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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:31 PM
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Mr. Gates, wars are major news and they deserve unsanitized coverage
The Invisible Wars (posted with permission from http://sane-ramblings.blogspot.com )

In America, war is invisible. We see no men, women and children blown to bits. We hear no cries from their families, we see no burials, nor feel any of their pain or loss.

We see no one rushed to the hospital, bleeding profusely from the latest bombing or shooting. We see no hospitals short of staff because most medical professionals have fled their nation.

We don't even see the dead or wounded U.S. soldiers nor see their devastated families. It's censored by the U.S. military and all of these people are invisible, never to be seen or heard from by the rest of us, as we go on with our lives as if these war weren't happening.

Recently, Defense Secretary Gates said in trying to censor a picture of a dying U.S. soldier that as a matter of "decency," it should not be shown. Well Mr. Gates, wars are major news and they deserve unsanitized coverage.

World War ll, and the Korean and Vietnam Wars were fully covered and widely shown to the American people so they could understand what was happening. "Decency" is not putting these soldiers in harm's way in the first place!

But we see no pictures of Iraq's or Afghanistan's war torn cities. In Baghdad, for example, we don't see a city filled with two story cement fire walls, a city filled with military checkpoints where the people live in lock down, imprisoned in their own nation.

Instead, we're told "things are getting better in Iraq" if we're told anything, as that war has disappeared from the news. In Afghanistan, the war is being ramped up for numerous fierce battles to come but we don't see it.

As with Iraq, it goes unquestioned by most major U.S. news media. We don't even know how many mercenary soldiers the U.S. now employs but it is a massive number.

As in Iraq, we don't even know why that war is being fought. Perhaps this eight year old war is just revenge for 9/11 in which all Afghans must pay. There are no stated objectives, time frames, means of measuring "progress" or any plans to leave. It's no wonder U.S. allies want no part of this war.

As for the monetary costs of these wars, there are no limitations. The U.S. has endless funds to throw into weapons and wars but apparently is cost constrained when it comes to providing medical care for all of its people, cost constrained when it comes to its schools and its hospitals and its bridges and roads.

After World War ll, many Germans claimed they didn't know about the concentration camps nor many of the other horrific actions taken by the Nazis. Their claims had no credibility.

Today, with the Internet we can overcome U.S. military censorship. No one can claim they don't know what's going on other than by willful ignorance. And to be apathetic is to abandon your brothers and sisters at a time when they need you most.

Many people say there is nothing they can do. But they say that without even trying to do something! Your voice matters, so raise it. Get involved with others who are trying to stop these wars. Take to the streets. Do a candlelight vigil, pressure the media but do something!

The world will later condemn the U.S. for the Hell it caused as it bankrupted itself morally and financially. But you will know and your family and friends will know that during this dark period of insanity, a time when so many others were silent, you had the courage and the compassion to try to stop it!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:37 PM
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1. While I agree that there
needs to be more coverage of the wars, I'm not sure showing the death of a soldier against the wishes of the family is the right thing to do.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:39 PM
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2. What about the deaths that we have caused?
Do you think those should be shown?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:14 PM
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8. I think we should
certainly show the destruction caused by both sides, but I draw the line at photos of single individuals whose families requested otherwise.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:48 PM
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5. If it will dissuade others from joining....
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:45 PM
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3. Let's try and stay on point - A family loses its son and a picture is taken
of his last moments of life.

The family is asked and whether or not they would mind. They request that the picture not be published.


The Secretary of Defense supports the family who has already suffered with the unbearable loss of their son.


And you are ranting because the Secretary of Defense is expressing support for a breaved family?


The press still has the right to take the picture and publish it but that isn't enough? The Secretary of Defense actually has to express support even when the bereaved family has specifically requested that the picture not be published.


If the press thinks it has some overriding importance go ahead and publish it, but they should be willing to accept any criticism that comes with it.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:53 PM
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6. "The family is asked whether or not they would mind."
I agree with you, if that's the way it works. But I was under the impression that the Pentagon does not allow any "unscripted" photos/video of the wars.

And what about Iraqi blood? Seems like we should be able to see what is being done in our name.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:58 PM
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7. In our names, and with our tax $. The world watches n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:32 PM
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9. In this case the family was asked specifically abut the photo and they requested that
the photo, which shows the face of the soldier as he dies, not be published.


The Pentagon has no authority to allow or disallow any private photo/video of the war. Even this photo, which they objected to was published.


The Pentagon had a policy that restricted the taking of pictures of caskets while they were being handled by serviceman, and they simply restricted access.


Other photos taken by serviceman, like the infamous Abu Gharib photos, become the property of the military but then private sources can petition for their release under the FOI.


The military has no authority over the publication of private photos unless they specifically violate security (disclosing secret locations of soldiers or classified buildings and operations).


Recently a single reporter for Stars and Stripes was not accepted for imbeding with a unit. Nothing prevents that reporter or cameraman from going on their own in the field and using the first ammendment to report what they see.


US media sources have decided not publish graphic images of the Iraqi children and civilian casualties, but that has nothing to do with the DOD. Those pictures are easily found on the internet and are frequently shown on Middle East news services.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:45 PM
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4. I have the compassion of another mom not to want to see a picture that most likely broke her heart.
I'm not saying censor, but have some compassion for the family who will get that knock at the door. I'm as anti-war as they come but I'll never be able to resolve the politics of war with intentionally hurting someone else.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:44 PM
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10. I like this part...
"As for the monetary costs of these wars, there are no limitations. The U.S. has endless funds to throw into weapons and wars but apparently is cost constrained when it comes to providing medical care for all of its people, cost constrained when it comes to its schools and its hospitals and its bridges and roads."
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:50 PM
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11. Once the family said no that should have been the end of it...
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