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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:24 AM
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Will Holder’s ‘Reckoning’ on Detainee Abuse Fall Flat?
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 05:32 AM by WillieW
http://www.newsweek.com/id/213508?from=rss

Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to name a career prosecutor to investigate alleged CIA interrogation abuses would seem to fulfill a dramatic pledge he made last year when he was promoting the election of Barack Obama. "We owe the American people a reckoning," Holder said in a much-quoted speech that blasted the excesses of the Bush administration in its prosecution of the war on terror.

But while Holder's move in choosing John Durham to probe agency abuses has roiled the intelligence community and infuriated Republicans on Capitol Hill, it is far from clear that such a "reckoning" will ever come. The investigation Holder has directed Durham to conduct is sharply circumscribed. It won't involve the conduct of senior Bush officials who approved waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation" techniques. In a statement Monday, Holder said it won't endanger any CIA operatives who relied "in good faith" on controversial Justice Department memos that gave . . . con't
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:25 AM
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1. Nice propaganda subject line
Your subject line is past tense.

Title of article is future tense.

:eyes:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:31 AM
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3. Past tense seems appropriate here.
The choices have been made and the outcome is fairly predictable.

(Of course, we all could be surprised and vindicated. I certainly hope so. But it doesn't look too hopeful at this stage.)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:45 AM
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9. Wrong
All investigatins can lead to further investigations. Prosecutors go where the evidence leads them.

So asking the question in the future tense is appropriate. Asking in the past tense is not.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:20 AM
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10. Yeah, that's worked out real well
in the past investigations in this country, hasn't it?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:29 PM
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11. Well, let's see
An investigation into matters surrounding a land deal in Arkansas ended up with perjury charges on a completely unrelated incident being put forward in teh House, resulting in impeachment.

So you see how investigations can go.

The investigation hasn't even begun yet, so putting it in the past tense is ridiculous.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:55 PM
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12. Are you by any chance an attorney?
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:33 AM
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4. thank you.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:28 AM
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2. Yes!
Epic FAIL on the part of the current administration to quit half-stepping and seriously seek to deal with important issues -- INTELLIGENTLY and without obfuscation.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:39 AM
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5. I would rather trust Human Rights Watch and the ACLU's take on this.
If it is true that Holder's investigation is going to be sharply curtailed to previously reviewed cases of alleged abuse where no prosecution took place because of lack of evidence and lack of witnesses, however few there are, then it will serve as little more than a whitewashing of the last eight years.

John Ashcroft, now dead, knew that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded a whopping 183 times. He knew it and signed off on it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:42 AM
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6. John Ashcroft croaked? When?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:54 AM
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8. Wait, nm. That was somebody else I was thinking of. nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 05:44 AM
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7. Johnny Boy is very much alive
altho , of course, he is similar to a zombie.
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