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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:19 AM Original message |
Minn. has a nuke plant event |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. Didn't a DUer post a few days ago about the NRC handing out |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. i believe you are right! |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. Let's ask Tim Pawlenty to set up a tent and camp next to the reactor. |
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Pangolin2 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Or make him sit under an exit sign. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. ROFL!... |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. kicking back to pg. 1 |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Why are people unrecommending this? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. the nuke Barons pay well |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
77. Yeah, because you're so special they spend money trying to silence you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Deleted sub-thread |
ikri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Because it is a non-story? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Sure 'nough there... which is why they were handing out |
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ikri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Any proof of that or is it just hearsay? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. No, I *KNOW* someone posted that here, but I can't find the thread |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Deleted message |
lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Since there aren't any paid shills of the anti-nuke variety |
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ikri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. YOU brought it up |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
100. The "government" has supplied KI tablets to residents |
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mduffy31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. No they weren't |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Pills wouldn't do anything. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Uh, *I* didn't hand out the pills. And I am perfectly aware that |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Still nothing to back up your claim eh? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. See post 46 and 47. |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
83. so no link to the pills? |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
117. I didn't call you a liar |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I posted the link: It was Michigan that made iodine pills available to populations near nuke plants |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Iodine pills WERE made available for those near nuclear power plants this week (link) |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Ok, my bad, I saw MI and remembered MN. |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That makes sense |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The post on DU said that they were handed out |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
84. so basically |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I unrecommended this post. I am no paid shill. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And that's why I unrecc'd it too..nt |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. More than one did. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. Because there is no story here |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! (nt) |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
20. European Study: 3.5 excess Infant and in utero deaths due to nuclear projects |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Correction: Due to Atmospheric Atomic Weapons Testing. n/t |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Nope: Atmospheric Testing AND the Nuclear Fuel cycle |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. The numbers you refer to are from Past events. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Well, they could hardly be from future events, now, could they? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. The OP thought so. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
98. They are projected estimated deaths from nuclear power and tests |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
92. Yup it is cumulative like putting an elephant and feather on the same scale. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. This same bullshit post shows up about once every 3 weeks - and here it is again. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. If nukes didn't leak every few weeks (actually coninuously) then maybe... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Or if transformers connected to a nuclear plant didn't short out, it also wouldn't appear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Deleted sub-thread |
Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. Bush scrapped the plan to distribute iodine pills: said it hurt nuke industry |
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Pangolin2 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Okay, riddle me this. Who will they sell their power to after they kill off all the customers? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. They do not need to kill all the customers. They need to cull the herd... |
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Pangolin2 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. There are undoubtedly hedonistic necrophiles, but they are not who you seem to think they are. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
96. Wow. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. That's not what the story says... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. After seeing Liberation Angel's alarmist tripe fall flat several times |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. "NRC expressed concern that (pills) could undermine confidence in the safety of nuclear plants" |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You stand by your distortion of the story...nt |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. There is NO distortion. Bush decision will DENY pills to those exposed in an accident. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
89. Ever heard of the inverse square law? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. I depends on if it is in the water or air, if it is raining, where the wind is blowing |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Plumes of radation? WTF? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
125. Plumes of radioactive particulates in gas are released every day by nukes |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Congress Ordered it, Bush scrapped it. The logic is insane. SAFER NOT TO DISTRIBUTE THE PILLS? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. And yet you've posted in #32... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. NOW they are getting pills, that was announced THIS WEEK. Bush scrapped this in 2008. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. So if the Bush policy is no longer in effect... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Bush = Nuclear Industry = Pronuke policies on not distributing of pills |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
127. Well it must be up and going again. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. Why do we never get numbers? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Best post in the thread!... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. bullfeathers |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. The NRC and the industry hide the numbers |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. They didn't hide anything. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. They do all the time; and if you TRUST them I have a bridge in Brooklyn... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Monitoring is by the NRC. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Inspectors do not monitor the effluents, they monitor the plants |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Once again why would they expose themselves and their families to "lethal danger"? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. It's called "Denial", ignorance and effective brainwashing and a great paycheck. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. The report says below EPA limt for drinking water. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. bullshit OP title. Fuck this thread. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Nothing BS about it: it is from a website that tracks such events and alerts the public |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It's not a "nuke event"; which implies an out of control nuclear reaction. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Definition of "Nuclear Event" |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Gag me with a fucking spoon... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. No Nukes means no nuclear power plants AND no nuclear weapons for 30 years |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. And those people are just as hyperbolic as you. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. What's Hyperbolic about saying radiation kills or more rads kill more people? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Straw man. I never said that saying "radiation kills" is hyperbolic. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Why the Nuke Industry should be prosecuted for the deaths caused. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. You can not show a single death from commercial nuclear power |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
90. +1...nt |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
112. That is patently untrue |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. It's hard to believe.... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The Bigger the lie the easier it is to believe when it is repeated over and over again |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. "over and over" it is... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
68. War of Attrition: Jeez ensho, you started it! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Name a technology to power the tristate |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Solar-thermal power, maybe? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. or the power of prayer, we can miracle up the hundreds of gigawatts |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The technology already exists. It has existed for a very long time. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. The technology does not exist to generate 100 gigawats, rain or shine |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Yes, in fact, it does exist. No coal/no nukes either. See my ppst below |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Did you notice the 2050? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. "Support for coal and nuclear power retards the growth of renewable energy sources |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. You are a luddite. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. OHHH, I;m a Luddite! Wow! Bullshit. But if I were an Actual Luddite it would be good company |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Wow you are completely clueless. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Total fabrication: Ingested radioactive material IS ingesting radiation |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Yeah that is exactly what I said but not what you said. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Universities get their funds from industry not environmental groups |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #111 |
120. Well I showed you where you are wrong. You just don't want to know the truth. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Not wrong at all - you miss the fact that this is what their NORMAL operations permit |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. Renewables can do it and the technology exists |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
129. You are wrong |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. You won't be shaming any DU'ers out of supporting nuclear energy by using Bush, Cheney, Halliburton |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
108. Not the ones who aren't ashamed by it anyways |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. I'll take take your challenge of my heritage for what it is |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. self-delete... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Lets not go there |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
82. I would gladly drink from that well for the rest of my long life. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
88. EU could meet all its energy demand with renewables by 2050- (no coal/no nukes) So could we |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. 2050 is a long ways away. Should we turn off all the lights for next 40 years? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. Little by little we make the transition. I turn off my lights all the time |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. From the FIRST sentence in the article: "COULD... IF" |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. Not if pronukers have their way- we'll NEVER get renewables |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #105 |
121. For the love of god.... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. If you really love G-d, or the Earth, then none of the above (nukes, coal, oil) are the solutions |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Be scared of the biggest reactor ever...The sun |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Nukes can legally spew us w/ MORE radiation than the sun every day and we know the sun is dangerous |
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