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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:25 PM
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Fox news, RW talk radio and the rest of the RW media have declared war

against progressives.. and we sit on our hands and take it.. we lose Van Jones.. we allow ACORN to be decimated.. We allow Joe Wilson to get away with northing more than a hand slap.. Where are OUR fighters!! All we seem to do is roll over and whine.. I am SICK of it..
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:27 PM
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1. I say let them have all the rope they want to hang themselves
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:34 PM
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9. We've already given them so much rope we'll never be able to get them off the ground
It's time for us to yank back on the rope.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:27 PM
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20. The "give 'em rope" theory didn't work in the Weimar Republic.
Hitler was a figure of ridicule before he seized power in the Weimar Republic. The Nazis were great fun to mock.

Whoops.

P.S. Stalin also was a "backwoods" (a.k.a. "redneck" e.g. "Sarah Palin type") figure of ridicule.

But go ahead & give rope. I won't be around this failed nation when the Neocons regain power and use the rope to wring your heads off.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 PM
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2. Ya wanna win the war
pass HCR that actually works.

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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 PM
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3. You and me both
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 PM by maxpower
I am tired of the spineless cowards. We have control of three branches of government, yet we still capitulate ever chance we get.



Peace,
Max


Edited for grammatical error
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 PM
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4. Historically, we wait until pushed up against the wall.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 PM
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5. I have argued for some time that the "Democrats are wimps" meme needs to go.
Yet, it seems our "leaders" are intent to live up to the stereotype nine times out of ten.

It's depressing.

:dem:

-Laelth
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 PM
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6. Van Jones was a loon and ACORN is really not worth defending. But Joe Wilson needs to be destroyed.
The GOP needs to learn to respect the left.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:30 PM
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7. We're in power. It's always easier to attack those in power.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:39 PM
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11. like in 2004, during the election? that worked pretty well, the way
the M$M helped with all the leftwing attacks on Bush, didn't it?

almost all power--economic, media, governmental (even under Obama...note the extension of the USA Patriot Act, continued illegal surveillance, continued support/expansion of NCLB, etc.)--resides in the right wing

it's always been this way, with a very few brief exceptions

concentrated power remains in the hands of a few for very good reasons, and it's very rare that the situation is ever reversed, or even ameliorated for most people

what's happened to income disparity over the last forty years, for one example?
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:32 PM
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8. We are winning.
Did you notice that, they look like fools, and we helped.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:53 PM
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16. No, we're not
They have looked like fools for 20 years while turning the world's greatest nation into a toilet of hatred, intolerance, and mental illness. we have 47,000,000 people who don't have health insurance, and any mention of even minimal reform is met by shrieks of epithets from every psychopath on TV and radio. Psychotic idiots are encouraged to, and allowed to, wave assault weapons at presidential rallies. The most deranged of the wingers, like Joe Wilson, Michelle Bachmann, and James Inhofe, get elected with ease.

And we do nothing about it. Ever. Which is why is just keeps getting worse.

Read the subthread here that starts with post 80, so see how deep some on our side are in denial. They actually side with the teabaggers/terrorists! If a black man had shown up at a Bush rally with a loaded assault rifle, as one did at an Obama rally, he would have been shot dead without a word, and hate radio would have led the cheers. But with a Dem president, no one does a thing.

I think that eventually we will do the things that need to be done to get the country back (a few DUers, like T Wolf for example, realize where we're headed), but continuing to let it get worse and worse is making it more difficult.

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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:00 PM
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17. Wish I could rec this post
Seriously.

I gotta admit - I'm right up in the others' faces these days. Most people I know that are Repubicans have crawled away. They know they are going to hear some of the most mean, vile things about other people out of my mouth. Rush is Fat Boy Rush. Sister Sarah and her Stooooopid Kids. On and on and on.

Democratics in Congress and the President may be above the vitriol and vileness - but I'm not.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:37 PM
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26. Not sure
Look at all the money opposition candidates got. Sure the guy running against Bachmann didn't win, but it was close to the election.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:38 PM
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10. I think you're giving extra credit where they've accomplished next-to nothing
- Van Jones was a small-time player who I (and most here) never heard of before he quit.
- ACORN is a large organization - they're bound to have corruption. The only reason we care is because of the big deal the RW morons are making of it. Well guess what - I'm not responsible for each person that works for a progressive company. You fuck up, you're fired.
- Joe Wilson got a hand-slap because that's what Obama wanted? Why? Because he's not going to lower himself to the same level as that idiot moron redneck Congressman.

We are winning and will win the big battles. Let the trolls enjoy their small "victories".
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:51 PM
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15. absurd
-" ACORN is a large organization - they're bound to have corruption. The only reason we care is because of the big deal the RW morons are making of it. Well guess what - I'm not responsible for each person that works for a progressive company. You fuck up, you're fired."

this is ridiculous. these investigators weren't able to just test each and every ACORN employee and find out who was willing to aid child sex traffickers.

they went to the offices, asked for help, and in FOUR (so far) cases, they were presented with employees that were willing (and creative) in helping these purported child sex traffickers in evading the law, evading taxes, and of course facilitating the abuse of these youth.

that is astounding.

"bound to have corruption" doesn't come close.

it's pretty clear that there has to be a culture of corruption. these ACORN people didn't have any personal relationship with the investigators such that they knew they could trust them. that they were so confident and brazen speaks to an institutionalized corruption

just like racism or sexism can be institutionalized , so can this type of corruption. it's the same concept

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:49 PM
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19. Gee - just how are all those WAR PROFITEERING and RACKETEERING Trials & Investigations going against
Cheney and Halliburton?

Oh, that's right - THEY "LOST" FUCKING TEN BILLION DOLLARS and NOTHING has been done!!!

You're spew is Dead On Arrival...
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:41 PM
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12. What would happen if
a bunch of us strapped on M16s, wore Obama Tee shirts and exercised our own 2nd amendment rights and walked, marched around a tea party. Good thing I'm not like that.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:47 PM
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13. the only people who allowed ACORN to be decimated
were the scumbag employees of same who think nothing of helping purported child sex traffickers evade the law.

note also the irony that ACORN receives federal (iow tax) monies, and then felt free to use those monies to help others evade paying taxes.

i could cut the irony with a ladle.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:45 PM
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22. +1
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:07 AM
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23. Thank you. nt
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mariawr Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:45 AM
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24. Those tapes were edited..like Wright's were...
and the one in Cali has been proved to be a put-on. I will not believe anything from Faux Noise --because they lie. A lot.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:48 PM
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14. The civil war never ended. They just went underground.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 09:48 PM by wroberts189

But since we elected ..God forbid a black man. The cockroaches come out of the darkness.


They will be stomped and sprayed.


edited to add KNR
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:44 PM
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18. I'm LONG PAST "sick of it"...!!!
Say - about 1980 or so...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:31 PM
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21. I dunno. Our leadership sure are a group of pansies. Even when one stands
up to them like Dennis Kucinich, he has to stand alone. Our leadership should be together getting each other's back but they don't. I can only think it's because of one of two reasons. They are afraid of the RW and what they can do to them, or they are bought and paid for by corporate interests and not interested in doing what is right.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:41 PM
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28. They could be trying to get something done
The RW have time for scurrilous attacks.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:58 AM
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25. They declared war on progressives a long time ago
Where are the progressive fighters? In the minority.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:40 PM
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27. do you own a media outlet?
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