It's NOT about INSURANCE or AFFORDABILITY- It's about GETTING THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY OUT!

[Orwellian_Ghost]

It's NOT about the INSURANCE or even the AFFORDABILITY (since we all know what a CROCK that is)

It's about GETTING THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY OUT OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT.

We need national Health CARE, SINGLE-PAYER UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE...not INSURANCE.

Most people are stretched to the limit as it is, and NO new insurance bill would be "affordable" to them. And even if it were a "cheap" premium, the co-pays & deductibles would eat them alive.

Anyone with half a brain knows that the insurance companies are salivating at the very thought of this "bold new plan"...just like big pharma did cartwheels at *²'s drug plan.

Requiring everyone to HAVE insurance is a lot different from a national health care system where every citizen is ENTITLED to health care (*as a right though their citizenship)

If a country/state is an entity, and the people IN it are citizens who pay taxes, what do THEY get out of the whole "deal"?

You get money in trade for your labor, and you send a portion to the state/country to do what?

start wars you don't approve of?
pocket the cash for themselves?
pay off all their cronies?
stage endless campaigns?

or

is the money we send them supposed to be for the common interests of ALL the people?
and to provide services on a large scale?

What is MORE important than a healthy populace?

[dipsydoodle]

1. I think you'll find

you'll need both running alongside each other as happens here in the UK.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Seems to me the BIC (bought in congress) are more concerned

about wealthcare rather than grandma's healthcare.



>>just like big pharma did cartwheels at *²'s drug plan<<

http://projects.publicintegrity.org/rx/report.aspx?aid=723

Most of the industry's political spending paid for federal lobbying. Medicine makers hired about 3,000 lobbyists, more than a third of them former federal officials, to advance their interests before the House, the Senate, the FDA, the Department of Health and Human Services, and other executive branch offices.

In 2003 alone, the industry spent nearly $116 million lobbying the government. That was the year that Congress passed, and President George W. Bush signed, the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003, which created a taxpayer-funded prescription drug benefit for senior citizens.

That figure was not anomalous. In 2004, drug makers upped their reported expenditures on lobbyists to $123 million, a record amount for the industry. Of the 1,291 lobbyists who were listed that year as prepresenting pharmaceutical corporations and their trade groups, some 52 percent were former federal officials.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

3. Bump