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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:07 AM
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Poll question: Should 9/11 be turned into a national holiday?
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 11:08 AM by Cant trust em
This is a poll going around on Facebook.

Please post your rationale.

Thanks.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:08 AM
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1. My initial thought is no.
I'd hate to see this day turned into another excuse to have a BBQ and take a quick weekend trip.

We shouldn't be "celebrating" national tragedies.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:09 AM
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2. ... or treason and mass murder
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:12 AM
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9. Assuming you irrationally believe MIHOP/LIHOP, which many people don't
But of course that's another reason it shouldn't be made into a national holiday.

Bryant
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:21 AM
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21. "Many" don't believe the OCT, either.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:29 AM
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29. Why call it "irrational?"
There must be some way to explain:
Neo-cons wanting a war with Iraq during the Clinton years (Clinton said "no")
Bush ignoring the August 6 PDB
Bush and White House staff taking Cipro on 9/11/01
Bush sitting a doing nothing while 3,000 Americans are murdered
Bush flying Osama's relatives out of the US without their having been questioned and while all commercial air flights were canceled
Bush invading Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia
Bush not finding the WMDs he swore Saddam had
Bush closing all American bases in Saudi Arabia (what Osama wanted) and opening bases in Iraq
Bush letting Osama go at Tora Bora
...etc.

Not to mention:
The decades-old relationship between the Bush Family and the Bin Laden Family

We have a lot of mis- and under-informed folks in America: That's why 54% want the government out of Medicare and 10% either don't know or aren't sure Hawaii is a state.

Being ignorant doesn't make one "rational"
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:31 AM
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31. Imagine - PNAC holiday themed Hallmark cards!
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:38 AM
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33. I'm not ignorent - i have looked at both sides of the argument
and MIHOP is unconvincing; I admit irrational might be a bit nasty, but since MIHOPers happily dismiss anybody who doesn't believe in their fantasy as a Bush puppet, I think I'm ok with that.

Bryant
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:08 PM
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49. I dismiss anyone who dismisses anyone else...
I dismiss the Bush administration too. They are liars.

I don't specifically believe anything, except that what we were told is surely mostly lies. There really is no sense in dissecting the minutiae.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:17 PM
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50. So if someone came up and said "The moon is made of green cheese"
and another person said "No it's not" you would dismiss the latter?

Bryant
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:30 PM
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52. Nice try... you fail...
I'm speaking in terms of the 9/11 myths.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:06 PM
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48. Don't forget Sibel Edmonds' latest revelations...
Including the claim that OBL and Al Qaeda were in contact with our government up to and including 9/10/01.

And let's not forget that the Bush administration has told little in the way of truth.

I don't believe any specifics, but I do believe we were lied to about this.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:14 AM
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12. The idea of retailers having 9-11 Sales! would curdle the blood
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 11:15 AM by havocmom
but, considering all aspects of how that tragedy was used to sell an agenda, such advertising might have an element of truth.

No holiday for 9-11. We don't celebrate tragedy and we would have to deal with idiots trying to move it to a Monday so there would be one more three day weekend to aid capitalism.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:17 AM
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17. But...but...what about "September 11 sales blitzes!"
I can see it now: "Hurry on down to CrapMart and take advantage of the huge savings this September 11!"

The marketing possibilities are quite numerous!
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:10 AM
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3. Dec 7 is not a national holiday, so why Sep 11?
Answer: No good reason.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:14 AM
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14. My first thought exactly.
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revolution breeze Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:34 PM
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38. My great uncle
was killed at Pearl Harbor. Proclaiming a day a "holiday" will not encourage people to reflect on the significance of the day, just give corporate America another day to have a Sale!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:56 PM
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40. That was my first thought, as well.
It was a national tragedy, not something to be celebrated.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:11 AM
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4. No.
It's a day of reflection and mourning, not celebration.

Really, it's a day of embarrassment and massive amounts of ball-dropping, but that's another forum.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:11 AM
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5. In the USA presumably.
What would they call it "Boxcutter Day" :sarcasm:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:11 AM
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6. Why not the Little Big Horn or Tet?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:11 AM
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7. What do you want to call it? Shock and Awe Day? nt
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:12 AM
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8. I voted no. We don`t "celebrate" December 7, nor should we "celebrate" Sep.11.
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:13 AM
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10. Yup.
Bring on the 9/11 BBQs and greeting cards already.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:13 AM
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11. Merge a 9/11 and 8/29 holiday together. Call it LIHOP Day. n/t
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:14 AM
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13. we lost 2,500 or so at Pearl Harbor - and no declared holiday
I vote no
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:16 AM
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15. Do we celebrate December 12-7? n/t
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:17 AM
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16. We have days to morn the dead...
Sitting up a holiday to commemorate the single greatest failure in US History just doesn't sound right.

I mean, what would we do.

(1) Require national readings of My Pet Goat while wearing jingoistic, banana stuffed flight suits?
(2) Hold a national lie off, with the greatest liar being give the George W. Bush of "Trutiness!"
(3) Perhaps we would hold Cheney shooting contests where we all get shitfaced and shoot our friends in the face.
(4) To commemorate the moment when each plane struck a tower, the Pentagon, or the ground we set of nuclear air bursts.

This is just a monumentally bad idea.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:17 AM
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18. BTW
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:17 AM
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19. How about January 21 instead
my Mother's birthday . . . and

we rid outselves of that last administration - that group of heathens
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:18 AM
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20. No.
Sept. 11 is a day of mourning and doesn't need to be turned into a holiday for people to have a "final summer luau" of cookouts, beer, and corporations trying to make a buck off of holiday sales.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:22 AM
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22. No (nt)
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:23 AM
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23. Like other "national holidays", this date will be converted into another
day off from work, a barbecue, shopping at the malls, and getting stuck in traffic. Plus it would be another national holiday within a week of Labor Day.

Making a commemorative date a holiday doesn't instill reverence by that act alone.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:23 AM
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24. Was Pearl Harbor?
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:25 AM
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25. Does a rape victim celebrate her/his rape date?
If we do anything about 911...how about we get to the bottom of it?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:26 AM
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26. +1
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:27 AM
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27. Not an occasion to celebrate
I'd rather see Election Day made a holiday.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:27 AM
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28. 12/13 should be a national holiday.
The day that the President, during who's watch 9/11 was on, stole an election.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:30 AM
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30. Why celebrate boosh's failure to keep this country safe?
Now the day boosh goes to jail for his crimes... that I'll celebrate!
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:35 AM
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32. as of right now not yet
And several people don't even know what happened that day. I asked my cousin (who was less than 2 weeks old when 9/11 happened) if she knew what major event in history happened right after she was born, and she did not know. Both her and her older sister (9) do not know who Osama Bin Laden is.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:38 AM
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34. Is December 7th? No.... so the answer is no....

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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:43 AM
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35. I voted no but I guess I'd need to know how they define holiday
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 11:48 AM by Mike Daniels
If they mean a day off of work, government offices closed etc., then I'd say "no". To the best of my knowledge Pearl Harbor Day comes and goes without any of those trappings.

Of course, to the best of my knowledge I'm not sure that Pearl Harbor Day is considered a "holiday" per se.

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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:18 PM
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36. I think the Day of Service is appropriate...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:30 PM
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37. comical ...
this should freak out the Repugs ...

yet another day off for federal / government employees ...

:rofl:
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:39 PM
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39. Only if Republicans agree to immediately vote for...
Medicare for all.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:59 PM
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41. No
In the grand scheme of things, 3000 people dead is not a huge deal. Why don't we have a holiday for car accident victims? Or cancer patients? I'm sure they're more numerous.

Nothing else about the event warrants holiday status. Even 12/7 isn't a holiday. I am not aware of any holidays that are based on a nation being attacked. I'm sure there are one or two, but they are most likely stupid and should not exist.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:06 PM
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42. "Up to 60% Off at Macy's ONE-DAY 9-11 Sale!"
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:08 PM by Nikki Stone1
I don't think so.

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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:08 PM
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43. To be honest, no.
But if it was a holiday, it should be renamed National Remembrance Day. Not just for 9/11 but for all victims of terrorism against the American people, foreign and domestic.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:11 PM
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44. No. It would soon have commercialized "9/11 Holiday Sales" in retail stores
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:12 PM by lunatica
Just like every other holiday. You would be unpatriotic if you didn't go out and buy something to throw money down the mall maws.
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:55 PM
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45. The answer is no. We don't celebrate colossal errors committed by idiot presidents
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:58 PM
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46. It will, just like December 7th
something that will be remembered...

And it should, for the same reasons.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:00 PM
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47. I'm told the Pearl Harbor memorials died down after a few years...
I certainly feel it's time for the 9/11 memorials to follow suit.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:19 PM
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51. NO, the neo-cons would exploit it to start more Middle East wars.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:43 PM
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53. Yes, we should remember 11 september 1973 and the thousands of Chileans who died...
... as a direct result of US government involvement in the military coup d'état of general Pinochet.
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