'

[MisterP]

6. anyone who insists that there are no conspiracies died before 1973

either physically or mentally, trapped in a quaint Hofstadter world of a broad center-liberal/center-right consensus, under threat by the far left and right
they've erased from their memories any hint of Watergate, Sy Hersh, the Church Committee, Dan Mitrione, Howard Hunt, Liddy, Iran-Contra, Iraq, or the National Security Archive
writing even 20 pages of history under a National Security state means accounting for at least 1 conspiracy! tell any historian of the 20th century there can be no conspiracies and--well...

[SidDithers]

32. Evidence of some conspiracies is not evidence of all conspiracies..nt

Sid

[Octafish]

34. True, that. It's also true that the Bushes have been involved in them since plot against FDR.

Wall Street's Fascist Plot to Seize the White House

More: Timeline of Treason

They're probably nice people, but their politics are another matter.

Edit: bad link fixed.

[Name removed]

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[Beam Me Up]

11. Happens rather a lot, actually. n/t

[omega minimo]

10. and they played the race card.

[Octafish]

19. Ironic, considering Christian Dominionist and Reconstructionist ideology of players.

It was compared to a Crusade and there's money to be made by that ilk.

Did Republican ties turn a Prince into Iraq’s security king?

[Name removed]

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[Octafish]

20. People say the strangest things. Randy ''Duke'' Cunningham, f'r instance...

A Vision of Peace in the Middle East

Fathers and sons, too.

[Sebastian Doyle]

13. General Wes Clark admits that the Bush Crime Family tried to pressure him into blaming 9/11 on Iraq

From NBC's Meet The Press 6/15/03....

CLARK: "There was a concerted effort during the fall of 2001, starting immediately after 9/11, to pin 9/11 and the terrorism problem on Saddam Hussein."

RUSSERT: "By who? Who did that?"

CLARK: "Well, it came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, 'You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.' I said, 'But--I'm willing to say it, but what's your evidence?' And I never got any evidence."

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1842

[Octafish]

25. ''This administration has taken us on a path to nowhere...''

" -- replete with hyped intelligence, macho slogans and an incredible failure to see the obvious," Clark said.

THIS General Opposed the Iraq War Before it Started !!!! Loudly

General Clark hasn't been on the tee vee much these days.

[RufusTFirefly]

16. Yes, but the faith-based "Nah! They wouldn't do THAT!" trumps all factual evidence. n/t

[Octafish]

24. Rockefeller: Bush Duped Public On Iraq

A big concern is why Congreff never seems able to follow-up on lying American into war -- cough TREASON! -- with investigations...

Rockefeller: Bush Duped Public On Iraq

CBS News Exclusive: W.Va. Senator Says Invasion Unnecessary Even If Saddam Would Still Be In Power

By Christine Lagorio
Sept. 9, 2006

(CBS) When the Senate Intelligence Committee released a declassified version of its findings this past week, the Republican chairman of the committee, Pat Roberts, left town without doing interviews, calling the report a rehash of unfounded partisan allegations.

Its statements like this one, made Feb. 5, 2003, by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell that have become so controversial, implying Iraq was linked to terror attacks.

"Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an associated collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda lieutenants," Powell said.

But after 2 1/2 years of reviewing pre-war intelligence behind closed doors, the lead Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia, who voted for the Iraq War, says the Bush administration pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.

"The absolute cynical manipulation, deliberately cynical manipulation, to shape American public opinion and 69 percent of the people, at that time, it worked, they said 'we want to go to war,'" Rockefeller told CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. "Including me. The difference is after I began to learn about some of that intelligence I went down to the Senate floor and I said 'my vote was wrong.'"

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/09/eveningnews/main1990644.shtml

The only slack I want to cut warmongers I can't mention.

[autorank]

18. Ironic since he came up with the most ourrageous conspiry theory of all n/t k*r

[Octafish]

28. Following 9-11, Bush & 7 top officials waged an orchestrated campaign of misinformation.

"...a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation..." sounds illegal for those "leading" a democracy.

False Pretenses

Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
PublicIntegrity.org
January 23, 2008

President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.

On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war.

It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.

In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric.

President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Powell had the second-highest total in the two-year period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. Rumsfeld and Fleischer each made 109 false statements, followed by Wolfowitz (with 85), Rice (with 56), Cheney (with 48), and McClellan (with 14).

CONTINUED...

http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CIOEgKCp7JwCFSUMDQodSFS6jA

Shouldn't Congreff or the Department of Justice or somebody be investigating lying America into war?

[autorank]

38. Their lying was ubiquitious

This article is a masterpiece and a key document in evaluating the Bush people and the massive
deceptions that were well known but ignored.

Here is my modest list of what was known by those who voted for the Iraq War Resolution. It's
a sad tale that demonstrates the utter contempt that those who govern have for the process and
the people whom they serve:

"They" Knew the truth well before the Iraq War

BEFORE THEY VOTED, THE KNEW IT WAS A SCAM
http://electionfraudnews.com/MoneyParty/TheyKnew.htm

From: The Money Party (5): "Us" Vs. "Them"

[juno jones]

21. K&R! While I still can.

I don't know if it's mihop, lihop or ihop, but they've certainly let nothing since fall to chance. While the liberals were still rallying behind the pres in 'time of emergency', they done signed a bunch of rights away. We're now involved in a couple of wars and have a growing militariztion of our police not to mention the employment of mercenaries within our borders.


I knew crap like this was going to happen as soon as I heard the news. It was even tougher then, because back then pretty much nobody would listen. 'Course we still have a dungeon even here, even with proof that these fuckers are dirty, torturing, lying, conspirators.

[Octafish]

29. ''Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.''

-- Dick "Sneer" Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

A handy chart:



Source:

The War Card - Organized Deception on the Path to War

Thank you, juno jones, for giving a damn. You've earned more than a Bozo Button in the Grand Prize Game of life.

[peekaloo]

26. He and Poopy sure are vigilant about warning us about conspiracy theories.

:think:

I also remember Tom Daschle stating he received calls from both requesting (ha) he not delve too deep into the investigation.

[Octafish]

31. George H.W. Bush’s Eulogy for Gerald R. Ford

It must get confusing in Kennebunkport during the holidays, with all that plausible deniability going around the table...

George H.W. Bush’s Eulogy for Gerald R. Ford

The New York Times
Published: January 2, 2007

Following is the transcript of the eulogy for former President Gerald R. Ford delivered today by former President George H.W. Bush in Washington, as recorded by The New York Times.

EXCERPT…

After a deluded gunman assassinated President Kennedy, our nation turned to Gerald Ford and a select handful of others to make sense of that madness. And the conspiracy theorists can say what they will, but the Warren Commission report will always have the final definitive say on this tragic matter. Why? Because Jerry Ford put his name on it and Jerry Ford’s word was always good.

A decade later, when scandal forced a vice president from office, President Nixon turned to the minority leader in the House to stabilize his administration because of Jerry Ford’s sterling reputation for integrity within the Congress. To political ally and adversary alike, Jerry Ford’s word was always good.

SOURCE:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/washington/02cnd-ford-ghwb.html

They're really something, those grandfather-father-son political dynasties. Long-lived ones are very, very conservative, for one thing.

[Echo In Light]

27. Fought tooth & nail against ANY investigation! P N A C

[Octafish]

36. That's what my cop buddies found odd.

"He who excuses himself, accuses himself." -- Gabriel Meurier

It seems a handy excuse is needed on occassion:

Ministers were told of need for Gulf war ‘excuse’

[G_j]

30. I think he must post here...

:shrug:

[Individualist]

33. No; those are his DLC pals posting here.

[Octafish]

39. I made a HUGH mistake.

I wrote:

GEORGE W. BUSH, the psycho on the right.

It should read:

GEORGE W. BUSH, the LYING psycho on the right.

The Bush Administration's Top 40 Lies about War and Terrorism

Hope that makes clear who's who and what's what.

[SidDithers]

35. And then there's this...

Sid

[Octafish]

37. Agree completely. Thing is, this is about Bush blaming specific parties as he lied at the U.N.

Bush blamed “terrorists” supported by Saddam Hussein. That was one lie.

Click here to learn more documented examples.

Edit: Different link

[OneBlueSky]

40. the most egregious conspiracy theory of all is the "official story" of what happened . . .

on 9/11 . . . I don't claim to know what DID happen, but everything I've read, seen, listened to, and studied about that event (and it's a lot) has convinced me that whatever it was, it wasn't what the government wants us to believe . . .

maybe someday the truth will come out . . . then again, it's been almost a half century since JFK, and we still don't know the truth about that tragedy, either . . .

[Octafish]

41. There was no ''detective work'' done before the blame Iraq meme got out and about.

The guy said he's a "war president," which sounds, em, brave.

The journalist Robert Scheer, before the cowardly LA Times canned him, pegged the moment:

"I made a decision to go to the United Nations. By the way, quoting a lot of their data — in other words — this is unaccounted-for stockpiles that you thought he had because I don't think America can stand by and hope for the best from a madman … " Bush said. Evidently the president has forgotten that the U.N. Security Council turned down his request to go to war because U.N. inspectors were crawling all over Iraq and were finding nothing.

War as an Excuse for Everything

As you note OneBlueSky, if the guy's a liar on big things like war, why should we believe anything else he says without corroboration?

[opihimoimoi]

42. Where were them Pouters then? The GOP is nothing but a group of Liars and Demonizers

Bullies and their Negative Traits....

Trouble makers

Instigators

Prevaricators

They have been losing lately...now they wish a win ort two to restore their Power...that they lost due to INCOMPETENCE

And we should TRUST THESE SAME DUDES???

Goo luck

[windoe]

43. I doubt whether W wrote his own speeches.

Especially speaking to the UN. I never got the feeling he even believed his own lies.

[jimlup]

44. These people were hiding something...

I don't believe the MIHOP stuff at all but I think a modified version of LIHOP is almost certainly correct and I believe that there is more than just circumstantial evidence pointing this way.

[Swamp Rat]

45. k&r

:hi: