The teabaggers protest failed, so they are all over the nets today posting false claims and pics

[prolesunited]

YOU LIE!

And that's the truth.

[RagAss]

1. More folks at OSU vs. USC game....40,000 more as a matter of fact !

Pitiful Assclown Teabags ! Get a fucking job !

[malaise]

30. The real hot air balloon show had over 175 thousand

spectators.

[Emit]

2. In all honesty, I don't think it failed.

It was a sizable crowd and they got full media coverage - front page of WaPo today and full live streaming video on CNN and CSPAN yesterday, with numerous reports from other M$M dispersed throughout the day.

As others have pointed out this morning, the size of the crowd does not matter - the perception that follows will. This will become a great success story for conservative (sic) grassroots, mark my words.

[Lex]

4. Last gasp of the angry white racists.

I think that's how most will perceive it. What's their real beef--a black man as President. Most people know that.

[Emit]

5. They are not going away and they play for keeps

FreedomWorks, for example, is well-funded and targets college students, and well as fringe people/groups who are more apt to 'show up.'

It's one thing to make fun of them, or point out their overt racism, etc. - but, we cannot ignore them.

[Lex]

6. No, I doubt they'll go away. But they are marginalizing themselves.

They hyped the hell out of this event and got what? 50K to show up? That's small time.

[Tejas]

9. Belittlement and shouts of racism

"They hyped the hell out of this event and got what? 50K to show up? That's small time."


50k is a heck of a lotta people, to discount that with snide remarks is foolish.

[Lex]

12. 50K is a lot of people . . . for a dinner party. For a DC protest? Nope.

Call me foolish if you want. It doesn't change anything.

[Tejas]

21. The National Mall is larger than your mother's basement.

This ranting of yours (and others) about numbers won't change the geography of the National Mall. They had the attendance, so get over it.

[Lex]

24. WTF--why are you talking about the Inauguration? I wasn't

This 9/12 event was laughable. 50,000 is a blip.

[Tejas]

26. It shows the capacity of the site.

Your math is flawed, but don't let that stop you.

Weren't any Dems in that crowd either eh?

[Lex]

34. "My math" is flawed?

LOL.

[Ikonoklast]

39. Some people have trouble with reality.

Arguing with them only re-inforces the delusions they hold.

This one doesn't believe in logic, either.


We had more people attend a local Labor Day barbecue.

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. What does the capacity of the site have to do with the teabaggers protest??

They didn't fill the mall. Not by a longshot. So who cares what the capacity us?

[Tejas]

42. Fine, daydream that there were only 35 people in attendance

Don't think for yourself, just parrot it like all the other cheerleaders.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Show me where I said there were 35 people there

[dbonds]

11. Can we at least get them seperate drinking fountains...

I don't want to drink after them :satire:

[Swamp Rat]

13. Good. They will cause the GOP to shrink to a small faction nutjobs.

May they be as vocal and pro-active as ever. :)

[Emit]

16. I hope they will continue to expose themselves for who they really are.

Already, the GOP is being torn to bits, with their racist diatribes, with Ron Paul Libertarians giving them a run for their money, and for all their faux family values crap that manifests itself in an oddly high number of Repug marital affairs and various indiscretions, just to name a few. :rofl:

My fear, and perhaps it's unfounded, is that some of these folks organizing are authoritarian right wing radicals of the Rove et al type, esp in reference to FreedomWorks.

[Swamp Rat]

17. I do not think your fear is necessarily unfounded - we need to watch the Karl Roves and Dick Armeys

24/7 from now on. They must not be left to their own devices, and some, like Rove should be hoisted up with his on petard.

However, I believe the GOP is in its "last throes" as a political contender. In 20 years, it will have only a few seats at the table, occupied by radicals.

[ThoughtCriminal]

20. Compared to Mom's basement...

anything looks like a huge crowd.

Anytime they can get more people than porta-potties, it becomes "Legendary".

[Emit]

23. Well, especially with M$M fawning all over them

with wild exclamations of 'huge crowds' and whatnot.

[marshall]

37. It remains to be seen how the health care legislation (and others) will be affected

Lawmakers are doing a back and forth jig regarding important issues on health care. We will have to wait and see what finally comes out.

[krister]

3. Even Faux News reported "tens of thousands".

"The tens of thousands of protesters marched to the U.S. Capitol"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/12/tea-party-express-arrives-march-washington-protest-government-spending/

[prolesunited]

8. So if Malkin is a guest on a program and claims 1 million

with the anchor correct her?

[krister]

10. Of course they will!!!

::sarcasm::
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[Uben]

7. What protest?

I didn't see nuttin.

[kim the waitress]

14. So what was the official count of the crowd? I heard last night

on CNN top of the hour radio that there were tens of thousands and maybe hundreds of thousands. Why the debate? In this day and age, it would seem to be easy to verify...

[nc4bo]

15. Sorry but hundreds of thousands it was not. Go dig on some of Obama's speeches and Inaug. Day

and you will know, without a doubt, what 100k REALLY looks like.

Let the beer bellied horseshit gawkers have their fantasy. :rofl:

:hi:

[SecularMotion]

28. There is no official count

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6531875

[BlueIdaho]

18. The more extreme the better

The more hate filled, extreme, and insane they become the more they push themselves away from the majority of Americans. Let them all carry guns, wear hoods, and shriek at the top of their lungs about how every government program needs to be torn down. Most rational adults are smart enough to sense that in the abstract they may dislike "big government" they also don't want to lose the programs that make their lives better.

[Contrary1]

19. The bigger question would be "What did they accomplish"?

Nothing, in my opinion. Makes the total number of those who showed up irrelevant.

[Piwi2009]

22. Whats the big deal about the size of the teabagger crowd?

Hell if McCain got 59 million votes last Nov, and Limpballs has 15 million listeners rightwads are certainly capable of having a million people on the mall. I'd worry if they had big numbers in the legislature.

[Lex]

25. Constant lies from them

is standard operating procedure. Heck, maybe they'll claim a brazillion showed up.

[Lagomorph]

27. Here, count them yourself.

It's a bunch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPud1TeubM

[foo_bar]

33. nice, 38 sec. of time lapse photography of one intersection

1.5 to 2 million people march on Washington D.C Tea Party protest rally September 12 2009 9 12 09 Thanks Glenn Beck 9-12 project Freedom Plaza <...>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPud1TeubM ("1.5 to 2 million march on Washington D.C Tea Party protest rally")

Subtle. Of course to "count them yourself" you'd have to not recount the same people across time, so the best you can do (without digitally de-duping headcounts from the low-quality mpeg with compression artifacts) is pick one freeze frame (of circa 5,000 people?) and pretend it represents a million folks offscreen; alternately, you can pretend that each frame represents a completely unique set of protesters since teabaggers walk so fast. Either way, it's pure fantasy:

Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally Saturday that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance.

At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large. ABCNews.com reported an approximate figure of 60,000 to 70,000 protesters, attributed to the Washington, D.C., fire department. In its reports, ABC News Radio described the crowd as "tens of thousands."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055

[Lagomorph]

41. It's just a traffic cam.

It's the only thing I've seen. It isn't 20,000, it isn't two million.

Neither the media nor the government was there to record the size of the event. There've been no strategically placed cameras or aerial shots to work with. It's been pure speculation.

[SoCalDem]

29. Actually they "succeeded". The media covered it pretty thoroughly

and even today, it's being talked about..

There is no way to accurately "get the numbers", so each protest group wants to bump up their numbers.

No one will ever prove exactly how many showed up.

We have to face facts,,

republicans always "win", when it comes to media coverage.. they are the "default" ..we are the upstarts, rabble-rousers, counter-culture,

When they protest, media seeks out Moms with strollers & grandpas with oddly spelled signs..we we protest they look for bearded hippie-types, and people with colorful puppets

The goal is to portray them as patriotic (if misguided) folks whose hearts are in the right place.. we are the ones who want to turn things upside down.

because we don't "deal" in catchy two-word nonsensical slogans, the media has no use for us.

[jonnyblitz]

31. I am not sure it was a fail, it is all anybody has been talking about

for a few days. that's more than can be said about our protests during Bush.

[Lex]

36. Not having watched much TV over the weekend

I haven't seen much about it all. Seems like if anyone watched sports or had obligations other than watching 24 hour cable news all weekend, it was only a blip.

[bdamomma]

32. it's our turn we should be out there too.

we need to show them that we are reality based.

[DeadEyeDyck]

35. Bingo!

Why not. Hadn't we always been better to organize? More cohesive? More focused? More passion? More energy?

Did you see the people in the crowds? 80% were past menapause and I bet the trash-cans were full of used Depends.

We have the youth, the diversity and the powerful leaders. Why are we not doing this?

[bdamomma]

40. I don't know if you watched Bill Maher on Friday

but he said those out there on Saturday got the news coverage and we just sit on our couches yelling at the TV, we need to kick some butt, and get out there for health care. such BS going on with this whole issue.