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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:45 AM
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BUSH: "Someday you guys are going to need to tell me how we ended up with a system like this."
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 10:46 AM by kpete
"Someday you guys are going to need to tell me how we ended up with a system like this."

-- President Bush, quoted in a must-read New Yorker piece to be published tomorrow, to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/09/13/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

TUESDAY, SEPT. 16: “That afternoon, President Bush, accompanied by Josh Bolten and Joel Kaplan, his chief of staff and deputy chief of staff, and by Keith Hennessey, the director of the National Economic Council, sat down with Paulson and Bernanke in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. ‘So what is going on in our financial system, and what are we going to do?’ Bush asked. Paulson regularly delivered updates to the White House, but from the outset of his tenure as Treasury Secretary he had been making policy to an extraordinary degree. Bush saw himself as a wartime President, and he was deeply involved in defense issues. The economy was secondary. One person who worked with Bush for many years said, ‘My sense is, this came up in the final months of an eight-year term. He was so ground down by Katrina, the war in Iraq. He was just out of gas.’ A government official added, ‘Hank Paulson and the Treasury were unilaterally making economic policy for the Administration. There was no influence from the White House.’ ‘A.I.G. is about to fail,’ Paulson told Bush, warning that a potential collapse was likely to be catastrophic, especially with markets still highly unstable after the Lehman failure. Bernanke explained A.I.G.’s credit-default swaps and the likely consequences that A.I.G.’s failure would have on major U.S. and European banks. He also described the limits on the Fed’s powers to deal with an institution like A.I.G. ‘How have we come to the point where we can’t let an institution fail without affecting the whole economy?’ Bush wondered aloud. Bernanke reiterated that what had begun as a subprime-mortgage problem in the U.S. was emerging as a global crisis, which made it even harder for the Fed to combat the problems on its own.

“When Bernanke and Paulson finished, Bush said, ‘Sometimes you have to make the tough decisions. If you think this has to be done, you have my blessing.’ But, as he rose to leave, he said, ‘Someday you guys are going to need to tell me how we ended up with a system like this. I know this is not the time to test them and put them through failure, but we’re not doing something right if we’re stuck with these miserable choices.’ …

way more - fascinating stuff:
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=7&subcatid=41&threadid=3008811
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:47 AM
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1. A moment of curiosity from Bush? This is a new one. nt
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:51 AM
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4. Possibly, a moment of incipient curiosity,
but quickly deferred to a later, unspecified time, so as not to have to actually pay any attention to what was going on.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:10 PM
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6. Must've been during one of brief periods of sobriety n/t
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:01 AM
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2. We ended with a system like this due to free trade and Reaganomics.
Republicons love stupid people so much, they make them President. Both the bush and ronny were idiots. That's how we got into this mess.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:49 AM
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3. "I'm, like, a war pResident 'n stuff. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 11:51 AM by SpiralHawk
"With a 'war' record like mine, no wonder the Republicons see me as a HEro. The only one they admire more than me is xVP Cheney, because he scored a record five (5) MILITARY deferments, but made a boodle on war profiteering -- the Republicon WAY. Smirk."

- xCommander AWOL (R)

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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:03 PM
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5. Complete incompetence. He delegated everything to...
...people who made bad decisions. Cheney on foreign policy...and, if this story is true..Paulsen on the economy. Then he stood by as they drove us off a cliff. He didn't take on any responsibility himself in the presidency. No wonder we citizens felt like he was absent...AWOL.

INCOMPETENCE.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:15 PM
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7. And as usual, someone has to tell Mr. Dumbfuck what is going on
in the real world. :eyes:
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:02 PM
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10. No shit
Hey Georgie, you stupid little man-child, don't you think you should ALREADY know a little about the system you're supposed to be running.

What a waste of air that piece of shit is.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:11 PM
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12. They told Clinton what his domestic agenda could and could not be, too
" You mean to tell me that the success of the program and my reelection hinges on the Federal Reserve and a bunch of ------- bond traders?

Now they're telling Obama.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:34 PM
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8. Bernanke and Paulson sold this wrong.
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 12:35 PM by Orsino
They should have promised Bush that their bailout would make a lot of his friends richer--instead, he lost interest and wandered off toward retirement.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:44 PM
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9. How? Why not ask Phil Gramm.
Idiot.
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dishgirl Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:05 PM
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11. economy and security are intertwined
"Bush saw himself as a wartime President, and he was deeply involved in defense issues. The economy was secondary."

He, and the rest of his people, forgot that the economy IS a security and defense issue. A nation with an unstable economy is vulnerable.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:11 PM
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13. Well said.
And a hearty welcome to DU, dishgirl.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:13 PM
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14. ''ground down by Katrina''?
Monkey didn't lift a finger to help those affected by Katrina, apart from the disaster profiteers.
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