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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:30 PM Original message |
Philadelphia to close all free public libraries. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. that's staggering. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
210. +1 |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. + 2 |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. ok... now I know this Republic is dying |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. How many immigrant families and their children used those libraries to help educate themselves? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
95. Access to Education is THE Pillar of a Democracy |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. The rich and powerful do NOT want a strong democracy. That's the LAST thing they want. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #96 |
249. And most intellectuals are quite happy to play along. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #96 |
307. for the higher ups an uneducated citizenry are easier to control |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
269. The Republic is not dying... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. In other news: Benjamin Franklin sits up, climbs out of his casket and begins walking back to Boston |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I was going to say that sound you hear is Ben spinning in his grave. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Ol' Ben is red-lining the marble tachometer. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I was thinking the same. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Yes and while we're at it he also founded the first public hospital to treat the poor in PA in 1751 |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. and Post Office too, eh? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
124. And the Patent Office....n/t |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #124 |
137. Good one! |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #137 |
231. Apparently where the conservatoids want us to be now. |
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Tuvok Obama (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
245. No. It was a members-only subscription library |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
166. In other news: Canada build wall on souther border. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #166 |
192. omg - too true |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
264. Nahh they couldn't export all that sweet BC bud then... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Oh shit. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. The dumb just got dumber. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. Just got done talking to a Philadelphia librarian. |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
93. Tend To Agree |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
101. The list of all the services that will be cut off does make it seem like a game of one upsmanship |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. Libraries are Obsolete |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Spoken like a truly out of touch clueless RICH guy... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Do you actually use libraries? |
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DoctorMyEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. They already DO |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I used to work for the PL where I live (one of the best in the country). Our IT department |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Hi, blonde! |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. THANK YOU! EXACTLY! |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
115. Which means, of course, they'll be shutting THAT down, too! |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
164. Yup |
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svpadgham (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #164 |
199. What happens when the power goes out? |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #164 |
211. It will be called the ministry of Information. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #164 |
285. I agree with you, Nederland |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #164 |
286. It'll be soooooo much fun, standing and "reading" a book from a terminal! |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
209. He means SOLELY, without all the other services |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
59. News bulletin: the government does this-- |
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DKRC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
86. They do - they're in the middle of the library |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
92. Libraries also have programs for kids, teens, teens at risk. They host book clubs, free films |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
135. Good points. Libraries foster a sense of community. |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
270. yes, families can save money by checking out DVD's also at the library |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
97. They're already available. In libraries. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
206. They do moron. You get one hour a day at my library |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
222. sure, Not |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
257. So these free computers of yours will be given to every citizen or 1 per family? Do people get to |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
274. Actually, your knowledge of what libraries are is obsolete |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
64. Can't afford a computer... |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:44 PM Original message |
I use books from the public library daily in my classroom. |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I use books from the public library daily in my classroom. |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I use books from the public library daily in my classroom. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Really? You really think it's a better idea to have people sitting at public computers.... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yup |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. But I'm assuming you would provide IT support for those computers, no? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Where, when, and how are people taught on what to look for regarding phishing and other sites? |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. Yes. People have no clue what library workers have to do. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Ex Library Assistant in collection development here. |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. There is an army of IS workers where I am now |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
230. online, not more green |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Fuck public computers, full internet access. To all materials. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I agree with you, but think it's premature. Besides, Philly isn't closing the libraries.. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Costing too much to run |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
87. they're closing them because the ASSHOLES in Harrisburg are playing games |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
118. I knew there had to be more to it |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
173. it doesn't cost too much... |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
225. The "books are piling up" argument |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
120. Some of us still like to read books. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
215. I like to read books. And I like to use a computer. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #120 |
298. I would be so heartbroken if my library closed. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
136. Spoken like the true Libertarian you are |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #136 |
175. Libertairians - correct me if I'm wrong... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
150. NOT!!!!!!! |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
174. re:Public computers are a much more intelligent solution. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
226. repeat |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
266. It's inevitable... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. really...? libraries are obsolete ? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Like buggywhips in 1899... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. dream on.. |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Yeah I love to curl up with my computer and maybe |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. It's just a matter of providing the right form factor, and proper resolution |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
98. Have you ever actually READ a book, just out of satisfaction? nt |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. Absolutely |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #108 |
165. I obviously disagree but it may have something to do with my sense of |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #165 |
288. Some people feel the same way about chalk dust |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
221. A library is free. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #221 |
289. A library is free |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #289 |
292. Actually a Library is not free. They lend out. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #292 |
316. Heh. My Master's Thesis is forever locked in a floppy disk. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #316 |
320. Yep, the externalities are rarely ever analysed. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #292 |
327. Interesting example with the library in Alexandria |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #108 |
236. no |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #236 |
290. Well, someday |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #290 |
294. But will it work in 100% Humidty or in Sub Zero temperatures? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #294 |
296. It's just a matter of durability |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #296 |
321. No, it's because 40 million Americans are functionally illiterate. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #321 |
325. Your photography examples seem stunningly lame |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #290 |
300. customerserviceguy |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #300 |
326. I won't have to come back |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #236 |
293. I agree with that. As we age, the screens get tinier when they should get bigger |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #293 |
297. That's because the early adopters of most technology |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #297 |
322. Books work well. Magnifiers on 21 inch screens are over kill. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #322 |
323. Perhaps I am a minority |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
130. And nothing beats soaking in a hot bubble bath... |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
219. My 1909 Block Plane still functions without electricty, and I use it all the time. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #219 |
254. I wish I could rec this reply... |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #254 |
278. Nah, too many typos... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Ummm....the books aren't free online. Two of the greatest things about a free public anything |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Publishers charge crazy fees for someone just redownloading a book to the same Kindle.. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
224. It's the GM model of Autos for Everyone while Destroying Mass Transit |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. THAT is the very reason there will always be libraries or the need for them. n/t |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. We're still fiddling with the economics of delivering entertainment |
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svpadgham (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
207. On those computers |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #207 |
331. If you think that libraries |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
227. The Trees are GMO -- They deserve to die. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #227 |
334. Perhaps so |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #72 |
301. not so, computer guy |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #301 |
335. You're right, I'm not familiar with them |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
100. Some people think poor means buying the smaller size coffee at Starbucks. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
238. newspaper |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Fascinating prospect... |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
302. Deja Q |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Hey, thanks for reminding me |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Damn... I have four! |
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TeeYiYi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
185. I have four dvd's due back soon... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Libraries are not obsolete |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
176. There are things that books cannot do. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #176 |
308. And they can't be yanked back out at a whim |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. The one near me (suburbs) is packed all the time |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. No, sitting in front of a computer screen jumping from page to page |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Try actually VISITING one before your make such a staggeringly |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
208. I do |
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DoctorMyEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. What?!?! |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. And a hundred years ago |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
148. there's a big difference between having the skill to play & sing & having |
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MgtPA (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Exactly. One does not replace the other. My daughter loves her Wii, despite having 8 years of piano |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #151 |
329. I'm glad that your daughter does both |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #148 |
328. I certainly won't argue that |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #73 |
303. customerserviceguy again |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #303 |
330. No argument there |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #49 |
177. I agree but if you want to count on the US and access to high speed. |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Wrong |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. You're right |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #74 |
145. And libraries will adapt, and so will library workers |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #74 |
178. Wow - could you be more condescendiing. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
237. Funny, I've been hearing |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. Egads, don't you know books are...are...are romantic??!! |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
94. I Like Both |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. And I do the same while swinging from hyperlink to hyperlink |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
63. What a really ignorant post. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. How the fuck did you get off "ignore"??? Ignorant Asshole. nt |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
75. So is it "obsolete" to do historical research without paying bucks to do so?... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. You probably aren't around the elderly much. They need to be informed too! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. My 80 year old grandmother learned to use a computer... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
112. It was my 73 year old mother |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #112 |
125. I think there are many older people that are right with us, but not all of them... |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
127. I've tought older persons to use computers |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #127 |
155. And perhaps in a generation or two, this barrier won't be as big as it is today... |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #76 |
152. Why would you suggest that older people are computer-handicapped? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Don't mean that at all... Some of the brightest people I know are in their 70's... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
77. CHILDREN LEARN TO LOVE TO READ |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
113. And being as books are way more durable than most electronics |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. As someone who uses Google books on a regular basis.. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. "Having a single private corporation monopolize access to information is just a bad idea." |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
80. I think we're headed there but we're not there yet |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
83. Aound her, the library is where you find most of the free, public computers. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
84. LOL Computers and technology are not always the answer. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
234. Exactly my conclusion after 25 years in the Computer business. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #234 |
284. Hell, I haven't owned a PC laptop yet that has survived a year. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #284 |
287. Yep, It's be a long time before theycan replace the functionality of my senses |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
99. The libraries are already there! So are the books! Libraries where I live are packed! |
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PinkoDonkey (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
102. No, they are not. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
103. Idiotic. |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
104. Not every book in google reader is fully scanned. |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:16 AM Response to Reply #104 |
149. I have never seen a fully scanned book in Google |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
123. And free high speed internet access for all? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
134. Where is thinking tought? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
140. Because eledtronic medib is so much morf inexpensivf ane permcnent than old-fbshionee books! |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #140 |
240. Ehx4ct1ee! Roflcopter Lawlz! |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
153. One of the densest things I've read on DU |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
157. Our library's usage stats have been climbing steadily for the last couple years. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
159. Well, right now the library IS the place to find free public computers. Along with |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
161. Reading is obsolete. Google books is useless unless they have the particular book you need. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
162. Speaking as a medical librarian... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
163. I imagine some people may actually believe that |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
168. Here in the affluent suburbs of Philly... our library is thriving |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #168 |
179. So it's like the money has been drained from those who need it most |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
169. you don't know anything about libraries |
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mizz zen (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
187. You really believe that? Sorry, Charlie, but I happen to take out books from the library all the |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #187 |
243. Same here |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
189. i go to the library twice a week at least |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
191. True. Most everything is on the net now. |
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svpadgham (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
198. Reading a computer monitor for long periods |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
203. No, they serve a vital function that cannot be replaced with digital records. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
204. Hate to rain you your parade, but Computers are not sustainable |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
216. Ha hahaha ha. That is funny. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
223. Philistine. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #223 |
244. Damn. Now I have to go to the library to look up "Philistine" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
229. Neoliberal techno-fetishists are obsolete. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #229 |
251. Don't be so anti-science/anti-progress! Computers and technology will solve all of our problems... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
242. Reading a book on a computer screen |
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Tuvok Obama (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
247. My public library is always busy |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
248. Just went to the library last week and there was a line of people waiting to use |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
261. Oh really? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
265. And scanning one heck of a lot more books |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
268. wow! I can't believe you actually think that! |
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Shireling (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
275. HMMMMMM |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
277. With all DUE respect, you are a moron! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
281. Because computers use so little non-renewable energy, right? And because so many citizens will have |
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padumdang (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
291. Are you comfortable with a corporation having much or most of our libraries under its control? |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
305. Exactly. |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
318. Libraries are obsolete like the "paperless office" is paperless |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
319. Try sitting a 2 year old down infront of a computer to read. |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
324. Really? Last I checked books don't crash or freeze up on you |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. Incredible...Bin Laden is winning...keep our people ignorant... |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
180. I daresay you are wrong. Bin Laden is not winning. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #180 |
217. The Republicans and Bin Laden tag teamed the US |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. The repuke state Senate has been blocking |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
88. They are extorting everything they can get out of the process |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. This news is staggering....I have no words...beginning or the end? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. my greatest fear. i NEED my library. hubby cant afford all the books i read |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. I can't believe this-so sad. nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. yes.... it really is the decline of our republic... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sadly.. |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
32. That is so fucked up and wrong. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Libraries are no longer necessary. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
241. I see the rebirth of the Shaman. The Storyteller |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. What other fate could there be? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. Seems a bit theatrical. nt |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
218. Care to elaborate? Decrying the loss of libraries is such melodrama, huh? nt |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #218 |
306. When governments, especially local governments, are forced to make budget cuts... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #306 |
313. Thank you for explaining. nt |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
44. I have no idea whether this is political or not |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I grew up going to our city library twice a week. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. They are very much needed |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
89. It's due to PA's failure to pass a budget. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. (facepalm) |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
52. In a mighty blow to Socialism, no doubt...... |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. People are in denial |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
107. But we can still afford unnecessary wars |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. No, we can't. |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
181. There are still lots of republicans - |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #181 |
232. They only know how to turn money into more money... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
57. That is simply evil. An attack on public libraries is an attack on Democracy. |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Library Value Calculator |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
82. I'm sure republicans and libertarians everywhere are loving this right now...... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. Don't forget, when you talk about replacing books with computers, |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #90 |
160. Don't forget that not everybody working in a library is a librarian. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
91. Here , tell Ed Rendell what you think of this: |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
105. In their defense, I would be shocked that anyone in Philly knew how to read |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
106. Holy Fuck! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
110. Philadelphia, where public libraries started... there are no words |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. You are right. Many areas are trying to privatize fire service. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #122 |
156. That's one big reason I moved from San Diego area to Portland... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
111. Here's more, according to the Library Journal: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. So they tried last year, and closed 11 of them then. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
114. and another stealth victory for the neocons |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
119. Ben Franklin is rolling over in his grave. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #119 |
309. we could do it for him |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
121. Eh, they're just holding the libraries hostage. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. In other words it's not the death of our republic, but rather the standard bullshit. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Yes, but more low-ball than usual, I think. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
128. This is despicable |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #128 |
146. And there are lots of library services for folks who use Kindles |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
129. The ignorant religious right is winning! See? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
132. The states do get federal stimulus money. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #132 |
139. That puts a different light on things. |
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Dramarama (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
133. They need Blagojevich |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
138. To make it clear, the letter is from the library website. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
141. Wow, that is horrible. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
142. tax the fucking rich, already... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
143. A Libertarian's dream come true ... We're on our way to becoming Somalia. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
144. It's pretty sad when one posts from an official website... |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #144 |
172. Just brush it off |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #172 |
183. We have fought battles here in Florida to keep libraries open and free... |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. I'll be honest |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. Hopefully people will read it and call their politicians. |
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daedalus_dude (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
147. But the banks get bailed out. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #147 |
233. Exactly |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #147 |
310. yup, they certainly take care of their own. bastards. |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
158. This is a shame... |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
167. they don't want socialism and this is the result of their efforts - this sucks n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
170. The Mayor will be at a ribbon cutting ceremony tonight at 7:00 |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
171. what's next education, parks, what else do they want to destroy n/t |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #171 |
263. Oh, some wingnut from the public spoke at the last city council meeting here |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
182. There are no words |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
184. That sucks! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
190. And, they still can't shut off Blackwater/Xe contracts. That's directly related to this. |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
193. Now that's truly, deeply unpatriotic. We cannot let free libraries disappear. No! |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
194. someone will figure out a way to turn 'em into Borders Bookstores and make a buck on it |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
195. OMG |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
196. ironic isn't it? |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
197. The political reality is that the pukes in the state legislature always stick it to Phila |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #197 |
239. That about sums up the whole sad story. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
200. Linda Lingle in Hawaii is doing this as well. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
201. Just another Brick in the Wall |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
202. This is devastating. I grew up in libraries. My family could not afford books. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
205. Bush's plans for the Christo-fascist state are working out nicely.... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
213. We lose our libraries, we might as well all just surrender to RW'ers. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #213 |
311. never surrender. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
214. Thanks, Mad. nt |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
220. Very sad |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
228. A city without libraries is like a TV that only gets Fox. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
235. Who needs firemen? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
246. I can't imagine this will actually happen |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
250. Oh, come on - if you're going to do something, do it right. |
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
252. Why surprised?? What better way to create more stupid republicans!!! EOM |
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mant_a_tangi (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
253. Beside the good arguments already made... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
255. I have some relatives that work for the state of PA... |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
256. It seems like this is but one part of a 5 year plan |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
258. This is the kind of loss |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
259. Oh well looks like a boost for Faux Snooze. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
260. Well, at least, it doesn't affect the wealthy and that's all who matter, after all. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
262. Libraries are socialism!! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
267. Stunning news indeed |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
271. The Libertarians win again. Be gone, thou socialist libraries! |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
272. If it's that bad in Philly, then closing City Hall would probably be more cost effective. n/t |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
273. Philadelphia's Republicans must be overjoyed. They can't wait for |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
276. We're experiencing similar problems with our area public libraries, many of which closed |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #276 |
282. I taught English. I know it from the belly of the beast. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #282 |
295. This area in Maryland is one of the most liberal/progressive areas in the country. |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
279. The beginning of the end |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
280. One might think a billionaire somewhere might lend a hand, but I guess that person is over-taxed. |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
283. The Times We Live In |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
299. this is an example |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
304. Why is this surprising? The internet has virtually killed all |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
312. kicking this thread |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
314. That is unbelievable. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
315. In FL we have been fighting this for years....they were cutting funding again this year. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
317. Oprah and other mega wealthy people need to step in here. nt |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
332. State Legislature has agreed to Philly's budget. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #332 |
333. LIBRARIES WLL REMAIN OPEN |
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