Does it piss you off for some guy to say" I'm A lesbian trapped in a man's body"

[Wiley50]

or do you figure he's just an idiot?

[Bunny]

1. He's an idiot.

[Orrex]

2. If I had a dime for every time I heard a woman say "I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body..."

I'd have, um, nothing.


I'm not a lesbian (trapped or otherwise), but when I hear a guy say that, I just figure he's an ass.

[ShortnFiery]

5. But it's SAD if he's trying to be "cute and endearing" and just needs to get out more.

:shrug:

[iris27]

62. Well, now you have ten cents.

I'm a gay man 'trapped' in a woman's body. I'd say I'm about on the Eddie Izzard level of seriousness there (Brit comedian who crossdresses and calls himself a "male tomboy"). Just with the genders flipped. Of course, mine is a little off-kilter because I like girls too...but still. I don't identify with straight women even the tiniest bit.

[Orrex]

71. Every little bit helps!

However, I interpreted the OP to be referring specifically to straight men describing their own heterosexuality by making a sardonic joke about lesbians.

When the phrase is an accurate description of one's identity, I think that the tone, intent, and impact of the statement are very different.


:hi:

[eShirl]

3. Not if he actually means it.

If he's saying as a joke, he's an idiot.

[ShortnFiery]

7. I would hope that a person, so disposed, would have a better way of communicating such sentiment?

IMO

[eShirl]

8. One might hope so, yes.

[ShortnFiery]

13. True, we can't discount the exception that proves the rule.

;) :hi:

[Joe Bacon]

4. Did Kanye West go off his rocker and say that too?

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

6. he is an idiot. guys say stupid thing, thinkin so cool, and woman rolls eyes and

says

idiot

i have to figure they are doing it for their fellow man, to feel manly, amongst the men, and really has nothing to do with impressing woman.

[Louisiana1976]

23. Agreed--it's just plain ignorant of him.

[bananas]

9. Does it piss you off for some girl to say" I'm A lesbian trapped in a man's body"

or do you figure she's just an idiot?

[eShirl]

10. Doesn't piss me off

but if people make fun of her, I figure they're probably just ignorant.

[seabeyond]

11. if she is in a mans body he is not a she.... so i figure you an idiot for saying a girls in mans

body

[eShirl]

12. .

[iris27]

63. Thank you.

The complete lack of even a glimmer of awareness on trans issue shown by some posters around here is appalling. The ignorance, it burns...

[seabeyond]

74. for you

because it is a serious issue

this comment, a lesbian in man body, is made at expense of lesbian and transgender by a stupid male that thinks it cute.

on transgender issues, you are right. i dont have a lot of knowledge or experience and stay out of discussion and dont have opinion because of my ignorance.

on issues of males being assholes, i have a lot of first hand knowledge and experience.

[bananas]

16. If she's in a mans body she is still a she

[seabeyond]

29. if this comment is serious. but i dont think it is. so why play it is. nt

[Toasterlad]

30. I Suggest You Familiarize Yourself With the Concept of Gender Identity

before you post on such threads in the future.

[seabeyond]

33. and is this what the majority of posters are taking from this thread?

that it is a male truly saying that he is male in female body.... yet a lesbian female.

of course i am famaliar with gender identity. i dont believe this is what this op is about nor the thread.

though

i guess we can all pretend otherwise.

[Toasterlad]

34. You Should Probably Just Apologize For Your Error and Move On Instead Of Digging a Hole.

What the OP is or is not about is irrelevant to what you said. You said "if she is in a mans body he is not a she".

If a person self-identifies as a woman, she is to be considered a "she", no matter what biological sex she is. Whether or not YOU believe the hypothetical person in the OP identifies as female is irrelevant. Your statement was false.

[DevonRex]

44. Absolutely false. nt

[TransitJohn]

14. As long as he's not trapped in my body

it's all good. :evilgrin: :hide:

[TxRider]

15. Getting pissed off is a choice you make

Other people don't do it to you, you decide to choose that reaction yourself.

I don't choose to get angry at most idiots..

[bananas]

17. There are two simple truths.

1) Guys are idiots.
2) Women love us anyway.

[seabeyond]

26. Guys are idiots.... why woud a guy promote this about his gender and not be offended. nt

[slackmaster]

18. False dilemma

It doesn't piss me off, and I figure the guy is just a little immature.

[Vinnie From Indy]

19. Depends

If the person is a transexual or is struggling with their sexual identity, then the answer would be no. If it is some idiot in a bar trying to be cute, then I would just think the person is a jackass.

[foo_bar]

20. I think Eddie Izzard gets a pass

He dismisses claims that he is a male homosexual, saying he is either a straight transvestite or a "male lesbian." He has also described himself as "a lesbian trapped in a man's body,"<9> transgender,<10> and "a complete boy plus half a girl."<11>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard

[truebrit71]

38. Yes he does...Eddie ROCKS!!!

.

[iris27]

64. "Male tomboy" is another one of his. n/t

[Mudoria]

21. No

[Liberal In Texas]

22. No.

No more than any lame really old joke, which this is.

[Obamanaut]

24. No

and no

[daedalus_dude]

25. Since I learned here that transgendering and homosexuality have zero to do with each other. No.

edit: actually I remember someone on this board telling about getting a sex change operation from male to female and being a lesbian post-op.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

27. How pissed off would you be if your son came to you and told this to you seriously?

[AlienGirl]

39. You mean if one of my sons came out as trans and lesbian? Not at all.

If one of 'em said this as a stupid joke I might be a bit annoyed, though--they know better.

They are 13 and 11.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. My son has and he's 18. I'm giving him some time to sit on acting on it and

it's been a while since he's brought it up. His girlfriend is a lesbian and I think that he loves her so much he might be a bit confused.

[AlienGirl]

60. Gender is complicated for some people. Have you heard of the identity called "Genderqueer"?

[Rebubula]

28. OK...

....I will bite....WHY would it piss you off?

This is one of the oldest one line-stupid jokes out there.

But...as another poster said - it is your choice to get pissed off. Too many people get pissed off about too many insignificant shit these days.

[Neecy]

31. I'm a lesbian and no, it doesn't piss me off

I don't go through life angry.

[Brickbat]

32. Both. I think it's bullshit. When I hear a guy say that, I assume he's trying to make it sound

like he's a sensitive guy. He's comparing himself to a woman! He LOVES women! Oh, and lesbians too. Because they're hawt.

I mean, WTF does it even mean?

[TorchTheWitch]

67. it means he wants to get into your pants

and yet another idiotic line from a vast arsenal that ensures he won't.

[WI_DEM]

35. No, should it? What do I care if someone says that.

[TexasObserver]

36. Just be glad he stopped wearing the "Moustache Rides $5" T shirt

It's nature's way of labeling the men that are really not good breeding stock, so women don't get impregnated by them.

[redqueen]

40. lol

[pitohui]

37. uh no, why would it? altho to be honest don't think i've ever heard any man say that

as a woman i'm well aware what society thinks of women -- at the end of the day, we are considered inferior and get inferior chances, it takes a HELL of a lot for a man to want to be a woman

i know 3 people who had sex change from male to female, only one of them (the one i know the least well) continued to have sex with women after her transition

one of them, i honestly don't even know if, either in a male body or a female body, if she had ever had sex with another woman -- i'm not aware of it if she did, she had a long term relationship before/after the transition with the same guy

the other lady considered herself bi pre-op but i feel like her preference was always sex with men, post-op she no longer has sex with women, although she's still (distant) friends with her ex-wife and mother of her children

i guess what i'm saying is, you know yourself what you feel like so who am i to contradict if you try to share your feelings?

[BuyingThyme]

41. Only if I'm in the ten-items-or-less line.

[Taverner]

42. Its a joke that was funny the first time...

The thousandth time, not so much so...

[bigwillq]

43. No.

Why the hell would it? :shrug:

[DevonRex]

45. You should learn something about transgender issues before spouting off. nt

[Fumesucker]

46. I think I may know why some men might say this..

Woman-on-woman porn is very popular with a lot of hetero men, a lot of guys are not really comfortable with seeing another man's erect penis, particularly of the John Holmes variety you see in a lot of porn.

With the woman-on-woman porn the guy can fantasize about being either partner without feeling "icky"..

No, I don't think gay male sex is "icky" but a lot of hetero guys do, even guys who do not wish to oppress gay men.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. It makes me glad to live on a planet where people have nothing bigger to worry about.

Or, maybe that's just this thread.

[blogslut]

48. An old idiot

Guys used to use that one on me in the 80's. I thought it was stupid then but not nearly as creepy as the other oft-used line:

"Did you see 9½ Weeks?"

~shudder~

[Pangolin2]

50. A guy said that to me once...I answered "Really? Me too, let's fuck"

(I'm a gay man but he didn't know that when he said it...he did about 3 double takes)
:rofl:

[Tim01]

51. LMAO, priceless. nt

[seabeyond]

53. bah hahahahha. thanks. funny. good for you, at the least. nt

[iris27]

66. hahahaha...awesome

:)

[KamaAina]

52. I once said "I'm a man trapped in a man's body"

while defending a clinic in New Orleans years ago, no less.

The other defenders (all female) laughed.

[seabeyond]

54. now that one is cute. and we would all say, cute. the other, idiot. lol. which

would a guy prefer, cute or idiot.

[donheld]

55. No it does not

Not if they're serious.

[Hekate]

56. It sounds like the world's lamest pick-up line. I'd move across the room. nt

[Sapphocrat]

57. Oldest dumbasss line in the book.

Right up there with:

"Can I watch?"

and

"Can I join in?"

Only fucking asshole pieces of homophobic shit use that line.

[Gwendolyn]

58. Not when Eddie Izzard says it.

When other people say it, it's akin to "if I were a woman, I'd be fondling my breasts all day long."

It makes you go BWAHAHAHA and then :eyes:

[Kat45]

59. A gay friend used to tell me I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body

That was back in my f* buddy days. :rofl:

[marshall]

61. It depends on what he's talking about

He could mean he likes relating to women in the way he perceives women relating to each other, but he's also sexually interested in them.

[johnaries]

65. No, because I am a Lesbian trapped in a man's body.

I can't really give a "coherent" argument right now. Because I am so pissed off on a visceral level.

I won't kill you now.

But I will kind a way to slide my "stilleto" blade quietly between the proper vertebrae (hummm, such I kill or just disable him for life and let his agony continue the rest of his life?) and I will have my revenge.

[Douglas Carpenter]

68. there was actually a now banned poster her on DU who apparently had a sex change and did claim that

They did not claim that here on DU, as far as I know. They claimed it on their own personal website.

They were banned for other reasons that had nothing to do with their peculiar sexual identity issues.

[iris27]

69. If he's serious, it wouldn't piss me off in the slightest.

If he's trying to be cute/funny/use it as a pickup line, he earns my immediate scorn and withering disapproval.

[daedalus_dude]

70. I'm not a lesbian in a man's body. I'm a regular man.

But if someone says something like that I really think that it sometimes means this person fantasizes about being a woman.

[cherish44]

72. It's an old joke that needs to be retired

Another one that drove me crazy is the joke that Heather Mills (Paul McCartney's ex and an amputee) "doesn't have a leg to stand on" during their divorce. I swear I heard that "oh so clever quip" at least a million times and it was in pretty bad taste.

[Canuckistanian]

73. I would say, "Wow, is your dick THAT small?"

I can't stand jerks like that.