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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:54 PM
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Teabaggers, guns, implied violence and the first Black president.
I was just thinking of the implications of what would happen if someone acted on the calls to violence by Fox and these other teabaggers. What if one of these assholes attending an Obama event with an AR15 slung on his shoulder really managed to get off a few shots as POTUS left the building? Not only would it be a horrible crime and a subversion of the Constitution, but the implications for this country would be unthinkable. We would have announced to the world, to our children and to the ethnic minorities of this country that only a white man can be president. And if that paradigm is subverted even if it is in accordance with Constitutional law, violence is justified to protect white supremacy.

We would be seen--rightly so--as an empire of shit. We would have no moral credibility in the world or even at home. We would be the new apartheid South Africa, the new Nazi Germany.

I don't know what to do about it, but we cannot allow even the remotest chance of that to happen.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:57 PM
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1. We have gone far beyond the "remotest chance" that it will happen.
We are dancing along the razor's edge of total likelihood.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:20 PM
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17. I've actually been quite surprised.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 09:21 PM by TxRider
I haven't heard any of the racism I expected to from many right wingers I know. And I don't believe they harbor any.

I know some family and friends I don't see very often are going to let it out for me as soon as I see them though. Of course that's why I don't see them very often.

It may not be driving most of what's going on, but there is some hard core mean as hell racism out there don't ever doubt it for a second. The kind that might get you beaten for saying you support Obama.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:57 PM
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2. Haters & racist don't care
what anybody thinks. :evilfrown:
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM
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3. That would be a crime.
They've tried to assassinate several presidents.

Two in the last 40 years.

Welcome to politics. Can we go back to the issues?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:11 PM
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5. Are you suggesting this is not a real cause for concern...
...or are you saying the fear-mongers should STFU with their conspiracies so we can get back to issues?

I know this matter has been addressed before. Still, I suddenly realized what the true implication would be if the first Black president was also the first one murdered since 1963. I would be a crime as it would be for anyone. But it would also end any pretense we have of being a just, civilized nation. There is already a perception in the minds of a lot of people that the only reason anyone thinks it is okay to be as crude and disruptive as they have been to the point of calling POTUS a liar in an address to Congress is because his race makes him less legitimate as president.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:30 PM
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10. Has anybody tried...
...to shoot the President? I'm too experienced to get worked up over emotional rhetoric, I've heard it all too many times before.

From what I've heard, the Secret Service can't investigate all the threats they've received over the years. There are too damn many.

Our President has the best protection that can be had. The only people who can get close to him are carefully screened or insiders.

The events he goes to are Democratic events and those are carefully vetted.

I give it a 0.0000001% chance, but there's no such thing as Impossible. Life isn't safe, it never has been.

80% of the people here will end up working for the big multi-national corporations in a few years and that will be as far as it ever goes.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:34 PM
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13. "80% of the people here will end up working for the big ...
...multi-national corporations in a few years and that will be as far as it ever goes."

Huh? You seem to be suggesting that people here now are all in school and don't yet work for a living. I actually work for the state and am in the office right now. I'm taking a quick break as I am trying to finish a project.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:48 PM
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14. Trick Question: What do you do?
Or maybe not.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:49 PM
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15. I prosecute major felonies. nt
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:07 PM
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16. OK, then...
After Vietnam and the draft ended, the quest for justice was put on hold for a few decades.

Those big, vastly rich corporations got their money from the private sector, Democrats as well as Republicans, although huge government contracts do tend to tip the scale, while making the lucky recipients more conservative.

That's how it was done, work, save, invest, buy three houses and then sell two and retire early.

It pretty hard to get the people out of their cubicles once the bacon starts showing up.

I find it odd that it's the Laz-E-Boy generation that's skipping meals to protest these days.

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kilo729 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:08 PM
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4. Seriously?
He never would've been able to shoulder his rifle. His head was in the cross-hairs of several secret-servicemen, no doubt about that.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:12 PM
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6. I'm assuming that is true.
I've seen the Secret Service snipers on the building roof-tops when I saw Pres. Clinton in 1996.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:22 PM
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7. If the SS is so invincible how do explain
the assassination of JFK and RFK and almost RWR? I saw a sign at the teabaggers wank-off that said "We are coming Unarmed this Time"
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:25 PM
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8. Yeah. I'm sure the agency learns with experience...
...but they're not perfect.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:30 PM
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9. Ron Paul, seriously? Just for you:


Welcome to DU! Enjoy your stay!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:31 PM
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11. Maybe he wants one with devil horns or in a straight jacket.
:shrug:

Didn't notice that before.
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Rude Dog Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:05 PM
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19. Considering that he lives up to it?
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:33 PM
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12. I'm surprised they haven't already
The SS must be some pretty busy people about now.
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