ACORN Debunking needed.

[bbinacan]

Are these documents real and if so, what consequence to ACORN?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11320897/ACORN-Illegally-Operating-in-Maryland

I received this in an email from my winger brother-inlaw.

[tekisui]

1. God, who the hell cares?

Seriously, there is no sense in debating a winger. You won't change them. ACORN is their current target, they hate them with the heat of a thousand suns. So what? They will move on from ACORN to something else. I don't dignify them by giving a response.

[Barack_America]

2. Yup. nt

[bbinacan]

5. If these docs are real

couldn't it cause ACORN more trouble?

[kelly1mm]

8. The significance is that if they are not/were not in good standing

they cannot initiate lawsuits in MD state courts.

[TxRider]

3. From my understanding it is legit

What's more concerning to me is this, pardon me if it's old news I was just confronted with it a couple of days ago.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=11079244

Dunno quite what to make of it.

The repubs are seriously going after ACORN

[bbinacan]

4. That doesn't look good

for ACORN.

[TxRider]

11. What power does that comittee have though?

It looks like it's headed by repubs, that report is only a month as far as I can tell.

[kelly1mm]

6. That is the format of the Maryland Department of Assessments

and Taxation's Certificate of Standing. I have no idea if it is valid. It is accessible online though through SDAT's website. The significance is that if they are not/were not in good standing they cannot initiate lawsuits in MD courts.

[bbinacan]

7. That's what I thought. n/t

[ddeclue]

9. The ACTUAL place to look is :

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/CharterSearch_f.aspx

As someone who has done a lot of this sort of reseach for political purposes here in Florida at sunbiz.org, it is hardly ever so "cut and dried" as that.

Corporations and businesses lapse all the time and get replaced by other corporations that take their place with different names. The fact that there are old lapsed businesses listed that are appear to belong to ACORN doesn't necessarily mean anything at all.

That said, the document you showed the link to doesn't look legit to my eye in that it fails to cite the business license number in question or the actual addresses or corporate officers of the business in question by name. Of course, I'm neither an attorney nor am I from Maryland.

Doug D.

[bbinacan]

10. Thanks for the link

and you make a valid point about a name change.

[kelly1mm]

12. This is definitely true - different business names and such. In fact,

on their face these are certificates saying that ACORN (AR) and ACORN (LA) did not renew their business filings (about $300 per year) ACORN in Maryland could be a separate entity established directly in MD or operating off another ACORN corporate filing. All this is on the SDAT website linked above.