Damn lazy Sunday Afternoon,

[nadinbrzezinski]

some rain, or are those more properly called Sprinkles? are falling outside... hubby went to work... he works on Sunday ok folks, somebody has to process your packages for tomorrow morning.... and here I am, drinking a latte (I love my twenty five year old espresso machine), and nursing a bad cold. I am watching the "kids" (Parrots) play, and nothing good on the teevee machine... so food network it is...

That said, I cannot get rid of the sense of how split the country is... and also the need to say some falsehoods.

So here is one of them... the LEFT... we have a left? Damn, that would be news to me. We really do not have an organized left. The last we had was probably in the 1950s but reality is that what would be a real left ended with McCarthy.

Then we have a RIGHT, that is not that well organized, at the roots, what it is is very well financed, and they keep screaming about them damn commies and reds and all that... which goes over the head of anybody thirty or under. Commie, is that a rare thing at the zoo? Or something one can catch? And how infectious is it?

That said, those folks who went to DC yesterday are doing this because they believe in whatever astroturf is being told to them. And one reason, which thankfully some folks are actually voicing, is the color of skin of the man in the WH... I mean they'd have no issue with a black man as part of the staff, but PResident? They do have an issue, and they see the mythical America that never existed melting away. They see all these minorities taking over their country, and threatening them. This is a direct challenge to their economic well being, real or perceived it does not
matter.

Now fear is a powerful motivator and I do fear, and that is the correct term, FEAR, that violence is coming. There people honesty believe they have nothing else to lose, and those handling the words and stoking the fires don't care. In fact, they believe in this crap. I know that the US came this close to something nasty in the 1930s, and now we are that close again.

So anyway, I now wait for that to happen... since I know it will take one or two crazies... to start this... and no, I don't expect the blue and the gray marching down. In fact, it may have already started, the way I expect it to happen. We have had a few folks murdered on BOTH sides... and so it begins.

Oh well, will watch the birds play fetch, they do... and drink my coffee and nurse my cold. There is nothing I can do at this point to stop this. And so is life...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Oh, I hear you!

A lazy Sunday afternoon indeed...

Windows open, the breeze blowing through...

It will indeed happen. The question is now: How will it end?

Excellent rant...

K&R

:patriot:

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. It is muggy too

:-)

[MadMaddie]

4. CaliforniaPeggy I can guarantee that it won't end the way the

right wing terrorist think it will! We are not our predecessors from the 50's, 60's and 70's....just sayin....:patriot:

My oh My the weather is delightful in the NW.....

[Fire1]

9. You are more meek and much milder than those of us from

the 60's and 70's. IF there was a draft, I doubt seriously if one flag would get burned or draft card for that matter. Folks now days are too preoccupied with American Idol, keeping their jobs (those who still have them)and trying to survive by keeping their head above water. I'm not even worried. LOL!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. If there was a draft you would have resistance

and like the sixties it would take time to organize, but you would have it.

Now my question is...would you have photos of the event?

Oh and before you say it, resistance to the draft didn't really start until '67 that is when it really got truly organized, once the Civil Rights Act was signed. It got its max by '72

Knowing a little history is a good thing

[Fire1]

13. Sure is especially when you saw it. No pictures of the

resistance b/c I was too busy crawling around on the floor of our home dodging bullets and staying out of the way of the national guard tanks rolling down the street enforcing the curfew during the riot.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Which one of the many riots

of which we have pictures....

And most of them had nothing to do with the draft, or at least directly.

[Fire1]

15. I specified no pictures of the 'resisstance,' meaning the

draft and anti-war demonstrations. I was smack in the middle of the 1967 Detroit Riot.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Now that was a hell of a riot

but we have photos of those.

Somehow I doubt it we would have them today.

In fact we don't. We had an LAPD SWAT unit disperse a group of demonstrators in 2002 iirc, the only photo that has ever emerged was one posted by indymedia... it was outside an armory and Iirc involved an M-60 as well.

Let me see if I can find it

Here you go



Tell me did you see that one?

[Fire1]

18. Can't click on the pic. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. weird, I'll give you the other link

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2004/11/tanks_in_la.html&usg=__1UJRJHZ-EXCPspaiPyWoqH1GNhk=&h=216&w=288&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=ZwaOyDdMS1eU1M:&tbnh=86&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dindymedia%2Band%2B2002%2Band%2Bla%2Btank%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1


Oh and I was wrong on the year, it was 2004

[Fire1]

Good pic! It DOES look familiar. "Quagmire" rings a bell. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Yeah but if my BIL had not sent me that photo

which I have now saved, I'd not know about it. Not even the local LA stations covered it.

The Rodney King Riots, they were all over, and that was the LAST riot that I remember that the media covered.

That is why I say, if we had a massive riot right now burning an American city, unless they could find a proper angle to make them reds (or other enemy of the day) look bad... they will not show it.

[Fire1]

23. I know I didn't see it in a paper. I'm thinking 20/20, Dateline or

60 minutes.

[MadMaddie]

24. You are probably right about the draft.

I was really referring to if they start any violence, it won't be just blacks responding it will be the 70% of America who is sick of their bullying, hate filled acts.

I do know a lot of people that don't like the military so I wouldn't be surprised if there were to be a backlash like the 60's or 70's.

I served as a reservist, my whole family has a military background.

[kentuck]

3. It may help when..

people start working again?

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. This has a hsitory, the cold phase started under Clinton

[kentuck]

6. What do you mean, nadin?

What "cold phase"?

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. All Civil Wars have two phases, the cold phase

where langauge becomes coarsened and you see a division of the two sides... whether this is the US... look at the 1840s and 1850s... or Bosnia, or the Mexican Civil war, (The 1890s were particularly nasty).

The Right went after Clinton in ways that have led to a coarsening of the language and hate. We are seeing the same pattern

We could have stopped this a few years back, but the bush administration didn't want to... nor was capable... they benefited. At this point, I am not sure we can do much except wait for the hot phase to start. I have sneaky suspicion it already did... violence has increased since the inauguration and now we have had the murder of an anti abortion activist. That got MY attention since it does fit the pattern.

[kentuck]

10. I did read that the President gets 400 death threats per day..

Many times more than George W Bush or Bill Clinton?

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Wouldn't shock me

even if he was white would not shock me

[Fire1]

7. Beautiful day here! Church service was great too! Roasted

chicken turned out great! coif great! Manicure great! Just a GREAT DAAAAAY!!!

[BlooInBloo]

17. Thank gawd for football.

[kentuck]

20. Did you see the ending to that Broncos-Bengals game?

I'm a Bronco fan and I was about ready to give up on them when they let Cincinnati march all the way down the field and score the go-ahead touchdown with 38 seconds left in the game, making the score 7-6. Then the Denver punt returner tried to run the kickoff out of the endzone and was stopped at the 13-yard line with about 32 seconds left in the game. The first pass from the Denver quarterback was incomplete along the right sideline, leaving about 28 seconds in the game. The next pass was simply a "Hail Mary" pass down the field to Denver's best receiver, Brandon Marshall. However, it was tipped into the air by the Cincinnati defensive back and it went about 20 feet, straight into the open arms of another Denver player, Brandon Stokely, who turned and ran the remainder way to the end zone, an 87-yd toouchdown pass? He was so alone when he got to the goal line that he simply ran across the field without crossing the goal, so as to run off some time. There were 11 seconds left when he scored and that was the ballgame.

[BlooInBloo]

22. Nope - watched seahawks + crowd smoke the card, and the Cleveland Bradyquinns lose...

Sounds like an awesome end to the game tho - looking forward to seeing the replays.