Screw Budweiser (Inbev), Molson and Sam Adams...DRINK LOCAL BEER!

[maseman]

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/why-every-cold-beer-costs-you-more.aspx

Read this article. Fuck these assholes. Budweiser sucks anyway. Can't believe 13 people can make $73 million from drinking pee water. Molson is OK but not that great. Some Sam Adams is good but I won't be having another. I travel for a living and never have any trouble finding a good local beer wherever I am.

[Old and In the Way]

1. I already do, gladly.

Nothing against Sam Adams, but my microbrewery has some fantastic brews that cost less and keep the money local. I can tell you that my brewer is really concerned with the price of hops....he thinks that there may be some market manipulation going on. Given the current market players, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[TxRider]

34. Exactly, who in their right mind would drink bud anyway..

Not big beer drinker here though anyway..

When I do I pick up a Chimay Ale at the gas station on the way home.

[Interloper]

2. Brew Pubs

A growler from the local brew pub is what life is all about.

[tularetom]

3. I can see why you are pissed but

don't be so quick to write off Sam Adams (Boston Beer Co.) I see that their CEO appears to be another corporate fat cat but they are very generous in their support of the Dem party and progressive causes in general. Plus the beer is pretty good too.

[paulsby]

14. i don't give a flying fuck what party my beer company supports

i care about... wait for it... the beer.

sam adams does make some decent beers. i'd drink them even if they supported solely repubs, but it's nice to see they don't.

personally, i drink redhook ESB and local stuff mostly, but i do like sam adams.

yer average fresh brewpub beer is usually better than sam adams, but i think that;s almost always true of a beer that is fresh.

[rhett o rick]

81. I have consumed a lot of beer and Seattle's Redhook ESB has been a long time favorite.

I have left places that only served Bud, MGD, or Coors. Rather drink water.
.

[paulsby]

95. that's cool.

i have spent an hour or two (or more) :) at the redhook brewery! :)

[alfredo]

4. I drink beers from Great Lakes Brewery, Bells Brewery, and St Lewis Brewery.

[we can do it]

10. Edmund Fitzgerald Porter - YUM!

[alfredo]

13. Burning River Ale, Bells Two Hearted Ale, and Schlafly APA- I like Hops,

but will spring for a good Milk or Oatmeal Stout.

[GillesDeleuze]

50. lake louie kiss the lips IPA is good, as well as Central Waters n/t

[Rebubula]

57. Edmund Fitzgerald...

...Mmmmm...That stuff goes down good during a storm!



:evilgrin:

[alfredo]

82. Their Conway Irish Ale is pretty good too. Commodore Perry is good

[nemo137]

16. Try Three Floyds, out of Munster, IN

Delicious! One of my all-time favorite beers is from there (the Robert the Bruce Scotch Ale). They also do a one-day release/mini-beer fest for their Dark Lord Russian Imperial Stout. It's a good time.

Also, speaking of Missouri beers, have you tried Boulevard, out of Kansas City? Their Smokestack series is always interesting. I had a one of those on Election Night instead of Champagne.

[alfredo]

18. I can't get Three Floyds or Boulevard here in Central Ky. I've heard good

things about Three Floyds. Stone out of San Diego is good too.

[nemo137]

71. I've had good luck asking traveling friends to pick things up.

Also, my old hometown is about 2 hours from the legendary New Glarus brewery, so it's convenient for my buddies and I to go stock up. You could also try the beeadvocate.com boards. I'm pretty sure they have one for trading.

[alfredo]

84. Bells Oberon is my wife's favorite beer. It's a summer wheat ale.

[izzybeans]

37. Dark Horse is another great Michigan brewery.

[alfredo]

40. Here's something about them on beer advocate.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1471 A- is a very good score on this site.

[izzybeans]

41. Their Double Crooked Tree is one of my favorite Imperials.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1471/22381

[alfredo]

85. How does it stack up to Bells Two Hearted Ale?

[izzybeans]

99. Way hoppier. It's more comparable to Hopslam.

[alfredo]

101. Your Avatar looks like he had his first taste of Hopslam.

BTW, Hopslam is 10% alcohol. Powerful stuff.

[GillesDeleuze]

51. crooked tree is great

dark horse and new holland are some of my fav MI beers

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Yuengling!

http://www.yuengling.com/">Yuengling! Local! :applause:

[tabbycat31]

8. +1

great beer

[BornBlue]

79. My Favorite!!!

but I can't get where I am at...stupid Illinois.

I spent a weekend in PA for work and fell in love with it. I crave it almost daily. I was lucky enough to get a 12 pack from some friends that went out there a couple months ago. I think it made the cravings worse though.

You are so lucky!
:toast:

[NightWatcher]

92. local yes, but they busted up the union illegally

THE DISPUTE: The Teamsters say the owner of D.G. Yuengling & Son threatened to close the brewery unless workers decertified the union. Yuengling says its employees got rid of the union on their own.
THE RULING: The National Labor Relations Board sided with the brewery, saying it found no evidence that Dick Yuengling Jr. pressured employees to leave the Teamsters.
THE BOYCOTT: The Teamsters, backed by the Philadelphia council of the AFL-CIO, wants members to boycott Yuengling products. But so far, the boycott appears to have fallen flat.
http://unionreview.com/ap-article-teamsters-foaming-over-ejection-yuengling

[Initech]

93. I hate that we cannot get Yuengling on the west coast!!!!

[ZombieHorde]

6. I love Newcastle Brown Ale, I know it is not local, but I don't care. nt

[backscatter712]

7. New Belgium, Odell, Boulder Beer, Left Hand...

You can't come to Colorado and say there's no decent beer - there's lots of awesome brews here! And Coors & Budweiser don't count!

[GillesDeleuze]

49. anything Fort Collins

also,

any DU'ers wanna hook up their BA handles?

[fizzgig]

60. plus oskar blues, flying dog and fort collins brewery

but it kind of irritates me that fat tire is the beer we're most known for. there are much better beers that come out of the fort.

[backscatter712]

64. I've been drinking a lot of Easy Street and 90 Shilling lately.

Fat Tire's a decent ale, but the thing I love about the microbrew industry is the variety. If you stick to the big breweries, all you get are dishwatery lagers. With microbrews, you get red ales, brown ales, pale ales, IPAs, stouts, porters, wheat beers, fruit beers, kolsches, and yes, lagers that are much better than factory beer.

[fizzgig]

67. easy street is one of my default beers

but i find fat tire to be undrinkable. have you every had anything from fort collins brewery? they have a fantastic red ale and a pomegranate wheat, which are probably my two favorite local beers.

[backscatter712]

70. I like their chocolate stout!

Another fine brewery!

[Speck Tater]

9. Fat Tire. nt

[mdmc]

111. FAT TIRE

and Odul's 90 shilling

[mindwalker_i]

11. Brew your own

I make mead, which is really good and I never really liked beer too much, but making it yourself is a lot of fun. From what I hear, beer has more steps, but it should still be fun.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

22. +1...........

Brewing your own is more fun and the beer is SO much better.

[mac56]

32. +2

me too

[rhett o rick]

12. The Pacific Northwest has some of the best beer in the world. nt

[Initech]

29. Damn straight!

I really want to go to Portland sometime and do a brewery tour.

[rhett o rick]

42. Washington the state also has excellent breweries. One of my favorites is Silver City Brewery in

Silverdale, WA. Whoop Pass Double IPA at 9% is one of the great seasonal beers there.

[wolfgangmo]

72. Fred's Ale from Portland.

Comes in a Champaign bottle and comes in at a whopping 12%.

Woof.

[rhett o rick]

77. sounds like a barley wine. I spend some time in Portland but never heard of Fred's. Where is the

brewery located?

[BlooInBloo]

35. ...

http://www.elysianbrewing.com/

[rhett o rick]

45. Is there something we might agree on bloo? I have been to the elysian brewery

as well as Pyramid, Pike, Maritime in Ballard and Hales. I used to go to the Thomas Kemper brewery Octoberfest in Poulsbo, WA until they were bought out by Pyramid. Thomas Kemper was one of the Pacific Northwest's first micro-breweries.

[Romulox]

38. You can get quality craft brews anywhere nowadays. PNW isn't special. nt

[izzybeans]

39. Very true.

Some of the best breweries in the world are in small towns throughout the country.

[rhett o rick]

46. au contrary. When it comes to micro-brews, the PNW is very special. Have you been here? nt

[Romulox]

48. I lived in Seattle for a time. Still get there once every year or two.

The beer is good, but nothing special. Michigan produced brews are easily as good or better. A LOT of the brewpubs downtown Seattle are mediocre tourist traps.

[fujiyama]

91. Did you have a chance to check out Portland?

I was a bit disappointed (in terms of the beer) in the quick trip I took to Seattle. Portland is definitely better. What I liked best in Portland was almost every bar had their own IPA or Stout on tap.

MI has a lot of great brews and Bells and Great Lakes are among the best out there, but it pisses me off that many bars out here don't carry them. It's almost always the usual macro-crap. I'm lucky if I even find a bar that has an IPA on tap. The state needs to do a better job encouraging places to sell the craft beers brewed here in this state. They're really good and I don't think they're getting the marketing and exposure they should be. The brew-fest in Ypsilanti was a lot of fun and showcased many of them. I agree that many could compete with the stuff in the PNW.

[GillesDeleuze]

53. I'll put up any WI microbrew against the whole region! CHEERS!

[classysassy]

15. Those Chi beers of yesteryear

Fox Head 400,Fox DeLuxe,Pilsens,and so many more.

[ConsAreLiars]

17. For those of us in the Republic of Cascadia, we have scores to choose from, but I want to

single out one for a special mention -- Fish Tale Organic Ales: http://www.fishbrewing.com/fish-tale-ales/

My preference is always India Pale Ales, whatever the brewery, but having the label organic added to a good brew deserves special attention.

Another is Full Sail IPA (and other brews) which is produced by an employee owned operation - http://www.fullsailbrewing.com/default.cfm

On accepting a Green Award - http://www.fullsailbrewing.com/PR%20Best%20Green%20Company%20Award.pdf
“It is truly an honor to be named one of the top green businesses in Oregon, a state that is known for being on the forefront of sustainability. For us, this sense of responsibility has been part of our core principals since we first started brewing beer over 21 years ago. Over the years we have been committed to being stewards of the environment and have remained dedicated to operating our brewery in the most responsible manner possible. As an employee owned company we share this award with our all employees who are a key part of our daily commitment to these practices. Open communication and suggestions from employees have contributed greatly to the success of managing and maintaining a socially and environmentally fair business,” said Irene Firmat, Full Sail’s Founder and CEO.

[TorchTheWitch]

19. I don't drink any kind of beer

it all tastes like shit.

[Rebubula]

58. Well

....thanks for stopping by and looking like a tool.

[TorchTheWitch]

102. it's the beer praisers looking like tools

I don't come to a political forum to read stupid shit straight out of a frat house. "Yeah, BEER!" pfffttt... :eyes:

[GillesDeleuze]

107. perhaps the book FERMENTING REVOLUTION would change your

childish perspective.

[SidDithers]

20. La Fin du Monde, out of Unibroue in Quebec...

'Course, it 9% alcohol, so you Americans might want to go easy. I know how you're all used to drinking beer-that's-almost-water.
(I kid, I kid! :))

Sid

[drbtg1]

25. Always have a couple of bottles of that in my fridge.

Good stuff, though it is too strong for some.

The name is just too funny!

[wolfgangmo]

74. So you know the riddle that goes...

Why is American beer like sex in a canoe?


... wait for it...








... it's fucking too close to water.






Badabing.

[Maru Kitteh]

21. Our beer is made just 19 blocks from our house!

[hughee99]

23. Really, this is what puts you over the top?

Sam Adams sold $404 million dollars worth of beer last year, and the CEO made 2.75 million dollars. Do you also boycott movies, tv shows, music and books where the artists make a lot? Beer is a non-essential product in a market with plenty of alternatives, it's not like getting gouged on gasoline where all the companies are f'ing you for a product you NEED, if a beer company manages to make a larger profit in a down economy, why shouldn't they make a little more. These guys are making a lot less than many CEO's whose companies LOST money.

[Renew Deal]

24. I like to buy my Sam Adams at Whole Foods

And I plan to continue doing that.

[Ian David]

88. Come on... NOT at WholeFoods. WholeFoods is a fascist-run corporation. n/t

[TheCoxwain]

108. Massive FAIL

Hwy (Why) would Good Librul soul like you, would ever set his foot in a 'Hole Foods' store after its CEO sold his soul to the Devil?

[MellowDem]

26. Sam Adam's...

exec doesn't seem to be going TOO crazy. His pay went up 28% to 2.75 million or so? I mean, that doesn't seem too crazy compared to those other companies. And I do love me some Sam Adams. The other beer companies can suck it though.

[Last Stand]

106. Agreed. Don't clump Sam Adams in with these Corporate Whores.

I know people who work for them. They are treated VERY well. The founder is available and accessible to the employees and will tailor-make jobs for people to suit their strengths. They make a good product and shouldn't be penalized by their success by being compared to the beer Nazi's.

[TheCoxwain]

109. I am waiting for their OktoberFest to come out...

[Viking12]

27. Buy Local, Drink Yokel

[Initech]

28. There's a really excellent local brewery where I live. It's called "Bootleggers".

They make a beer called Black Phoenix and it's easily one of my favorite beers ever. They even sell t-shirts that say "drink local". :toast:

[KansDem]

30. American businesses don't want competition...they want cartels...

Of course, this price wrangling is made easier because just three beer companies -- Anheuser-Busch, MillerCoors and Pabst Brewing -- control 95% of the U.S. beer market.

I always laugh when I hear a "capitalist" talk about competition "keeping prices low and quality high." What they really want is "no competition for higher prices and shabby products." Witness the current health-care debate.

Pathetic liars and deniers...

[wolfgangmo]

75. There is no difference between american corporatism and communism.

Imagine what the US would have been like if IBM had purchased all of the companies in the US and what you would end up with would be Stalinist USSR.

[rucky]

97. The workers don't own the means of production under corporatism.

[negativenihil]

31. I will continue to enjoy Sam Adams

as my baseline beer at home, along with Long Trail and such. All the while enjoying the beer at my beloved Cambridge Brewing Company.

sorry, i just can't get pissed with Sam Adams over this.

[Brickbat]

33. *Shrug* Molson's union-made, and that's important to me. For as much beer that we drink, it fits in

that common Venn-diagram space among the three circles of taste, price and union-made. Sometimes I'll splurge on something local, but Molson is like our table wine.

[GillesDeleuze]

54. union made, on the can.

[Brickbat]

68. Yup. Total love.

In my house, we look for the union label.

[izzybeans]

36. Craft beer is one of our country's best kept secrets.

We have wonderful breweries all over the country. New ones are opening every year.

K and R.

"The US brewery count of 1,525 on July 31, 2009 is the highest total in 100 years. (2008 total includes breweries that closed during the year, and the July 2009 count is higher than at any time in 2008.)"
http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/about-us/mission-and-history

http://www.supportyourlocalbrewery.org/

[rhett o rick]

78. I have "tested" beers in most west European countries and IMHO beers of Oregon

and Washington are the best. I admit I haven't been to Belgium, which is supposed to have great beer. And I haven't visited all the US states.

[Blue_In_AK]

43. I'm not a beer drinker

but if you ever visit up here, try the locally brewed beer at the Moose's Tooth pizza. My beer-drinking friends and relatives tell me it's some of the best they've ever tasted. My husband also likes Alaskan Amber.

[Confusious]

62. Whoop!

I would drink local, but the brewer here sucks. So I get Alaska Amber in AZ.

[Blue_In_AK]

76. That's so cool they sell it down there.

:)

[LynneSin]

44. When Dogfish Brewery is your local beer - that's what you drink

Best beer out there and it comes from Rehobeth, Delaware

[GillesDeleuze]

69. so f'ing lucky.

dogfish beers are in a class of their own. molecular archeology is the coolest!

[fujiyama]

90. Good stuff

I think they sell them here at Trader Joes and select liquor stores.

[rucky]

98. That's one of the best.

And I say this as a former Oregonian.

[izzybeans]

100. +1

For sure. Lucky.

[we can do it]

104. My Favorite! I Need To Visit More Often

though Great Lakes Is good stuff- I really love dogfish- Chicory Stout and Punkin and the IPAs

[Initech]

110. I got kicked out of the Dogfish booth at GABF last year for getting too many samples.

:rofl:

[politicallore]

47. No, Screw you... Sam Adams is Local

at least to me...

[GillesDeleuze]

52. and they are very helpful in local brew promotion

such as the American Craft Beer Fest. they basically helped BA throw a big party to celebrate how much better their competitors are than them

[Initech]

94. Yes and for that they rule.

[Ian David]

87. Fuck yeah. n/t

[XemaSab]

55. Sierra is my local brewery

:)

[GillesDeleuze]

56. have you had their 'estate' ale?

im very curious to try it

[XemaSab]

63. I have had it

Like everything else Sierra produces, it's delicious. :9

[GillesDeleuze]

65. good, i wanted to make sure

since its about 9.99 a bomber...

[Rebubula]

59. Best Beer

Utica Club and National Bohemian.

You do not get more local (other than microbrew restaurants) than those two.

[fizzgig]

61. i almost always do

there are three breweries and two brew pubs in my city (budweiser is too, but they don't count), so i have no problem finding good, local beer. however, i do enjoy a stella artois (inbev) from time to time.

[GrilledCheeses]

66. BBC Bourbon Barrel Stout. nt

[Czar One]

73. Old Milwaukee!

It's cheap, too!

[BabbaTam]

80. Redhook stuff

I used to drink the Redhook ESB, then they sold out to some big company and it lost its livelyness. Years later they started making a beer called 'Long Hammer' and I like it a lot. The little brewery in Blanco Texas makes several good brews. I like the Full Moon Rye Ale. My girlfriend tells me that's the sustainable choice. (close to the house you know)

[Deja Q]

83. WHy drink it at all? Saves on all those DUIs...

[GillesDeleuze]

105. because beer is delicious

and biking drunk is a lot of fun!






ass.

[Ian David]

86. For me, Sam Adams *is* a local beer. n/t

[fujiyama]

89. $2.75M actually isn't that outrageous for a CEO of a major company

I'm not necessarily saying it's justified, but considering there are health insurance and banking executives making over $30-50M, well it's just hard to care about ~$3M.

Plus, Sam Adams has some really good brews. Their premium White Imperial and Russian Imperial Stouts were great. I bought them recently for a camping trip and was really impressed. They're kind of expensive though.

Personally I prefer microbrews, but Sam Adams aren't bad. I agree with a few others about the Pacific Northwest and microbreweries. Wow, what a variety. And many good ones. But there are some here in MI that are great. Microbreweries are definitely better than the mass marketed stuff and I've never understood why it's elitist to have decent taste in beer, especially when you're supporting local small companies!

[alfredo]

96. Two good sites to read about beers Beer Advocate and Rate Beer.

http://ratebeer.com/

http://beeradvocate.com/

Both have free registration. I use Beer Advocate the most.


For you hard liquor fans Straight Bourbon

http://www.straightbourbon.com/

As you can tell, it is about Kentucky's finest.

[mindfulNJ]

103. Sam Adams is local for me

It's in the Jamaica Plains section of Boston and they brew some damn good beer IMO. You want to punish them because they're successful?