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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:01 PM
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CNN: Tea party movement has anger, no dominant leaders
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:02 PM by Patsy Stone
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/12/tea.party.express/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

That the tea party movement has no leader at this point is just fine with Wierzbicki. He says right now the movement is centered on a few key issues: taxes, expansion and distrust of Obama.

"If there was a leader there might be a divisive factor," he says.

In Wierzbicki's plan, the movement doesn't need a leader until after the 2010 election.

"From then to 2012 is probably the period of time when you'll find a big national leader that will emerge that the majority of the people in this movement will feel comfortable following," he says.


Right. Why rush into anything like concrete ideas or leadership when you can just keep stirring up the ignorance and anger?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:02 PM
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1. They also don't have any ideas
What's their plan for healthcare? For anything?
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:16 PM
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4. What's their plan for healthcare?
Social Darwinism.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:49 AM
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17. Survival of the fittest?
Sounds about right.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:03 PM
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2. So they don't call glen bech a "dominate leader"?
He'll just have a good cry over that.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:09 PM
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3. Lunatics rarely step up to lead. nt
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:21 PM
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5. Okay, I can see no dominant leader
But what about leaders, plural? Even in a "leaderless" group, there are people who are more active than most-organizers, spokespeople, advisors. If nothing else, speakers.

This is proof that this is astroturf. Anything self-organized would have those people-folks would need to come forward and work full-time on a project like this-folks that the speakers would be coordinating with for the program, crowd marshals, money people. Nobody came forward because they are nothing but cattle led by corporate interests who did all the organizing.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:55 PM
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11. Right on!
:thumbsup:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:21 PM
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6. Their leadership is Freedomworks
and other astroturf organizations
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:25 PM
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9. +1
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:25 PM
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15. Not many of them, it's just a small dick armey with misspelled signs and pitchforks
oops I misspelled army! They remind me of the angry town mobs on the Simpsons, just less diverse.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:24 PM
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7. Even the segregationists had leaders
And what a pathetic pack that was: Thurmond, Wallace, Maddox...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:25 PM
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8. hhmmm they do have a leader
and it's name is ASTROTURF
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:27 PM
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10. Boo Hoo
They chose to sit idly by while Bush started two wars and handed out tax cuts, and now they wonder why our deficit is where it is. Higher taxes are on the way. It's time to pay the piper.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:56 PM
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12. Dick Armey is the leader...
It is an army of "dicks".
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:06 PM
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13. And lunatics:
"In Battle Creek, Michigan, a woman in her 60s says, 'I really don't want to be a guinea pig for the experiment they have with the population control.' In Canton, Ohio, a woman argues with an Obama supporter: 'He's going after our kids to try to indoctrinate them into a national defense army.'"
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:11 PM
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14. Danger Will Robinson. That's a recipe for disaster! Seriously, though.. SOMEONE is footing the bill
I've seen several PAID organizing positions for the Teabag movement. They're worded the same, and in various cities on Craigslist. They pay commission for signing people up to participate. I believe it will be some sort of faux citizens group funded by lobbyists... This is NOT a grassroots movement, someone is footing the bill. Follow the money.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:50 PM
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16. Here is one major funder I found: Richard Vigueire
From Houston Texas. Made fortune from direct mail advertising/marketing company, pioneered use of direct mail tactics for right wing political campaigns to counter what he perceived as a "liberal media bias". Fundraised billions for conservative causes. Launched website to support Ron Paul for president. Long associated with religious right,"moral majority" now rabid for libertarians. Runs seminars for tea baggers on tactics.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338052/posts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Viguerie


the only good thing I could find about him is that he's against capital punishment.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:56 AM
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19. Virguerie has been associated with everything bad for 40 years
In the late 70's, he was connected with the rogue CIA guys of the "Enterprise," who operated out of his offices at Leesburg Pike. A few years later, he got into financial trouble and was bailed out by Reverend Moon.

He was also behind the founding of some of the fake seniors groups that have more recently been doing the bidding of the pharmaceutic industry -- though I'll grant that he was only interested in scamming little old ladies out of their Security Security checks and not in ripping off the federal government through Medicare D.

And that's only what comes to me offhand -- if I started actually checking my files, I'd be here all night.

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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:49 AM
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18. Rebels without a clue. n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:23 AM
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20. i thought
they had "no dominant leaders" because their "leaders" are lobbyists and corporations which have to stay in the background lest their presence give away the fact that this is no grass roots movement.
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