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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:20 AM Original message |
Single payer was always dead in the water. Get over it. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. So if you cannot trust a government to remotely consider single-payer as a viable solution... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No, but you can trust them to create a public option I can opt into. nt |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Maybe. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. So you have evidence that a majority of voters are against single payer? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Straw man. I did not say a majority. I said a signficant number. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. A significant number or a loud minority? I respect the rights of the minority and all . . . |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. "by making them uneconomic"--I agree on both points. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Not a strawman. I noted your words and asked for clarification. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. It's not a single fixed group |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. It is a media invented astroturf 'group' that has no political clout |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No, it sadly isn't. Check the polls. nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. Huh, how about that, you are now blocked. Go figure? nt |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. huh??? |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. I prefer to think it is just a few years down the road |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Agreed. PO is the camel's nose in the tent. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The public option is the public option |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. No. Keep pushing for it, anyway... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Agreed -- it's a bargaining position -- or SHOULD HAVE been nt |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Good bargaining position for now, and inevitable goal for later. n/t |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
19. Get over it yourself. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Look upthread, you may be misinterpreting my position |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Where we differ is that I don't believe PO will evolve into SP |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
21. You are terribly and unfortunately - absolutely correct. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. How nice. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. The majority of people and physicians are in favor of a national |
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