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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:32 PM Original message |
Something seems very suspect about the latest ACORN video. See here >>>>>> |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. More about the so called filmmaker ~ |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. More like he is a fame addict that found a niche and and organization to back him |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. He definitely seems to enjoy the spotlight. And, there certainly seems to be more to the story |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Morton Blackwell, founder of Leadership Institute, also: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Woah! |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
107. Turd Blossom attended The Leadership Institue in the past, as did O'Keefe and his former cohort |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
122. Pinochet and Buthelezi--he really knows how to pick "the good guys" |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
125. Morton Blackwell, now that's an asshole that I haven't heard from in a long time |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
91. It Has Blackwell's Sleazy Fingerprints All Over It |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. So, maybe an investigation is the best thing that could happen, if it's done in a |
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rbrnmw (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. the whole ACORN situation |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Watch the video and let me know if you think I'm crazy |
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rbrnmw (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I feel that something is not quite right with the video |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I may. I'll wait for some input |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
123. I'm extremely disapointed, but not surprised, that our "liberal" media isn't raising holy hell |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. until an unedited tape can be examined |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. . |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
121. If you look at the tape from the point of view that the guy |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. Thank you fot keeping it alive, mzmolly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Thank YOU |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. agree. the more i learn about the vids & the people behind them, the smellier it is. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Me too. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
11. Not sure that it's overdubbed |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. They're also about as believable as hooker and pimp as Bush !! was as 'president.' |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. The man is covering his mouth quite a bit |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I think they went in and indicated that they were trying to help, and twisted the truth |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
13. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. They're all heavily edited and choppy. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Indeed, Ma'am |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Most true. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
127. meanwhile congress is pulling funding because.....??????? |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
19. Repeat of bit about Tiajuana at 1:15 and at 6:50, roughly |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Agreed, I noticed that as well. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Absolutely!!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Ugh. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. You mentioned that the director of ACORN claims that these tapes were doctored. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I'm not in contact, but ... |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. In any case, |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. Start watching the tape about 2 minutes in. This is the beginning of the story |
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Krakowiak (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
109. 1:15 is still the "teaser" phase of the video... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. True, but the transcript does differ from the video. |
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Krakowiak (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
126. it's obviously edited - I agree |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. So, it's kind of like |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I don't know, is it? |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Yes, they are the exact same thing |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I disagree. There is a huge difference between claiming to help underage prostitutes |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
26. It needs to be investigated |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Exactly. |
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sonias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Agreed |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
75. "...the reality is that ACORN has thousands of employees...." ? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Well there goes the whole point then. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. 700 paid employees i bet |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
27. I can't wait till this gets a serious investigation... and not the RW M$M kind |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Right now, it appears to be a ratings grab. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. That thing has been HEAVILY edited -- |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. All of the tapes are like that and I don't recall one "journalist" saying what you just |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Well, those "journalists" are dumbfucks --- |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. BTW ~ Here is the verbatim statement in question "the girls are coming this weekend, |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Caught being illegal aliens. Community unaware of hiding from pimps. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. My take |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. You're right! To pimp is nowhere. Breaks: 2:33, 3:18, 3:43, 4:45 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That was the feeling I got as well. And given O'Keefe calls himself a |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. In the DC video, the "college kid" also claims to be helping the prostitute get away from her pimp. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. This I did not know! |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. I just watched the first video on that page. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Nice summary, |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Please look at post 19 and my response to it at 46. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. Please people, rec this thread. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. +1 |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. Come on people. Is 10 recs the best we can do on this? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. It's being unrec'd... |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That says a lot doesn't it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yep, it sure does. I wish we could see both sides as well. (nt) |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. Wait, are you implying . . . ? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. LOL |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
74. lol |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. Another thought. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I wondered as much |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
62. Great job opening up the story, mzmolly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thanks E. I think many too readily accepted the smarmy faux version of events? |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Yes indeed. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
65. A brilliant post. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. That would be the white supremacist, dominionist war criminals at Black Water. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Indeed It Would, Ma'am |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. And more |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Exactly. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. What a load of edited crap those videos are. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. ... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
76. . |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. this first video is heavily edited and sounds more like they are trying save the girls |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. He may have asked what she earns in order to determine her |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
79. Very interesting Molly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Will do Myrna. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
82. Kick. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
83. And now the poor man has lost his job. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
85. Saturday kick. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
86. To conclude that the ACORN representative was complying with this scam is INSANE. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. It is unbelievable... unless you take M$M bias into account. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. I agree. I hope this man is given a chance to tell his side of the story |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
88. mzmolly, Thank you for staying on this and providing us with more |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
89. Click the 'home' tab, that site is all about ACORN entrapment... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
90. Deleted message |
Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
92. kick for the great work done on this thread |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
93. Sad. The film makers will release the whole unedited tapes |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Congress is always right. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. How do you know what the filmmakers are going to do? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Given you have inside info, when will the full, unedited tapes be released? |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. Here is the full transcript of San Diego |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Thanks! You've assisted me greatly. Take a look at page 4 of the first transcript |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 03:01 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I would bet that the transcript posted will match the audio mp3 when posted |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. An MP3? Sorry, I want to see the unedited VIDEO tapes. |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. The unedited video will come out. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I will not hold my breath. Regardless the incident was reported to police. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Juan Carlos: "let me um understand what did you what did you wanna what do you want?" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. Update, as some DUers have speculated, Juan Vera reported the incident to his cousin. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. what about the tape of the incident at the philadelphia office, where the ACORN workers called polic |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
94. The way I interpret the first video is the Acorn guy, Juan, is getting information from these two |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
98. It seems almost certain the film maker has lied, fabricated & contrived the video. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. That's my constitutionally protected opinon |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
101. MzMolly, I just watched the video |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I agree. Hand over ALL UNEDITED tapes before assuming |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
103. PLEASE SEE MY NEW THREAD ON THIS HERE: |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
105. K&R Thanks mzmolly, I've been pissed at all the knee jerking that's been going on here too |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I did see that and gave it a rec when it was posted. I hope that more scrutiny |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. CNN just had the woman wgho says she killed her husband in one vid. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Interesting. |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
115. The only damning thing I see in these 2 videos is highly suspect editing |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Yep. |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
128. Juan contacted police after O'Keefe left. |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Kickaroo n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Thankfully the AP is reporting on this tonight! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
132. What I see is O'Keefe taking advantage of language barrier . . . |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
133. Kick. |
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