Sen Nelson: "I didn't feel this way a week ago, but I feel very optimistic that we'll get more than

[kpete]

Bonus Quote of the Day

"I didn't feel this way a week ago, but I feel very optimistic that we'll get more than 60 votes."

-- Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), quoted by CBS News, on the health care reform effort.

the rest:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/09/15/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/14/politics/main5311400.shtml

[DrDan]

1. well yeah . . . since most major provisions have now been stripped

[tridim]

4. Bills are amended before they are voted on.

I know that doesn't fit your constant pessimism meme, but it's just the way things work.

[DrDan]

5. thank you for the personal comment

it is comforting to know there are those who feel worthy of sitting in judgement of the posts of others in full contribution here

[tridim]

6. I just spoke the truth. Sorry if it stings.

[DrDan]

8. no sting at all - I just consider the source

[Ruby the Liberal]

2. 60 votes for what though...

[Javaman]

9. pay raises. nt

[voteearlyvoteoften]

3. Oh really?

Oh really Bill? You mean the bill that has been approved by your campaign contributers?
Where have you been and what are you fighting for? We will get the bones, and the insurance companies will get the meat.
Unacceptable. Closing the donut hole in Part D is not enough. WTF has happened to public option or single payer?
We the people deserve better. Can't wait to see the final bill you will consider voting for. Hope it's not crap.

[ddeclue]

7. For a crappy republican plan - thanks a LOT Bill... I think I might run against you in 2012

to give Floridians a liberal alternative.

:argh:

[yurbud]

10. they can get 60 votes or a good bill, not both.

[BzaDem]

11. Wrong. A good bill requires 60 votes. Reconciliation would strip out huge provisions of the bill.

Any public option that could pass the House would get zapped out of reconciliation in the Senate due to procedural rules. So would insurance regulations (pre-existing conditions, etc.) One of the only things that could survive would be subsidies for private health insurance and taxes to pay for them.

[yurbud]

12. how was it that the GOP could whip through every fascist piece of shit bill when they were in

charge?

I can't believe the Democrats are such cowards that they need the cover of republicans voting with them.

[IRemember]

13. Don't even acknowledge BzaDem. It doesn't know what the hell it is talking about.

As many sources have already indicated, there a ways to go about reconciliation that could result in significant reform passing. :hi:

[BzaDem]

14. Welcome to DU!

:rofl:

[BzaDem]

15. They had to make their signature initiative (1.6 trillion dollar tax cuts) expire after 10 years

in order to get through the procedural hurdles of reconciliation. And they are going to expire.

Due to rules that Democrats changed years ago, we would have to have a negotiated-rates public option expire after 5 years. Right now, no public option proposed starts earlier than 4 years from now. That means it would live for 1 year.

If we could get 60 votes, none of this would matter.

[yurbud]

16. Why not just change those rules?

[LiberalAndProud]

17. Would they use reconciliation to change the rules?

Or do you think we could get 60 votes to do that? Besides, it sounds like a really bad idea to me. When crazy folks like * get into office again, it would be a disaster.