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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:01 AM
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"Identified by law enforcement official on condition of anonymity, not authorized to release name"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/danmell-ndonye-hofstra-ra_n_290484.html

"The woman was identified as Danmell Ndonye of Manhattan by a law enforcement official with firsthand knowledge who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the name."

The law enforcement official wanted to remain anonymous and not release his name, because he was violating the law by releasing the name.

These are the upstanding law enforcement officials that interviewed the woman and accepted her recantation of allegations of rape?

"It looks more like a porn movie," Victor Daly-Rivera said. "It showed just the opposite of what the allegations were. There was no tying up, there was no bruising, there was no screaming."

Oh yeah, everyone's seen THAT movie. Everything turns out fine. She WANTED it. "There was no tying up, no bruising, no screaming." How could it be rape? She agreed to this 5 on 1? So then all bets are off and whatever happens after that is just fine? What happened next?

"The woman first told police she was lured to the dormitory and raped early Sunday after her cell phone was stolen by a man she had met at a dance party, Rice said. She said she was bound with rope while the five men took turns sexually assaulting her in a men's bathroom stall."

What bound her to have five men cross her boundaries? Why invent invisible rope? it was in the MEN'S bathroom in the dorm? Was the hall co-ed? Did she live there? Whose dorm was it? Are these all freshman? Where are the dorm staff?

"A Hofstra University freshman who had claimed she was raped by five men in a dormitory bathroom changed her story after prosecutors confronted her with the revelation that a video of the encounter may have been recorded, a prosecutor said Thursday."

A video taken on a cell phone. Was it her cell phone? The one she claimed was stolen? "MAY" have been recorded?
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GodDamLiberal Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 02:53 AM
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1. You forgot to add
"Her actions and demeanor depict a very troubled young woman in need of much help," the prosecutor said.

Sounds like that poor young women may not be the only one.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 03:19 AM
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2. It seems evident that she didn't know she was filmed
and that the young men filmed the encounter without her consent. Why then are there no charges for that? I have no idea if the young woman was raped, or coerced, or is too mentally unstable to have been able to consent, or wanted this encounter, or what, but it certainly seems evident that they filmed the encounter without her consent and I'm not seeing how that is legal.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 02:46 PM
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4. So much of the matter is unknown, that's a big one. The assumptions are rampant
that she gave "consent" to something, without the assumers knowing or even considering what happened after that. Did she "consent" to whatever they all did to her? Including the alleged videotaping?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:11 AM
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3. according to this article, the video does exist & Madeline Singas, the county’s chief sex crimes
prosecutor has viewed it.


~snip~


I said, ’If there is a video, and I get that video, it’s going to show me that what you’re saying is true?’ " asked Madeline Singas, the county’s chief sex crimes prosecutor.

The 18-year-old woman sat silent for several long moments, Singas said. Then her story veered wildly and fell apart. As soon as the woman admitted she had lied, Singas rushed from the room and picked up the phone. She had only minutes to stop a detective who was headed to get a warrant signed for evidence in the case, and then to arrest a fifth man in the case.

"Once she recanted, we had to stop everything," Singas said.

At the time, prosecutors had not seen the video. However, late last night they obtained a copy, which officials said confirmed the woman’s admission that the sex was consensual. Prosecutors would not say how they obtained the video.


more:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20090918prosecutors_say_hofstra_student_fabricated_rape_charge/srvc=home&position=recent
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 02:52 PM
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5. This story is so mysterious.
"The 18-year-old woman sat silent for several long moments, Singas said. Then her story veered wildly and fell apart. As soon as the woman admitted she had lied, Singas rushed from the room and picked up the phone."

"Veered," "fell," "rushed." By all means, let's rush from the process of finding out the whole story to the telephone to prevent a signature on a warrant.

I wonder what that girl -- and those boys-- really experienced and if anyone will ever know.

Maybe one of them will come forward and say she was sodomized by one of them against her will.

Maybe one of them will claim she raped him.

Very interesting story.

And the school year's just started!


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 02:54 PM
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6. Wow. That's an important part of this story.
So, the sex crimes chief prosecutor, Madeline Singas, has seen the video and confirmed that the young woman recanted.

I read in one article that two of the young men denied any sexual activity with the woman.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 06:41 AM
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7. another interesting part
Why had none of the students living on the floor where the incident happened heard any commotion that night, when usually they can hear something as quiet as a person brushing his teeth, prosecutors asked. They wondered why the accused rapists would have taken the time to dispose of the rope the woman said they used to tie her in a bathroom stall, but left used condoms littering the bathroom floor, a law enforcement source said.

more:http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/da-hofstra-accuser-lied-about-rape-until-video-was-raised-1.1456015
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 11:01 AM
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8. I'm just glad these guys aren't still sitting in a jail cell, taking abuse from jailers.
The presumption of GUILT is the only one that applies while accused persons are being held by jailers.
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