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Tue Sep-15-09 09:14 PM
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Jimmy Carter had it right in the 70s and now |
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Unfortunately, for our country, those who actually care about the middle class, fairness, and morality are buried by those with more money/power. They will do anything to maintain their lifestyles/incomes.
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ixion
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 PM
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1. Carter is the last president I have any respect for. |
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the rest of them are garbage.
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:48 PM
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2. I wouldn't call Clinton and Obama garbage |
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Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 09:48 PM by Taverner
Maybe you would but I wouldn't
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ixion
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Wed Sep-16-09 05:36 AM
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6. Clinton continued (and expanded the so-called 'war' on drugs); Obama continues that and |
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the so-called 'war' on terror as well. Both of these 'wars' have done endless amounts of damage to our society.
Sorry, they both score very low in my book.
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Wed Sep-16-09 09:17 AM
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10. Yes but you have to see things in perspective |
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Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:17 AM by Taverner
I don't like the war on drugs anymore than you do - - but without perspective everyone's a bad guy
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Wed Sep-16-09 09:29 AM
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11. my perspective is their actions, and the real result thereof |
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Wed Sep-16-09 04:14 AM
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3. I was a 9 year old boy when carter lost the 1980 election |
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I remember feeling violated on that day WOW you have to trust those gut feelings!!Just imagine if he and President Gore would have won (but Gore did win:( )
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Wed Sep-16-09 05:59 AM
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7. exactly... I feel Carter, who was leading up to the last days, was screwed out of his re-election by |
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a false attack of 'he's weak' and Ray-Gun isn't and the BS hostage ordeal that Ray-gun was ready to take advantage of, and did. I don't think they haven't been willing to do anything to get in power, sometimes they know they're had and they have to 'lose'. B*sh saying in the summer of 2000, that he guaranteeeeeed they'd win Florida just reeks of theft, hell, his own dad is rumored to have been involved greatly in two events that got presidents shot at.
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Wed Sep-16-09 07:05 AM
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8. And the reason that President Carter didn't win |
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mostly was because to the lies and bullshit put out by the group that has since grown to be the very un-American repuklicon party. Ted who I have grown to have a tremendous amount of respect for also helped in that lose. That and Chappaquiddick about caused me to never pay any attention to Ted for years. Which is in a way a good indication of the kind of man I am, in other words I gave Sen. Kennedy another look and grew to love the man.
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Wed Sep-16-09 05:20 AM
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4. The 70's Were A Whole Different World... |
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I look back now on that decade as one of the best in so many ways...especially compared to what happened in the 80's. While no nirvana, there was a far greater public awareness about fairness and equal opportunity. While you had right wing nuts, they were forced to argue issues on the merit, not the fear or stereotypes. If anything, those old stereotypes had been shattered through the hard work of the civil rights movements (not just racial but Woman's Lib and even Gay Rights).
This country still had a robust middle class and an economic base that was still growing. 1978, statistics show is the start of the downward trend as the standard of living starting to outpace earnings...a cycle that led to massive borrowing and opened the doors to decades of fiscal abuse on so many levels. Unions were smashed, one income had to become two to meet rising costs and "deregulation" let the foxes into the henhouse.
Look back on the regulations in place then compared to the 90's and today...and you'll see a lot of people were right about what happens when capitalism goes unregulated and society gets greedy.
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Wed Sep-16-09 05:22 AM
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For his statements today.
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Wed Sep-16-09 08:09 AM
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9. Sadly the "selfishness is a virtue" crowd put in Reagan including a lot of democrats |
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who let the worst part of their personality make their decision in the voting booth.
Carter was almost too nice and too smart for the US and that says a lot about our nation.
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Wed Sep-16-09 10:18 AM
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12. K&R. Jimmy has integrity, something the others just pretend to. |
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Wed Sep-16-09 10:26 AM
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13. Pres. Carter calls it like he sees it. And he usually sees it as it is. |
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Including Israel (from both perspectives), the Iraq war, (both), Wilson, Clinton. He even severed his long time ties with the Southern Baptist because of their racist and sexist stances. He was right on target about our policies concerning energy and dependence on oil.
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Wed Sep-16-09 10:30 AM
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14. Exactly! Jimmy Carter had "solar panels" installed on the WH in the late 70s BUT |
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Saint Reagan had them torn down as soon as he scored the Presidency.
Can you IMAGINE how far we would have come with regard to "Energy Independence" IF we had listened to President Jimmy Carter and stayed on The Eco Path? :wow:
Jimmy Carter, a true American Patriot :patriot:
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