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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:31 PM
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Poll question: Will sacrificing progressives in the Democratic Party for more Corporate donations
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 01:31 PM by mmonk
bring or guarantee Democratic victories in 2010, 2012, and beyond?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:32 PM
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1. It will bring more Democratic but fewer progressive victories.
Hey wasn't that tried already, circa 1992?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:40 PM
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2. It's been a recurring theme. If Senate Democrats get their way,
I was wondering if anyone thought it would benefit the party. I don't think so in this case, especially since killing off progressive legislation doesn't make people on the right give up Republican ideals. Even now while Republicans make fools of themselves, it won't produce what they are seeking IMO.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:00 PM
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3. The big shift in fundraising in general
Is away from the part of the curve where funding is larger gifts from fewer sources and toward the part of the curve where funding is smaller gifts from more sources. This is a good thing and we need to keep moving in this direction. It gives us power, legitimacy and freedom.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:12 PM
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4. Has it been shown that sacrificing progressives brings in more corp. cash?
For tax purposes, many progressive organizations are incorporated.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:14 PM
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5. The democrats are blowing it. They could own the political future for decades

If they choose to fight the fight for real health reform instead of trying to protect their corporate dollars from the health insurance companies and big pharm

The miscalculated this one, BIG TIME>
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:21 PM
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6. Have any of these sacrifices been televised? Maybe that would bring in money. . .
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 02:23 PM by emulatorloo
I guess I don't agree with your premise. Progressive caucus is working hard, apparently they are having some impact and are on board with Obama on healthcare after the speech.

Axelrod: Obama Firm on Public Option-"not willing to accept that it's not going to be final package"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6539535
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:31 PM
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7. Democrats never fail to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory though I see their conundrum
If they crap on corporate America too much, they will be subjected to ratfucking the likes of which would make Richard Nixon blush.

Witness the take down of Howard Dean when he was the front runner in the polls. Did they do it based on his personal life or even god forbid ISSUES? No.

They did the stupid scream video over and over.

That's better than a bullet to the head, but the message is the same. If you cross a certain line, and don't kiss our ring with sufficient passion, you're done.
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