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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:13 AM
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Joe Wilson and the racist company you keep
Joe Wilson is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans


And after looking around @ their web site I found the link to the Stephen D Lee Institute and this gem:

Soon to be added will be Gettysburg and Gods and Generals Producer/Director
Ron Maxwell’s eloquent speech at Arlington National Cemetery refuting political
correctness and the attempt to pressure President Obama to not lay a wreath in the
Confederate section.

http://www.scv.org/pdf/SDLEE_Institute.pdf

*********************

Gotta stop them uppity n*****s from soiling the grounds where those "Sons of the South" rest.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:29 AM
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1. I think you may have misunderstood -
- as I read this the SCV was ENCOURAGING Obama to lay a wreath in the Confederate section. As I remember it, there was talk at the time that Obama should not lay a wreath on the Confederates. The items indicates the SCV was "refuting . . . the attempt to pressure President Obama to not lay a wreath" - indicating that they did want him to do it.

I'm familiar with the SCV and while some wish to portray them as racist I've never seen indication of such.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:24 AM
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3. Well, there may be some strange individuals in the organization
I work in Harrison, AR, a town founded after the Civil War by Union veterans (town was named for a Union soldier who laid it out). Anyway, they have a Confederate memorial on the courthouse grounds. OK, especially because they fly the Confederate flag, not the Battle Flag of Northern VA. Anyway, I walked by one day and, to my surprise, saw the inscription did not name one Confederate veteran from the area--instead it lauded the people who erected the monument, which is relatively new. To me this was downright screwy. Until I got thinking--we have a lot of KKK/neo-Nazi/hate groups around here.....
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:16 PM
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5. There are strange individuals (a nice way of putting it!) in ALL organizations -
- and I'm sure the SCV is no exception. What they do may differ somewhat from chapter to chapter. My involvement with them was for genealogical reasons, I did research so that a friend could join. The chapter he was affiliated with did community service, historical preservation, reenactments, genealogy research, etc. It was simply a heritage group and I never observed anything racist.

But I will say that a Confederate memorial in a town founded by Union veterans is rather odd, to say the least!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:21 AM
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2. This descendant of Union veterans
shakes her head. They lost. They should have lost. We need to get over this as a country.

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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:26 AM
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4. Glad I'm a son of the Union.
http://www.suvcw.org/deptnc.htm

http://www.suvcw.org/

"In 1866, Union Veterans of the Civil War organized into the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) and became a social and political force that would control the destiny of the nation for more than six decades. Membership in the veterans' organization was restricted to individuals who had served in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, or Revenue Cutter Service during the Civil War, thereby limiting the life span of the GAR. The GAR existed until 1956."
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:31 PM
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6. But the GAR lives on
They have a museum in Springfield IL, and were accepting members who could prove their descent from a Union veteran. Had an Axillary for women.
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